Project Survival Truck
amazing how all the forum jackals can really scent the blood and come in here
Ford has been running IFS since 1980...or was it 1982? anyways, here we are with almost 20 years since they intro'd the TTB setup
the IFS is plenty strong for the type of vehicle the OP is wanting. 35-37" tires aren't a problem, and will allow a truck to get in/out of moderate 4x4 action without any fear of breakage.
the only reason to go with a SAS is if the truck will see nothing but hardcore duty....or just for bragging rights. You know, the cool factor if the truck is a street queen
Ford has been running IFS since 1980...or was it 1982? anyways, here we are with almost 20 years since they intro'd the TTB setup
the IFS is plenty strong for the type of vehicle the OP is wanting. 35-37" tires aren't a problem, and will allow a truck to get in/out of moderate 4x4 action without any fear of breakage.
the only reason to go with a SAS is if the truck will see nothing but hardcore duty....or just for bragging rights. You know, the cool factor if the truck is a street queen
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techart...uck/index.html
I would not take an IFS truck on anything more than a level 3 trail. You are asking for issues after that. Just for the sake of this crazy guys argument. This guy lives in SA. I live in SA. It is rocky here. Unless the guy heads south or east (both head to the coast and a bad idea if **** is hitting the fan) he is going to deal with difficult terrain. North of SA is hill country. If Crazy is not going to navigate the road system, he will be going offroad which will be level 5 and 6 stuff. He could go west for a while and be ok bu then he is going to hit rocks again when he hits west Texas.
Not to mention, SAS are generally easier to maintain and repair.
Another point is IFS will probably not hold up.
Also, thank you for your service. I could not imagine being away from my loved ones at this time of year. Thank you for everything you do for this great country.
Last edited by JackandJanet; Jan 4, 2010 at 07:43 PM. Reason: Removed pointless jab at another member.
if you cannot at least answer his questions, can y'all at least lay off the stupid stuff?
there is some wierd stuff, but the basic question was asked. please stick with that
1. I wouldn't necessarily rely on what the guys at 4WDoffroad say or do.
being deployed sucks...but at least I'm not in the Desert. name of the game I guess. only 10 yrs left now though
there is some wierd stuff, but the basic question was asked. please stick with that
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techart...uck/index.html
I would not take an IFS truck on anything more than a level 3 trail. You are asking for issues after that. Just for the sake of this crazy guys argument. This guy lives in SA. I live in SA. It is rocky here.
I would not take an IFS truck on anything more than a level 3 trail. You are asking for issues after that. Just for the sake of this crazy guys argument. This guy lives in SA. I live in SA. It is rocky here.
I've seen their handywork, and courtesy of the wife, had a subscription for 5+ yrs. They are like that show Trucks on Spike TV. Great for explaining how a nut works in theory to the auto retarded...but not so much otherwise IMO
btw, if you read the multiple stories about that Chevy, you'll see that the magazine picked that truck on purpose for it's weak IFS.
they've been playing with it for years trying to find a cost effective way to beef up the craptacular Chevy IFS of the 90's.
2. I grew up in the Hill Country (Waco, Belton/Temple, Austin).btw, if you read the multiple stories about that Chevy, you'll see that the magazine picked that truck on purpose for it's weak IFS.
they've been playing with it for years trying to find a cost effective way to beef up the craptacular Chevy IFS of the 90's.
Back before 9/11, Fort Hood used to let us camp out on the river and go 4x4 in the Tank traps...I miss that stuff. Was something I looked forward to when home on vacation. You know a truck is stuck good when it takes a track tread vehicle to unstick it. 
but yeah, a 35" tire will get you darn near anywhere you'd like to go in Central Texas. I used to play out there with plain ol' 32" A/T tires all the time...just watch out for those damn Mesquite Trees.

but yeah, a 35" tire will get you darn near anywhere you'd like to go in Central Texas. I used to play out there with plain ol' 32" A/T tires all the time...just watch out for those damn Mesquite Trees.
being deployed sucks...but at least I'm not in the Desert. name of the game I guess. only 10 yrs left now though
if you cannot at least answer his questions, can y'all at least lay off the stupid stuff?
there is some wierd stuff, but the basic question was asked. please stick with that
1. I wouldn't necessarily rely on what the guys at 4WDoffroad say or do.
being deployed sucks...but at least I'm not in the Desert. name of the game I guess. only 10 yrs left now though
there is some wierd stuff, but the basic question was asked. please stick with that
1. I wouldn't necessarily rely on what the guys at 4WDoffroad say or do.
I've seen their handywork, and courtesy of the wife, had a subscription for 5+ yrs. They are like that show Trucks on Spike TV. Great for explaining how a nut works in theory to the auto retarded...but not so much otherwise IMO
btw, if you read the multiple stories about that Chevy, you'll see that the magazine picked that truck on purpose for it's weak IFS.
they've been playing with it for years trying to find a cost effective way to beef up the craptacular Chevy IFS of the 90's.
2. I grew up in the Hill Country (Waco, Belton/Temple, Austin).btw, if you read the multiple stories about that Chevy, you'll see that the magazine picked that truck on purpose for it's weak IFS.
they've been playing with it for years trying to find a cost effective way to beef up the craptacular Chevy IFS of the 90's.
Back before 9/11, Fort Hood used to let us camp out on the river and go 4x4 in the Tank traps...I miss that stuff. Was something I looked forward to when home on vacation. You know a truck is stuck good when it takes a track tread vehicle to unstick it. 
but yeah, a 35" tire will get you darn near anywhere you'd like to go in Central Texas. I used to play out there with plain ol' 32" A/T tires all the time...just watch out for those damn Mesquite Trees.

but yeah, a 35" tire will get you darn near anywhere you'd like to go in Central Texas. I used to play out there with plain ol' 32" A/T tires all the time...just watch out for those damn Mesquite Trees.
being deployed sucks...but at least I'm not in the Desert. name of the game I guess. only 10 yrs left now though

Last edited by JackandJanet; Jan 4, 2010 at 07:45 PM. Reason: Removed pot stirring comment
If you really want to survive, make sure you have at least two firearms with you. Preferably a handgun such as a SIG or a maybe a Glock and something with range like the M1A or an AR-15.
You can build the ultimate survival vehicle but it isn't going to be able to kill animals for you or fend off other people who may want to attack you.
As far as stuff for the truck, this is what I've got on my truck and it works out great.
I've got a 2008 Limited Edition F-150 5.4L 4x4
On it I've got,
A Push Bar for the front of your truck with a winch mounted on it that is rated for at least 12,000 lbs.
Some auxiliary lighting is always good to have. On my push bar on my truck, above the winch I have two KC HiLites which since you are looking for cheap they came as a set for about 150.
I also have two removable spotlights with 250,000 candlepower. They can be wired permanently or can be mounted anywhere you want on your truck with the by the suction cup on it. They are useful because they are controlled by a wireless remote control and are able to go 370 degrees around, and 180 degrees up and down. They are also 150 a piece.
Next you may want some durable tires. Everyone here is talking about mud tires which are great. However some BF Goodwrench All Terrain Tires are what I've got and I have never had a problem. Those are very durable tires. They generally run about 250 a tire so they are kinda pricey.
Next a tool box is a must have if you are not going to get a camper shell.
In my tool box I have the following and still need more
2 Medical Kits
2 Extra large fire extinguishers
1 Shovel
2 25 foot tow straps rated for 15,000 pounds each
1 Large fire axe
1 122 piece basic tool kit
2 Pairs of jumper cables
2 Cold weather kits which contain cold weather clothing,gloves, a beanie, goggles, boots, water, water resistant sleeping bag, and some other stuff.
1 Air compressor
And other stuff I can not remember.
In the cab of my truck I've got a CB Radio which is hooked to a public address speaker behind my grill. Also make sure you get some dependable flashlights. I've got on 3 D-Cell Maglite LED. I MagCharger which is pretty much the same thing but more powerful and rechargeable so my battery can charge it. Also I've got a smaller Surefire 6LP LED light. One thing I have learned from being in law enforcement, you can NEVER have too many flashlights.
Also for everything that you have that requires alkaline batteries have extra batteries on hand. As for cell phones, you can go to Target and get one of those portable power sources that will has will instantly charge your cellphone with out needing a power source.
GPS Navigation is also something you may want to invest in. It will tell you how to get places and when you are in B.F.E it will tell you exactly where you are in the world if you need to call for help.
Also if you are planning for stuff like this it is very important to take a first aid class or one up become EMT Certified so that you can heal yourself or others if you become ill or injured.
Along with a medical class have an escape plan of where your going to take your super truck when the "zombies" come. Some survival classes would help greatly too.
I know that I have pretty much just written a book in this thread and it is extremely long, but I hope it helps.
You can build the ultimate survival vehicle but it isn't going to be able to kill animals for you or fend off other people who may want to attack you.
As far as stuff for the truck, this is what I've got on my truck and it works out great.
I've got a 2008 Limited Edition F-150 5.4L 4x4
On it I've got,
A Push Bar for the front of your truck with a winch mounted on it that is rated for at least 12,000 lbs.
Some auxiliary lighting is always good to have. On my push bar on my truck, above the winch I have two KC HiLites which since you are looking for cheap they came as a set for about 150.
I also have two removable spotlights with 250,000 candlepower. They can be wired permanently or can be mounted anywhere you want on your truck with the by the suction cup on it. They are useful because they are controlled by a wireless remote control and are able to go 370 degrees around, and 180 degrees up and down. They are also 150 a piece.
Next you may want some durable tires. Everyone here is talking about mud tires which are great. However some BF Goodwrench All Terrain Tires are what I've got and I have never had a problem. Those are very durable tires. They generally run about 250 a tire so they are kinda pricey.
Next a tool box is a must have if you are not going to get a camper shell.
In my tool box I have the following and still need more
2 Medical Kits
2 Extra large fire extinguishers
1 Shovel
2 25 foot tow straps rated for 15,000 pounds each
1 Large fire axe
1 122 piece basic tool kit
2 Pairs of jumper cables
2 Cold weather kits which contain cold weather clothing,gloves, a beanie, goggles, boots, water, water resistant sleeping bag, and some other stuff.
1 Air compressor
And other stuff I can not remember.
In the cab of my truck I've got a CB Radio which is hooked to a public address speaker behind my grill. Also make sure you get some dependable flashlights. I've got on 3 D-Cell Maglite LED. I MagCharger which is pretty much the same thing but more powerful and rechargeable so my battery can charge it. Also I've got a smaller Surefire 6LP LED light. One thing I have learned from being in law enforcement, you can NEVER have too many flashlights.
Also for everything that you have that requires alkaline batteries have extra batteries on hand. As for cell phones, you can go to Target and get one of those portable power sources that will has will instantly charge your cellphone with out needing a power source.
GPS Navigation is also something you may want to invest in. It will tell you how to get places and when you are in B.F.E it will tell you exactly where you are in the world if you need to call for help.
Also if you are planning for stuff like this it is very important to take a first aid class or one up become EMT Certified so that you can heal yourself or others if you become ill or injured.
Along with a medical class have an escape plan of where your going to take your super truck when the "zombies" come. Some survival classes would help greatly too.
I know that I have pretty much just written a book in this thread and it is extremely long, but I hope it helps.

Naa dude, it's not directed at anyone. Just making a prediction. Not about you either.
My life fades. The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos. Ruined dreams.
This wasted land. But most of all, I remember The Road Warrior. The man we called "Max".
To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time. When the world was powered by the black fuel.
And the desert sprouted great cities of pipe and steel. Gone now, swept away.
For reasons long forgotten, two mighty warrior tribes went to war and touched off a blaze which engulfed them all.
Without fuel, they were nothing. They built a house of straw. The thundering machines sputtered and stopped.
Their leaders talked and talked and talked. But nothing could stem the avalanche. Their world crumbled.
The cities exploded. A whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear. Men began to feed on men.
On the roads it was a white line nightmare. Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive.
The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice.
And in this maelstrom of decay, ordinary men were battered and smashed. Men like Max.
The warrior Max. In the roar of an engine, he lost everything. And became a shell of a man, a burnt out,
desolate man, a man haunted by the demons of his past, a man who wandered out into the wasteland.
And it was here, in this blighted place, that he learned to live again...
This wasted land. But most of all, I remember The Road Warrior. The man we called "Max".
To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time. When the world was powered by the black fuel.
And the desert sprouted great cities of pipe and steel. Gone now, swept away.
For reasons long forgotten, two mighty warrior tribes went to war and touched off a blaze which engulfed them all.
Without fuel, they were nothing. They built a house of straw. The thundering machines sputtered and stopped.
Their leaders talked and talked and talked. But nothing could stem the avalanche. Their world crumbled.
The cities exploded. A whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear. Men began to feed on men.
On the roads it was a white line nightmare. Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive.
The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice.
And in this maelstrom of decay, ordinary men were battered and smashed. Men like Max.
The warrior Max. In the roar of an engine, he lost everything. And became a shell of a man, a burnt out,
desolate man, a man haunted by the demons of his past, a man who wandered out into the wasteland.
And it was here, in this blighted place, that he learned to live again...
Raoul -
do i detect a sense of humor here? a wry, witty, sophisticated whiff of classical allegory, perhaps?
i'm thinking seriously of putting your post on a large door sticker for the truck....
do i detect a sense of humor here? a wry, witty, sophisticated whiff of classical allegory, perhaps?
i'm thinking seriously of putting your post on a large door sticker for the truck....
if you cannot at least answer his questions, can y'all at least lay off the stupid stuff? there is some wierd stuff, but the basic question was asked. please stick with that ... being deployed sucks...but at least I'm not in the Desert. name of the game I guess. only 10 yrs left now though 

anyway, don't forget to duck. i am in the process of retiring now; i'm just getting the last of the sand out of my... 4th point of contact.
i started my infantry life at fort hood, as a maintenance officer. i think i have pulled everything the army owns out of one or another hole from that place. i think the prize has to be split between
a) the CUCV (blazer) upside down in a shell hole on the side of one of the "mountains" there (this was a night recovery), and
b) the 578 buried up to the turret in a mud pit. when i first got there, i thought somebody had managed to knock the turret off, because the hull was completely immersed. i offered to plant petunias and come back in the spring.... they didn't think that was funny.
Last edited by JackandJanet; Jan 4, 2010 at 07:48 PM. Reason: Removed pot stirring comment
FYI
I have 23 pages of really good suggestions i have to weed through and incorporate into the design.. i doubt you'll see that today; i have homework to do!
happy new year and, thanks everyone!
joe
I have 23 pages of really good suggestions i have to weed through and incorporate into the design.. i doubt you'll see that today; i have homework to do!
happy new year and, thanks everyone!
joe
I'd also include a .22LR rifle for hunting small game. It's a lot easier to carry around 2,000 rounds of .22LR than .40 or 5.56... Save the larger calibers for larger game or defense.
guns and guns and more guns...
I will say this though - I'm in the process of retiring after 35 years as an infantryman (half of that on AD), and I’ve been through three wars. I’ve got all the rifles, shotguns, pistols, and revolvers I can afford; there are still guns on my shopping list, and there are never too many guns or ammo, simply too many guns and ammo to carry.
now, having said that, I like (not implying I have them, mind you, just "like"): classic bolt action assault rifles for their accuracy, semis for their firepower, target pieces, large bore handguns, concealable handguns, shotguns, and grenades. Also mortars, and MGs. Plus rockets and small missile launchers.
Oh, all right, then, big missile launchers.
My all time favorite, though, is the 90 mm recoilless. The 106 is dandy, but I can't carry one.
And, for purely emotional reasons, I tend to avoid "enemy" pieces, unless it's one I borrowed from the enemy, he having no further use for it at the time.
And yes, I know broke the first rule. Consistency was never my strong suit.






