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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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[QUOTE=tequilajohnson;4020540]Despite the completely ridiculous question, I am going to give you an answer. You need something small and agile. Get a Jeep or a Toyota and build it right.[QUOTE]

Couldn't have said it any better.


 

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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This is the most awesome thread ever. Whether you're a looney or not is irrelevant. Everyone here builds up their trucks for aesthetic or performance purposes on or off the road, but this is different. This is a really neat outside-the-box motivation for modification and I applaud you. I'm modifying my truck to be the perfect post-hurricane relief vehicle. I've seen firsthand the pitfalls of regular trucks trying to traverse the city after one of these massive storms blows through. Sure some of my vehicle's attributes are overkill for daily driving, but it's that one season a year I know I'm ready for and it's a small dose of what you're talking about. Looting, no power or light, spoiling food, no fuel, streets littered with debris.

I read through about 2 1/2 of the pages before 2.5 and 4.2 started blending together to form 6.7, so forgive me if I missed this suggestion. Line-X XTRA your entire vehicle and everything that goes on it. I Line-X'ed my aftermarket bumper from Boondock and hit a car. Took off the back end of an Acura, not a single chip off the bumper. That stuff is stronger than snot. I want to Line-X things that shouldn't be Line-X'ed. My cell phone, my house, my cereal bowls. I love it.

Good luck with this project even if it never comes to fruition. It'll be a great reference either way.

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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I think that you need to keep your truck as light as possible. The more specialized and heavier crap that you put on your truck will just weigh it down and give you more points of breaking. Any stock truck is designed to perform its best when it is stock, so the more you modify it the more chances of it breaking.

If you are going to go with a truck from 1997 to 2003 you should go with a X-Cab or S-Crew, with a 4.6L or 5.4L. If you get the 5.4 you need to ensure that the spark plugs are squared away so you don’t wind up with a blown plug, as was common with that engine. Here is what you need.

4 or 6 inch fabtech lift, 35 inch MT tires with at least 2 spares but 4 is preferred.
(High quality tires, Goodyear Kevlar’s, of Firestone MT's)
Intake, Exhaust exiting above the bed (as you may need to cross water)
Front and rear Winch, Heavy bumpers (you should be able to pick up winches and bumpers on eBay for cheaper than new.
Rock sliders, front end and fuel tank skid plates, generator, air compressor, Electronic Lockers, 50 to 100 gallon bed mount fuel tank (possible to find one on Craig’s list, cheap)
Roof Rack for spare tires and spare parts.

That’s my recommendation, I spend a lot of time putting my truck into situations in the mountains with only 3 inched of lift and 33 inch Firestone MT's and I haven’t had any problems.

Make sure you load up on spare parts (joints, half shafts, ext)

Thanks for Reading

Brandon
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Everyone remember the truck is 2WD, so 4" and 6" kits wont do him any good...his better options are the 7.5" fabtech kit, the 6" ProComp(which is basically the 7.5" kit), and 3.5" fabtech spindle kit...or some level of body lift. IMO, for your purposes, I would not do the body lift, I would stick to only suspension.

Everything I lsited before is pretty much the essentials for your purpose, hope it helps.
 

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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[QUOTE=Triton_98;4020783][QUOTE=tequilajohnson;4020540]Despite the completely ridiculous question, I am going to give you an answer. You need something small and agile. Get a Jeep or a Toyota and build it right.

Couldn't have said it any better.


I have one myself and it works great.




There is no way you are going to turn your 2wd vehicle into what you are saying. If you do, let me know, and I will come and see it. I live in San Antonio and probably laugh at you for spending so much unnecessary money. Not because what you are doing is unnecessary (which by the way, it is) but because you could make what you want at a way more reasonable price by buying a old Toyota, gearing it out and putting lockers on. That is what I did with mine. You cannot kill those 22r motors. The truck you see above has cost me $3000 and next month I will be putting another 2K in it and I promise mine would outwheel anything you do with that Ford.
 

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Joe if you can't afford at least a 250 this project is pointless. I wouldn't take on such action unless it was on a F250 or F350 or comparable Dodge/Chevy. My reasoning is that you need a solid front axle on a proven frame and you don't need Rockwell axles to do this project. It would be easier all the way around too because the bolts on are easier for the 250/350. The bigger trucks can handle the weight and the abuse and it's cheaper to upgrade them that converting an F150.

Don't look at anything new either. You need old school mechanics with no computers. They have to run on DIESEL for long life and a solid performance. The diesel engines can run trash gas and can be run on propane or vegetable oil using a kit and still use diesel fuel.

The rest is pretty much beaten to death here one way or the other.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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.,..Why did you buy an extended warranty when the world is ending in 2 years?
Robber: "Your money or your life!"
Victim: "You'll have to kill me, I'm saving my money for my old age."
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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[QUOTE=tequilajohnson;4020898][QUOTE=Triton_98;4020783][QUOTE=tequilajohnson;4020540]Despite the completely ridiculous question, I am going to give you an answer. You need something small and agile. Get a Jeep or a Toyota and build it right.

I have one myself and it works great.




There is no way you are going to turn your 2wd vehicle into what you are saying. If you do, let me know, and I will come and see it. I live in San Antonio and probably laugh at you for spending so much unnecessary money. Not because what you are doing is unnecessary (which by the way, it is) but because you could make what you want at a way more reasonable price by buying a old Toyota, gearing it out and putting lockers on. That is what I did with mine. You cannot kill those 22r motors. The truck you see above has cost me $3000 and next month I will be putting another 2K in it and I promise mine would outwheel anything you do with that Ford.[/QUOTE]



Finally someone that truly wheels lol.

mine is a 92 toyota 4x4 locked, armored, geared. 3 inch lift, 33's. out wheels lots of bigger and what i though was badder rides.
 

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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http://www.rhapsody.com/ron-white/dr...rricane-george

Ron White- Hurricane George

Listen to this. It kinda describes this thread.
 

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Triton_98


Finally someone that truly wheels lol.

mine is a 92 toyota 4x4 locked, armored, geared. 3 inch lift, 33's. out wheels lots of bigger and what i though was badder rides.
Pics Please!

82 "Yoda" 4x4, locked front and rear, 5.29 gears on 36" TSL's. Chopped cab, rollcage. Next month it is getting a dove tailed, 4.3l swap, dual transfer cases, turbo 350 transmission, full hydro steering, and going to run this beast on propane. Taking it out this weekend, and twice more in Jan. PM me if you want and I will send you a link with pics and vids.

now end of thread hijack, Lets here some more from the circus clown! ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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I read 2 pages and then had to give up because of all the stupid name calling and people failing to answer your question.

You want a survival vehicle to get you the heck out of town, reliable, decent range, not cost alot of money, and have the cargo room to get you & yours to safety and back with everything you need.

see bold below
Originally Posted by Joethefordguy
resources are not unlimited.

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Requirement 1: Free Of Prepared Road Surfaces
1. Ground clearance – Pro Comp Stage 1 6" lift kit + 3" Body Lift. Give you 9" roughly of total lift. 6" lift is about $1,200 and the BL is about $300
2. Suspension travel - see above
3. Traction – $500 for a detroit locker, about $500 per axle for 4.56 gears...say $1,500-2,000 total to install a locker out back and new gears to offset the new rubber
4. body armor, skid plates, push bars - kinda pointless...I suggest instead you get the Reciever style winch mounts. that way a single 15,000 lb winch can be used front or back for retrivieval as the situation warrants.
5. 35-37" tires...get you that ground clearance...you'll see about a 4-5" increase

you can get rock slider/steps for about $250...look up Nfab



Requirement 2: Load Carrying Capability
1. OEM payload package & HD suspension - get an add-a-leaf to go in conjunction with the 6" lift kit...will give you about 7" of rear suspension alone (Pro-Comp uses blocks with their basic kit)
2. OEM ClIII Trailer hitch & trailer - OEM Class IV hitch rated for 10,000 lbs...factory is than aftermarket IMO
3. Camper top - good idea
4. Cargo rack - see above
5. Hoist
6. 15,000 lb winch with dual battery setup
7. Jeep/Truck bed trailer - get an old 70/80's truck bed trailer. then put a swivel hitch onto the neck of it...will allow articulation for offroading, and give you 8 ft of additional storage space

Requirement 3: Extended Range
1. Economy engine programming
2. Aux fuel tanks - don't bother...fuel cans. there isn't alot of room underneath for bigger tanks...my old 30 gallon tank was good for minimum of 400 miles. utilize a trailer for the storage space


Requirement 4: Reliability
1. Consumer reports ratings
2. Limit deviation from oem specs
3. OEM HD cooling & electrical
4. Reliability improving mods – synthetic oil, etc.
Ford trucks are damn reliable. but they are getting older. and have alot of electronics.

You can pick up a 70/80's truck, refurbish the entire drivetrain and it will last you for years...without the electrical problems.

if the **** hits the fan, roadways and bridges will likely be impassible. that means you will be fording rivers and going way off the beaten path at times.

you don't want alot of electrical stuff.

Requirement 5: Limited Resources
1. 2000 F150 <60K <$7850
2. CarMax reputation and warranty ($1449)
3. Used components – Shell @ $410, etc.


i would appreciate any advice, recommendations, etc. the people on this forum have lots more experience in this than i ever will; i'd rather not make my own mistakes if i can learn from someone else's experience. thanks, again, for your time.
joe

you aren't the only one to consider what might happen if things go South. I'm more of a well armed stay at home person myself. Kinda hard to escape to anywhere out here on this Island...but I'll be damned if anyone would get closer than 100 yds of my house without a bullit in the head
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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I read 2 pages and then had to give up because of all the stupid name calling and people failing to answer your question.

You want a survival vehicle to get you the heck out of town, reliable, decent range, not cost alot of money, and have the cargo room to get you & yours to safety and back with everything you need.

see bold below



you aren't the only one to consider what might happen if things go South. I'm more of a well armed stay at home person myself. Kinda hard to escape to anywhere out here on this Island...but I'll be damned if anyone would get closer than 100 yds of my house without a bullit in the head
That is all good except if he doesn't do a SAS, it is pointless. IFS will not hold up. period. What you told him will work until he gets to anything more than a muddy field.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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This thing turned into quite the train wreck since I saw it last. Sad thing is.........I can't look away!!!
 

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Get a bicycle they don't require fuel.

 

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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by powerstroke73


This thing turned into quite the train wreck since I saw it last. Sad thing is.........I can't look away!!!


hahahah FTW!!!
 
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