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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Dear Kobi thank you for your response and insight to my toilet paper dilemma. I have not yet confronted the misses with the issue again. I am compiling more of the "it's all about me" ammo then going to softly approach this at a precise possibly a well-coordinated and appropriate time. Unless all the "It's all about me." proves to grow to an intolerable level, at which time I will be inclined to "Kick the B*tch™" to the curb.
Just kidding!






Now I have yet another unrelated question:
What is the fundamental difference between Tennis Shoes and Sneakers?
I understand Tennis Shoes are designed to play tennis in.
So I can only assume that sneakers refer to other athletic footwear that is not golf shoes, bowling shoes, or baseball cleats.
But why are they called sneakers? When you hear them on the basketball court they defiantly are not sneaky or stealth.

Thank you for any insight that you might be able to give me.

Confused foot wear consumer.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Dear confused footwear consumer -

Thanks for your question. First, no problem with the toilet paper problem. Just be forewarned, saving "ammo" for the It's all about me thing could backfire (get it . . . ammo . . . backfire . . . ) and then it won't matter which way you roll your toilet paper, you're going to be in the crapper regardless.

With regard to your question, fundamentally there is no difference. They are just two names for the same thing.

I know that the term sneakers goes back as far as the 1800s. The name meant any shoe that had a canvas upper and a rubber sole.

Other names besides tennis shoes and sneakers are gym shoes, athletic shoes, running shoes, etc.

What with today's very specific shoe styles, it could be taken to be that tennis shoes are the shoes very specifically marketed for tennis and cross training shoes very specifically designed and marketed for cross training, as are running shoes, basketball shoes, rock climbing shoes, and on and on. You could say that sneakers could be used to refer to any casual shoe not within those specific specialty categories . . . but at the same time, calling any of those specific shoes sneakers also works, and everyone would know what you meant.

When you get down to it, what's the difference? . . . well, depending on who the manufacturer is, about 50 dollars.

Other footwear fun, while we're on this topic, are boots.

For example, a quick run into my closet gets me this pic (sorry, it's blurry)



Now, there was a time when those would have been called "Cowboy Boots", and for all I know, in some parts of the country they still are. There was a time a number of years ago that boots of that style were all the rage in Lost Angeles. Back then, I had never worn a pair and wouldn't dream of it (I tend to buck trends). Some time after every putz in town gave up on boots, my GF at the time really liked that style of boot . . . so she got me a pair (she bucked trends too). Now, if you had walked into Boot Barn, or Kings Western Wear and asked for "Cowboy Boots" they'd know what you meant, but they would give you a look not entirely unlike Oh, how sweet, a mentally challenged, out of touch with fashion, unfortunate person. Whatever.

They are called boots, or western boots, and by some cowboy boots. All names for the same thing. What are they called in the Ozarks?

Well, I could sit here and write about footwear till the cows come home (I was a big fan of Imelda Marcos) but I've got other things to attend to.

Just know that, whether you buy tennis shoes or running shoes or basketball shoes . . . to many of us, you are really buying sneakers.

That's what I call them, and I'm standing by that.

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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kobiashi





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K-
I agree over the top is the correct way , that way you can fold the front edges over to make a nice Martha Stewart type of point , making the toilet
paper roll not only functional but attractive as well.

Sorry to jack your thread but due to the importance of this overlooked point
of decorum and manners, i could not contain myself and just lurk.

Russell


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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 01:53 AM
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LOL I agree And don't be a lurker....join in. It's fun!
 
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 01:58 AM
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LOL I agree And don't be a lurker....join in. It's fun!
I am not shy, I have always had an enjoyable time here. Some of these
threads are just to funny.

Kobi needs to syndicate. Then i can say i knew of him when he was.........

Cheers

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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 02:28 AM
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I see now, I had wondered if it wasnt one in the same but that didn't seem logical.

As far as the boots here in the Ozarks they are like athletic shoes, The ones like yours have a number of names. Cowboy boots, Western Boots, Sh*t kickers, Goat Ropers, Trucker Boots are probably the most common names associated with them. If someone says they are going to go get a new pair of "boots" then you know they generally mean Wetern Boots similar to yours.

I have never been a big fan of boots but do to my desire to have the right foot wear for every occasion that I might find myself in. I have a few, one pair of Lacers, one pair of knee high Red Ball® rubbers, one pair of hunting boots and the nicest being a pair of custom hand made shark skin cowboy boot, with kid skin uppers and a walking heel (that need to be resoled).

Well since I dont know anything about sneakers, I dont like boots, then your probably wondering what I wear. Well I don't, I am a Hillbilly. I'm sure that you have seen the post cards, we go barefoot.



Just kidding, I generaly wear casual walking shoes. Something that goes well with dress socks, Levi's and a t-shirt. OR Kahaki's and a button down the front shirt. Must be light weight, comfortable, yet stylish.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
As far as the boots . . . The ones like yours have a number of names . . . Goat Ropers . . .

I was just about to close my browser and go to bed when I saw that someone had posted in Just Ask Kobi™ so I had to check it out.

As for calling the boots "Goat Ropers" . . . . I soooooooo do NOT want to know what that means. That . . . is scary.

As for Russell's comment that I need to be syndicated . . . DAMN STRAIGHT!!!. I made a shameless self-promotin earlier and I'll do it here again. If anyone knows anyone in the newspaper/syndication business, or if you . . . that's right, you . . . reading this . . .are in that business, put me in your paper or magazine. If it catches on (how could it not?!) the syndication could be huge and the money (for you and me) could be serious (always a good thing).

Alright . . . I'm gonna try and sleep.

Y'all think of anything you need answered and write it here and I'll get to it in the morning.

K-

P.S. Christmas is coming . . . :santa:
 
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 03:36 AM
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As for calling the boots "Goat Ropers" . . . . I soooooooo do NOT want to know what that means. That . . . is scary.
Don't ask me about that one I really dont know the orgins. There really isn't many goats around here and as far as I know there is not any goat farms. So it has to be imported from somewhere else. Raoul might beable to answer that one better.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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'Goat Ropers' is a put-down.
Cowboys wear cowboy boots. When wannabe cowboys are wearing the boots they are called goat ropers.

It's used like the term 'Chevy driver'' on this site.
 

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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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OK . . . good to know. And further proof that if I don't know something, someone else does.

So Raoul, how do goat herders take having their profession mocked, seen as second class citizens to cowboys?

Do you guys have a lobby? Represented by any PR firms? Maybe you guys should consider a PR media push . . . get the word out.

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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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OK . . . good to know. An further proof that if I don't know something, someone else does.

So Raoul, how do goat herders take having their profession mocked, seen as second class citizens to cowboys?

Do you guys have a lobby? Represented by any PR firms? Maybe you guys should consider a PR media push . . . get the word out.

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Kobi, being from Texas, quite possibly the place of origin for the trem "goat roper", I have heard the term most of my life. It is not to infer a second class citizenship to goat "people" but more a term of derision for someone who is trying to look like a cowboy but is obviously not. Since goats are not roped as part of their care, it is to say that the person trying to look like a cowboy would not know any better than to try and rope goats. Thus it is just saying he is a fraud, just trying to look the part.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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So, even worse . . . it is just a flat-out, seriously intense INSULT . . . using goat herders (whether actually intended or not) as an exemplification of someone who is a poser/moron.

That will really make Raoul's day!
 
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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So, even worse . . . it is just a flat-out, seriously intense INSULT . . . using goat herders (whether actually intended or not) as an exemplification of someone who is a poser/moron.

That will really make Raoul's day!
No! You missed the point! It is a slam on the dude trying to look like a cowboy but would obviously not know that you do not rope goats. By calling him a goat roper, you are pointing out his ignorance. Has nothing to do with real goat people.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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No, I didn't miss the point. I totally understand that you are making fun of the person's ignorance, that he is posing. For example:

Some lawyer or account, who has never seen a horse or steer in his life, has never been out of the city, maybe never left a high-rise office building . . . is walking around with "cowboy boots" on. He wouldn't know the difference between roping some cattle and roping a goat. So you refer to him (either to his face or indirectly) as a goat roper . . . meaning he's not the real thing.

Now, the main subject here is the poser wearing the boots, the comment is intended to demonstrate he's "less than" the real thing. Any time a comparison like that is made, it implies, in this case - albeit indirectly, that the goat roper is "less than" a real cowboy . . . even though that is not the intent. And although that is not the intent, that the comment was not meant to insult goat ropers, if you had made the comment within earshot of a goat roper . . . chances are they would take the comment as an insult (and rightly so).

Imagine you're watching Comedy Central . . . Chris Rock is on. He's talking about some guy (who is African American) at some club who can't dance, and he makes the comment "That guy danced like a white guy!" (cue audience laughter). Now, that certainly is NOT a "dis" of us white folk, it totally about the guy who can't dance . . . but it's still an indirect shot at us haystacks.

Fortunately for me . . . I'm one of the few white dudes who can dance .

















OK...I lied . . . I have absolutely dancing ability what-so-ever.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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No, you call him that because he is ignorant to the fact you do not have to rope goats, not because goat herders are of a lesser class. He does not know he is being made fun of because he is a fraud, all show, no go..
 
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