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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob_02Lightning
. . . or maybe a Airaid System too, (since it seals against the hood when closed)


Which means maybe we can figure a way to extend or seal a PSP or JLP box to do the same ???
Jim's post stated that "And I don't buy the 'shrouded' filter or 'it'll get enough cool air when the truck is moving' theories." This would seem to rule out the Airraid, which does not seal at the end.

Another poster stated that KB told him to buy a JLP box. Which is a little odd, considering that the JLP box is also just "shrouded" in the sense that it can still pull in underhood air when sitting still. But if the JLP perforated lid is sealed, the box becomes pretty damn airtight and then draws air only from the fenderwell and scoop.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rav1972
Sal must have been given a free whipple blower to get on board so fast. He almost seems to be sticking up for them out of his way. Strange
I'm sold on the Whipple system also. Sounds like they owe me a free blower. Someone let me know where to send my address.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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I wish both Whipple blowers were out already. My top two choices are a Whipple 3.3 or a single or twin turbo setup. Would be nice to have the Whipple for the easy install. A custom turbo setup would be almost double a 3.3 Whipple project. KB despite all is my 3rd choice. I guess Ill give Whipple and Sal a year to come up with a kit.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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I have a built engine/KB combo with open filter. After reading all this Im considering removing my hood altogether hoping that will be enough cool air to keep the KB from locking up!!!Yea its Ghetto but maybe it will run a few tenths quicker and last more than a few months
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by eric smith
I have a built engine/KB combo with open filter. After reading all this Im considering removing my hood altogether hoping that will be enough cool air to keep the KB from locking up!!!Yea its Ghetto but maybe it will run a few tenths quicker and last more than a few months
Would arodynamics come into play?
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tucsonpred
You've seen it, now see and hear it.
Sorry it's only a minute long but it's something.
I cleaned Spanky's engine while he did my brakes yesterday, took a little video on the way to have my rotors turned.

Note it was 109 out (At 7pm)
Spanky can chime in to answer questions. All I really know is that "kick in the ***" I thought this truck should have when getting on it, his does.

Sorry no burn out vid.

This is for those "I want to see it running" people" enjoy.

Whipple video broadband (15 megs)


Whipple video small (Dial up 3 megs)

Please right click save as due to my site having flakey delivery

Sorry to change the topic on you guys Where the heck are the dyno #'s on the Whipple? Sorry, I'm a very impatient individual.

Hell, I know of someone who would have had the blower on and dyno'd the day after he got one (**cough** camcojb **cough**). And this person was originally #1 in line to get one and do a back to back KB/Whipple dyno comparison. Too bad Whipple dropped the ball and he didn't get one.

So, my question is, what's the delay with the dyno?

Steve
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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You would think he would have to get it dyno tuned right after the installation.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 2bscrewed
You would think he would have to get it dyno tuned right after the installation.
You don't have to put it on a dyno to tune it. With as many people that have their own widebands, dyno tuning may be a thing of the past for a lot of people. I think you will see more people track tuning. I'd like to see some track times.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob_02Lightning
I'm not taking a stand for either side, especially because I have considered, (and still am) switching to a KB.
Dude,
Pressure is pressure! Doesn't matter if it comes from an Eaton, Magnum power, Turbo or Kenny Bell.

Why are you considering switching to a KB, when that obviously is not your problem?

Hell Hook up a toro leaf blower, pressure is pressure.

 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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Now thats some funny Sh*t...........................
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharpshooter
You don't have to put it on a dyno to tune it. With as many people that have their own widebands, dyno tuning may be a thing of the past for a lot of people. I think you will see more people track tuning. I'd like to see some track times.
OK, then how about some track times?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by l-menace
Dude,
Pressure is pressure! Doesn't matter if it comes from an Eaton, Magnum power, Turbo or Kenny Bell.

Why are you considering switching to a KB, when that obviously is not your problem?

Hell Hook up a toro leaf blower, pressure is pressure.


I thought you bought an SRT-10 already??
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by l-menace
Dude,
Pressure is pressure! Doesn't matter if it comes from an Eaton, Magnum power, Turbo or Kenny Bell.

Why are you considering switching to a KB, when that obviously is not your problem?
Because
I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM
My L is currently running the absolute best (and strongest) IT HAS EVER RAN IN IT'S LIFE. Please show me some other Lightnings with 588 SAE TQ and over 450 SAE HP on an Eaton with stock Heads and Cams, (on a street tune). Remember the comparison I did was on the same program, but we also have other program NOW, because the truck will once again take timing.

My problem was, I did not gain any more power with a Mag, there are hundreds of stock block L's out there running KB's and they seem to have no problem making 500 / 600. I have no reason to believe I wouldn't do the same with a KB, (or Whipple for that matter). No one runs a KB at 23 lbs on stock heads and cams, and I wouldn't have to either, so this stock spring issue that we hope is holding back the big boost Mag owners, wouldnt be an issue at 17-18 lbs of boost on a KB (or Whipple).
AMOF it isn't according to Whipple

FORD 1999-2004 5.4L/2 VALVE LIGHTNING & HARLEY DAVIDSON TRUCK

the Whipple can produce incredible power levels with the stock 5.4L Lightning & Harley Davidson Truck engine as well as highly modified engines. Run 8-15psi of boost on pump gas with stock engines.

This is a direct bolt-on replacement with dramatically lower temps and power consumption (hp) than the factory Eaton roots-type supercharger. Kits come with all the necessary parts for 12.5 and 15lbs of boost.

175HP gain on stock Lightning & Harley Davidson Truck engines.
More available with custom tuning and other performance parts.


Does anyone know if they're sticking to these Prices ???
in Black that sound reasonable.

Lightning & Harley Davidson Truck 2300AX SC upgrade kit/Black
$ 3295

Lightning & Harley Davidson Truck 2300AX SC upgrade kit/Polished
$ 3895


I'm afraid to ask how long we're guessing till people (not on the waiting list) can actually buy one from someone who has them in stock ???
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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2 weeks.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob_02Lightning
Please show me some other Lightnings with 588 SAE TQ and over 450 SAE HP on an Eaton with stock Heads and Cams, (on a street tune). ???

Rob,
I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you, but if the MP was putting out over 20# ... aww nevermind.

That puts my conservative street tune 435/522 on my stock block to shame.
you beat me, 15 more hp and 66 more ft/lbs. at what cost?

Please explain how The pressure in the combustion chamber is going to be different? will it be cooler? will it allow you to run more timing? will the tune be different?

I'm not trying to be a smartass. I'm trying to figure out how the engine will know that it has a $3300 blower and now has to make more power ... at the same pressure that the 1/2 price magnum was making.

Is the Whipple that much more efficient and it doesn't that much parasitic power to spin it? thus freeing up horsepower, instead of actually creating more?
 
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