So much for that clean engine.

So for a recap of this thread...
I make a video, it gets a couple comments
Someone makes a comment about Whipple and the 2 weeks thing thus begins the Whipplebashing
Jim Bell gets involved in the Whipple bashing
Sal chimes in, gets bashed
Sal bashes back
KB's get bashed
A bunch of people are compaining that Whipple has to wait on compressors from another company rather than putting out sub-par products
A bunch of people can't understand why it has not been dyno'd or tracked yet
Will posts pics of said shiny horsepower maker and it quiets the restless village.. for a while

 

Maybe you need to start a new thread with those engine pictures. A lot of people may have gave up on this thread after the 2nd page.

 

whats so sad is that it's completely true. Welcome to f150.

 

10 pages. You should be proud to have a ten page thread. You should bask in it's glory. The only time you see ten page threads on most boards is if the person who started the thread is a female. The first five threads are people humping and begging for pics, the next five pages are spent humping those pics. Besides theres alot of good info in this thread and seeing that whipple blower just turns me on. Do you know what having a whipple would mean for me? I could finally a get a lower hood that a less than 6'6" person can see over! I may be able to go to a 3" hood. That would be SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

being both the kennebell and whipple are both on back order I have been calling both.

whipple told me they would not be getting any compressors until late august early September and kennebell told me two weeks now that’s a switch

 

KBs will be shipping out thursday or friday.

 

i sure hope so thats all i need to finish this motor

 

Why was a vehicle in that running condition chosen as the test vehicle>???
Why not ask someone with a good running KB truck to do the testing. That makes no sense to me at all. I think it is rather silly to be honest with you. -Mat-

 

I don't think Will's was chosen as a test vehicle. He was one of the first involved in spreading the info on the Whipples and had info coming straight from them to the boards, so he got his name on a list. His was not a KB truck so would not have been used as the KB VS Whipple test I don't believe.

Jody

 

I can understand that and it was great of Will to spread the word like that. But I would think Whipple as a company, with the claims they are making would want to have their blower on a "good" running truck that had a KB on it before. Ya know to try and keep all these people that have been waiting a little happy. I dunno, that is just my opinion on the matter. -Mat-

 

Where is the 'testing'? This is a production blower, he just happens to be one of two people to have it. Does that make him a test vehicle? I he paid for this blower, it was not given to him, like a 'test blower' should be. It's his truck not a donor. You want a 'test truck' look at Whipples. Whipple has nothing to prove against KB, KB is KB, MP is MP, Whipple is Whipple and Eatons are Eatons. Where does the idea of Whipple having to ***** themselfs out to KB owners to get them to convert come from? If I was Whipple I wouldn't even bother asking KB owners to switch. What, with the great relationship they have with UPS, expert and speedy blower R&R'ing and they'd have to remove thier stock airbox's. That sounds like a lot of work to me to catch hell from other KB owners about 'selling out'. Why ask someone to swap blowers when the company, or magazines will do it for fun. THe amount of things changing from an Eaton to the Whipple were a full day of work, the 'shootout' would take atleast 3 days, R&R, dyno pulls and recording results. This is a daily driven truck, not a blower test rack, it's got to still get him to the job that paid for the blower. It's on, it runs, and runs really well. If your going to rely on THIS truck to sell you on a Whipple you might want to spend more time researching it, don't base purchases on internet boards, for 15+ years they have been misleading.

BTW there is another Whipple out there, what is it's install state, dyno numbers, track times? It probably is done, he just didn't want to sit and defend every little thing to people about why he didn't do this or that.

BTW the misfiring plug began the day before or after the blower was shipped. No one can figure out what it is, flip the a/c on and it runs smooth, turn it off that cyl misses, it's not like there is no compression and it smokes like a train, it has a little miss, not bad but not 'perfect' either. I don't remember anywhere at anytime Will saying he had to sign some contract that his truck at to be 100% 100% of the time and he had to make a dyno pull or track pass when asked. This stupid plug/inj/cyl isn't killing the truck, but it's not at peak performance either. Would you spend $250 on dyno time (+ $200 or more in gas to drive up, tow and race fuel) knowing full well the numbers you got would be wrong?

(and if you can't take the little KB joke, lighten up )

 

WoW there buddy......
Wasn't Whipple going to offer KB customers money to switch over>???
Didn't Whipple claim they would smoke the KB>???
If you come out with a new product, you do have something to prove. -Mat-

 

Money to switch is news to me
Smoking KB's? I think KB handles that well themselves (Yep I'm still joking) I drive a pretty much stock L with a canned Diablo tune, I'm a risk taker!
Yes Whipple does have something to prove, but currently it's not much more than a 1 off blower until more than 5 make it out into the world. Once they do and people buy them, and they get reviewed, and tested, and start putting down numbers there isn't much to prove. I can prove 1, well 2 exist and run, right now they're not much more than a Works. When more people have the ability to get them it will become more important to prove them. It's no different than Half Life 2 being delayed as many years as it had been, with "Next week, next month" promises. People said they were not going to buy it, they still did, Valve still got thier money and it might even be a better game than had it been released on time. I don't know if Whipple will have revisions of the blowers but once more then a handful of people have them the testing should begin on a broader level, hopefully even with Ported Eaton's, MP, KB Whipple shootouts on the same truck, done by a tuner.

 

Well, solve this issue and get Dustin to get you a Whipple. Your truck would be ideal for the KB/Whipple comparison

Steve

 

Just an FYI, Dustin told me that they had a $200. discount to any KB owner who bought their blower. That's where that info came from. I was the first to talk to him about the blower, saw the post on another board and knew it would be removed as he wasn't a supporting vendor. I e-mailed him for more info and he asked me to spread the word which I did. Will also got involved and since we were doing duplicate posting I let him run with it. He kept everyone informed, did a good job, and got his name on the list.

I was supposed to be the direct test truck as I have the KB at a pretty decent power figure. I only live 2 hours away and would be glad to drive down there, dyno my combo and then let them install the Whipple and re-dyno. I do my own tuning so there'd be no changes to timing, etc. other than possibly a maf transfer adjustment to get the A/F where it should be. Dustin wanted to do this to prove the power difference his would make, but has not answered my last few e-mails so I dropped it. No biggie, other than if he wants to prove that it's better it needs this type of back to back, same truck, same day, same boost, fuel, timing, etc. comparison.

Jody