Well, after 8 gruelling hours of truck abuse I finally have come to the conclusion that while the original dyno chart I had yesterday was a smidge off, the gains were still correct.

I recalibrated the dyno this morning just to make sure that everything was on the up and up and that ensure that all the values would be correct. Lo and behold I got darn near identical dyno plots from what I had yesterday. Today was slightly cooler, and that may account for some of the difference between yesterday and today, but all in all the runs were awesome. After some final tweaking on the files I pulled off 230.8 HP and 304.7 Ft./Lbs. at the wheels.

I am going to be working late tonight so the testers can have these files tomorrow. Hopefully they'll see the same results.

As for pricing, I have no control over that. There are distributors/sponsors on here that sell Edge stuff and I would probably suggest that you try them and see if they will give you an "F150Online member" discount. After all, it would help support F150Online.

Anyway, back to work.

Laterz.
Bill

 

Let me know if I'm thinking straight, so that 22% loss or so that you say is a biproduct of your altitude would be added to someone dynoing in the same conditions/dyno etc. at sea level? Or are those new numbers already compensated? Thanks.

 

I was slightly incorrect about the altitude compensation value.... it is actually 18.36 % loss from sea level to 5500 ft. or 22.5% gain from 5500 ft. to sea level. But yes, you would multiply the altitude power values by 1.225 (or HP*(14.7/12.0)) to get the approximate HP at sea level.

In fact, there is a very interesting article I found that has some very good formulas... --> $15 Dyno by Bill Watson <--. It is quite informative.

In any event, because all dynos read slightly different particularly the dfference between load dynos and weighted dynos, I tend to be less concerned with total power values than I am with total difference between runs. You could have one dyno completely off and still accurately record the percentage difference between a stock run and a performance run and visibly see the gains. HP numbers a really just for marketing or bragging rights.

I hope this helps.

 

Yup that is exactly what I was thinking, you answered my question perfectly. Looks like some great gains and with the bling bling factor, I think it's pretty sweet.

 

ASE I know you are busy with work but do you have a dynograph that shows more of the powergains expected in the 1500-3000 range. I'm excited about the gains up top but this thing is a truck and not some rev happy little mustang.

Also how are you figuring your stock runs? Are you making a stock run then connecting the edge tunning and making another run? Or do you do a base stock dyno run XX days ago? I'm just trying to make sure I understand your test methods not trying to be critical.

 

Who is a sponsor of F150 Online that sells Edge products?

 

I'll work on getting some lower RPM dyno plots for ya. The reason I generally don't pull data below 2500 RPM is because the load cell on the dyno can be a little twitchy at lower speed, resulting in erratic readings. But, I'll see what I can do.

As for methods, I generally blow 2 or 3 runs to stabilize the engine, which is of course already at operating temperature. This also helps make sure the dyno warmed up. Then I do 1 or 2 runs on stock, then reprogram and do 1 or 2 runs on power, and finally reprogram back to stock and do 1 more run. Sometimes I'll switch back and forth between each run (stock and power) just to verify the consistency of the runs. I never use files that were not pulled from the same session, even if they are only an hour old. So many factors such as temperature, humidity and even heat soak in the engine can cause discrepancies wich I absolutely won't tolerate. After all, it's no fun looking foolish.

Hope this helps.

 

I might have been mistaken. I think I may have confused the "Ads by Google" thinking that they were sponsors. My mistake. See, we need a sponsor or advertiser on here that sells Edge. Hee hee!

Bill

 

Thanks for taking time to reply ASE. I'm guessing most of us don't see over 2500 rpms durning a normal days drive. But knowing the power is there is always nice!

 

So are we saying that RWHP is 230.8 + 14.7 = 245.5 RWHP at sea level with your tune?

Maybe I also missed in the reading but what octane level is this at?

Are there any other modifications to the 5.4L 3V V8 F150 that this was dyno'd on? (ex. intake or exhaust)

Thanks for the information, as this looks like some very strong gains over competition.

Thanks,

Duke

 

martelbrothers.com

This is the only place that I have found that has our part number listed. There is no ship date and I have never dealt with them before. Has anyone dealt with this orangization?

 

Actually, it works like this....

230.8 x (14.7 / 12.0) = 230.8 x 1.225 = 272.73
This was actually tested on a bone-stock 06 with 87 Octane fuel. The only change was the removal of the fender snorkle (which incidently made about 5 HP). Of course, the snorkle was removed as soon as I left the lot so all dyno runs are without it.

As soon as we are done with the initial release we will be testing aftermarket products (exhaust, intakes, fuzzy dice) and see how much more we can squeak out the beast. I am certain the fuzzy dice will provide the best gains (in coolness, at least as far as my boys are concerned) !!! We may be able to provide calibrations for specific products combinations (ex. Basani exhaust and AFE intake) in future updates. If you (or anyone) has specific combinations that are fairly popular, let me know what you've got and we can compile a list of combinations to test for.

Back to work. They dyno Gods must be appeased!

Bill

 

You are putting out 273hp with just a tuner? An increase of 43hp from just a tune on a gas motor? I was hearing others say 25hp, from an xcal2, which is, afterall, a custom tune. Those "25hp" statements were estimates or complete guesses I am assuming if a canned tune will net you 45hp. Nice work.

 

Hey guys you can click the link here and look for a dealer near you and try to work a deal with them, let them know you will have multiple buyers !

https://local.edgeproducts.com/edge/DealerSearch.aspx

 

Does the EDGE tuner work on the 4.6 motors also, or just the 5.4?