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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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If my friend doesn't have keyless entry, he doesn't have the PATS system?
RKE & PATS are 2 different things.

If he has a 1999 or newer F-150, it is PATS.
SuperDuty line has a different change over to PATS.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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He has I believe an 03 f150 xlt. So all he'd have to do is
buy a remote and do the trick? Because I still have my remotes from my truck that I don't need anymore.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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He has I believe an 03 f150 xlt. So all he'd have to do is
buy a remote and do the trick? Because I still have my remotes from my truck that I don't need anymore.
Not unless his 03 is equipment with a CSM ( Central Security Module, used to be the RAP ).
RKE & PATS are 2 different things, he has PATS the CSM was an option added at the factory, if ordered.

Prior to spending the money on the RKE fob, have him either

1. Try the procedure in the owners manual for programming the fobs.

2. Look up behind the dash on the driver's side for the CSM.

Note parking brake to the left side of the picture.
Driver's side floor.


Looking up behind dash.
Left side of picture is the ratchet mech for the parking brake.


The CSM will have a 5 digit number on it, in large print. This is the code if he had a door keypad ( also controlled by the CSM ).

Locating the module is the quick way, and the entering programming mode for the RKE fobs can be tricky to time.
I always take at least 2 times to get it into programming mode, on my '01 it took 3 times every time, and I thought I did it the same each time ( obviously I did not ).

If he has the CM, he can also ordered the keypad and the door handle, and add that as well.
The wiring for it should be in the door, he would want to confirm this after confirming the CSM.
The keypad wiring has a terminating plug on it, it is mounted right next to the speaker opening in the drivers side door.



 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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If he has the CM, the security light will flash once the vehicle is locked. Not sure if this is the case with onlt PATS.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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Once we confirm he has this, I can give him my remotes and they'll work for him?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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If he has the CM, the security light will flash once the vehicle is locked. Not sure if this is the case with onlt PATS.
The theft light in the cluster is a function of PATS.

RKE is only Remote Keyless Entry, no theft function in terms of an alarm.
Ford Gold Remote Start / Keyless entry is not integrated into the cluster indicators.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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From: Under the flightpath of old ORD 22R
Originally Posted by Dinggus
Once we confirm he has this, I can give him my remotes and they'll work for him?
As long as they are the Ford OEM RKE fobs

 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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I have that.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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has anyone confirmed that the fusion key/remotes will work with 97-03 f150s???

i know the flip out keys wont. but idk bout the reg key/remotes

????
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BigTruckGuy
has anyone confirmed that the fusion key/remotes will work with 97-03 f150s???

i know the flip out keys wont. but idk bout the reg key/remotes

????
I have not tried it, but the 99-03 ( and 04 Heritage and Lightning ) are a different PATS version than the 04-08 MY trucks.

I would take a SWAG that it will not work, but this is just using the PATS info alone, did not try to do it.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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hmm i would try but dont wana pay 30 for a key and it not work...
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tylus
Fusion Key - Locksmith is how I did it. Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot all refused to cut the key. The have a little electronic tester thingy and if it detects a PATS RFID chip, they refuse to do it. I googled Locksmith and went to the first guy who answered his phone. $1.50 later I was driving with the key

Getting 2nd key - I took my eBay key to the Dealership with my 1 operating key. Told them to program the eBay key to my Mustang. They charged me 30 minutes of labor for it...$40 was my charge.


Then I bought several extra keys off eBay and programmed them all myself.
but did you take the key already cut?? or did you tell them to cut it for you too??
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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hmm i would try but dont wana pay 30 for a key and it not work...
I would expect it not to work, but this is how things are found out, someone pays up the money and tries it, and posts the results ( good or bad ) back here.

Someone has to be first.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BigTruckGuy
hmm i would try but dont wana pay 30 for a key and it not work...
Tylus said he would buy the fusion key from me if it didn't work but i havent bought one yet, you could buy a fusion key and try it out if it doesn't work sell it to him
 
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SSCULLY
The theft light in the cluster is a function of PATS.

RKE is only Remote Keyless Entry, no theft function in terms of an alarm.
Ford Gold Remote Start / Keyless entry is not integrated into the cluster indicators.

My mistake. On th 98, per the dealer brochure, the keyless entry and security system were packaged together. My F150 did not have the LED, no Keyless entry, and my bosses did, Keyless entry.
 
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