OhioTC18 - it worked!

To others who are wondering, the FCC code on my factory F150 fob was CWTWB1U331 and the code on the Fusion key was FCC OUCD6000022. Since I lost my spare factory key, I had to go and have it programmed. Took it to a lock and safe company, and for $55 they not only cut the Fusion key they also hooked up their computer and programmed my truck to accept the key. Worked like a charm, zero problems or issues.

FYI - The key itself was $28.95 + shipping and was purchased off of ebay.

Thanks Tylus!!!!!!!

 

OK, It isn't working for me.

I bought two of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=270592875157

They arrived. I went to my 08 F150 and tried to follow the 'program remotes' section of the owners manual. I was able to reprogram my existing key fob remote so one is working, but the new ones didn't do squat.

I checked the batteries and they are fine. I tried it twice and changed the order I attempted to program the remotes and no luck.

The last thing I can think of is the PATS key aspect itself.

I did NOT cut the keys and program them to the truck before attempting to program the remotes. I didn't want to waste my money by cutting it if it wouldn't work anyway. Does the key HAVE to be programmed first BEFORE the remote control function can be programmed?

Or did I buy the wrong item?

I read all 8 pages and can't find any obvious mistakes I made in programming it. Can anyone help me please?


EDITED:

Ok, My wife returned with her keys and remote for the truck. I thought that her remote should not work as it wasn't present when I tried to program the other remotes, but it worked fine.

When the directions say to flip the key from the 1 to the 3 position [off-locked to on] 8 times, do they mean each turn is done 8 times [off to on is one, on to off is two, off to on is three, etc] or does it mean 8 repetition of on-off-on [on to off to on is one, on to off to on is two, on to off to on is three, etc]?

Maybe I did that wrong. I heard the doors lock/unlock, but maybe I turned the key too much.

Putting it in the on position is required. so that is the '0' position when counting the turns, correct?

Sigh: I'll have to experiment more.

 

if you had properly programmed the keys while your wife was gone, her key would not have worked at all.


also, you need 2 properly programmed keys to enter the Programming Mode. Since you were trying this with only 1 key, the PCM never entered the proper set. Get your key and your wifes key. Then repeat the cycle as described on PG-1 using both keys.

After the PCM enters the programming mode, program the new keys to the truck


edit: sorry, thought you were discussing the key portion. just realized you were still talking about the remote part.

 

the key you are linked to is the correct key.

so it's down to a few things.

1. DOA key
2. DOA battery
3. Not properly entering the programming mode.

I've done this on 3 different 04-08 Fords, and many many people have also done this on 04-10 F-150's. We know they are compatible 100%. Now it's just a matter of figuring out what you are doing

 

I've checked the batteries and they are fine. They operate my old remote like a charm. I thought I had entered the programming mode properly, but am not sure. I probably didn't. From my understanding, if I had then my wife's remote would NOT have worked when she returned, as it wasn't present when I tried to program the key/remote and my personal remote. Is this correct?

How likely am I to have 2 DOA remote/keys when their batteries are fine?

The fact my wife's remote worked makes me think I botched it somehow.

back to the drawing board.
Thanks for the quick responses. If you think of anything else, PLEASE let me know.

 

Got the remotes working. Now I just need to get the keys cut and programmed. That will be tomorrow.

Turned out I was only turning the key half as many times as I needed to enter the programming mode.

I counted from ON to Off as 1 turn and Off back to ON as a 2nd turn. Turns out On-to-Off-to-On is 1 turn.

Once I did that they programmed very quickly.

Thanks for the tips/help everyone!

 

1997-2003 Expedition(assuming trucks are the same) CANNOT use the Fusion or Flip key.

The way to tell if your vehicle CANNOT - check in your owners manual, if it says you can use ONE key to program a spare then you're out of luck.

Programming Sequence for 1997-2003

1 - Insert a working key(Only ONE required). Turn to ON position. Wait for Theft Light on dash to turn off.

2 - Within 15 seconds of light going out - Remove Original key, Insert spare key, turn to ON or START position.

If done properly - Theft Light will illuminate STEADY for 2 seconds. - Key can now be used to start the vehicle.

If not done properly - Theft Light will FLASH

(Only 16 keys can be programmed. After 16, you must go to the dealer to get the computer reset and new keys programmed.


As for the Door Lock Transmitters - You must bring all your transmitters to the dealer if you need more of them (Up to 4 total can be programmed for 1 vehicle)

 

Not really sure i follow that or think its correct.
my 01 worked with the original how to from this post for stock keys and key fobs.

Is that just for the fusion and flip key??

 

Here is something I just learned . I have PATS in my expedition and the similar Sentry system in my 1998 Chrysler Sebring Convertible. Both have transponder keys.

The Sebring wouldnt start and the ignition wasnt recognizing one key ( The dash light would not come on). I thought I was at the dealers mercy. I went and took wifes blow dryer and heated up the key (I remembered thats how we used to give new life to old batteries) Well low and behold it recognized the key again.

I went on ebay, ordered new blanks, had them cut at Lowes, and came home and reprogrammed (Which I COULD do because I had 2 WORKING keys)

So this is in a 12 year old car, so be aware you fellow Ford owners with PATS keys, get one spare NOW so you can reprogram when those internal batteries inside the keys wear out....

The clock is ticking inside those OLD keys!

 

What internal battery ?

The Ford PATS system is RFID tags, that are "painted" by the PATS transceiver antenna, which is how the RFID is read.

Works the same way the small white theft tags in items that the store work, until they are "painted" with too much power and are ruined at the counter.

Can't say about the Chrysler system, but the Ford PATS keys do not have batteries in them.

 

I just picked up a 99 F150 XLT, it has pw,pl. but no key fob. I picked one up off ebay and tried to program by the methods of this thread (fob came with same instructions) and nothing, after 8 clicks the locks never cycled. Could it be possible that I just don't have PATS? what can I look for to confirm? if not how can I get it? would love to use Fusion key setup.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!

 

PATS & RKE ( Remote Keyless Entry ) are 2 different things.

It could be the RKE was not on the truck.

The other thing, keep trying, it took me 3 times to get into RKE programming mode on my 2001, and I thought I did it the same all 3 times ( obviously the 1st 2 times I did not do it correct ).

The other quick visual check is to see if you have the RAP ( Remote AtiTheft Personality ) module under the dash.

Note parking brake to the left side of the picture. Driver's side floor.


Looking up behind dash.
Left side of picture is the ratchet mech for the parking brake.
The white box about center top of the picture ( behind the wire harnesses ) is the RAP module. It will have a 5 digit code on it ( the factory code for the door keypad ).


If you have this, you have the RAP module, and will have the RKE option.

 

Will check it out in the AM.
Thanks for the pics.

 

I currently have 2 PATS keys, and only one remote FOB.

Bought a new "flip" key (with the remote buttons), programmed the new key, no problem, truck starts with all 3 keys.......

However, when I try to program the new "flip" key remote, it will only program 1 remote......not both. Do I need 2 remote FOBS and the new one to program?

I can program the new FOB OR the old FOB, but not both.......
I'm obviously doing something wrong, but I don't know what!

THX!

 

^ do you have the heritage or nbs??