Changed Spark Plugs, DIRT???
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Changed Spark Plugs, DIRT???
I changed the spark plugs in my 4.6L today. I tried to blow out the dirt as much as possible.
I believe that some dirt got down the plug hole inside the motor. A couple of the holes were hard to even get a lot of air down them. I would assume that it just blew out the exhaust, I hope I did not damage my cylinder walls.
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't everything from that area go directly out the exhaust manifold....
I believe that some dirt got down the plug hole inside the motor. A couple of the holes were hard to even get a lot of air down them. I would assume that it just blew out the exhaust, I hope I did not damage my cylinder walls.
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't everything from that area go directly out the exhaust manifold....
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Maybe... Some. Damage is done right away, -after firing it up. Sand grains/dirt and metal shavings are the worst thing to leave in the cylinders. Cylinder walls, pistons, rings, valves and seats all take a hit. Just once and it will never be the same.
You have to clean the plug chambers out very well. Compressed air and a fairly long pick to break it up along the bottom. - I vacuum out the cylinders anyway before installing a plug. It's easy , only takes a second or two.
You have to clean the plug chambers out very well. Compressed air and a fairly long pick to break it up along the bottom. - I vacuum out the cylinders anyway before installing a plug. It's easy , only takes a second or two.
#3
Yea. During the R&R of my swap I made a small rubber hose attachment to my vacuum to clean out the cylinders. Even though I blew them all out and cleaned them as best as possible before removing the plugs. There was sand present just about everywhere on the engine I bought so I took every precaution to make sure not a single grain was left behind. I'm with jbrew and say that damage can happen even with the smallest of particles. May not be immediate catastrophic damage but more of a long term effect. Take the extra time next time and clean them out better with a small scraper or pick.
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Maybe... Some. Damage is done right away, -after firing it up. Sand grains/dirt and metal shavings are the worst thing to leave in the cylinders. Cylinder walls, pistons, rings, valves and seats all take a hit. Just once and it will never be the same.
You have to clean the plug chambers out very well. Compressed air and a fairly long pick to break it up along the bottom. - I vacuum out the cylinders anyway before installing a plug. It's easy , only takes a second or two.
You have to clean the plug chambers out very well. Compressed air and a fairly long pick to break it up along the bottom. - I vacuum out the cylinders anyway before installing a plug. It's easy , only takes a second or two.
I would think that considering how much, being a few grains of sand in a couple of the cylinders would not do much damage. Wouldn't it just blow out the exhaust??? I tried to blow out the cylinders as much as possible but when I pulled out the plugs there was some sand on the threads of the old plugs so I would assume that a little sand went down into the heads....
#5
Yea. During the R&R of my swap I made a small rubber hose attachment to my vacuum to clean out the cylinders. Even though I blew them all out and cleaned them as best as possible before removing the plugs. There was sand present just about everywhere on the engine I bought so I took every precaution to make sure not a single grain was left behind. I'm with jbrew and say that damage can happen even with the smallest of particles. May not be immediate catastrophic damage but more of a long term effect. Take the extra time next time and clean them out better with a small scraper or pick.
#6
I think it will be fine. It should suck it up in the exhaust stroke. But no one will know for sure. I know i had alittle sand in #8 on my truck when i changed the plugs i blew most of it out but it was so hard to get to and i didnt have compressed air. I probly didnt get all of it. I havent noticed any difference still runs perfect. Im sure as long as its not metal shavings and rocks it will be alright. The 4.6 is a strong motor. Dont worry about it we all make mistakes just remember to blow out the holes next time.
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I think it will be fine. It should suck it up in the exhaust stroke. But no one will know for sure. I know i had alittle sand in #8 on my truck when i changed the plugs i blew most of it out but it was so hard to get to and i didnt have compressed air. I probly didnt get all of it. I havent noticed any difference still runs perfect. Im sure as long as its not metal shavings and rocks it will be alright. The 4.6 is a strong motor. Dont worry about it we all make mistakes just remember to blow out the holes next time.
So this morning I pulled all of the COP's. There was not any dirt down them, I blew them out with compressed air and pulled the plugs out and I am glad that I did. There was a couple that were a little loose, one plug I could turn out without a ratchet, just was hand tight.
I wiped all of the antiseaze off of the plugs, now I can see why people say not to use it. . I then inserted some vacuum line attached to a shop vac down the holes just to make sure that there was nothing in there. I put some dielectric grease in the COP and around the top of it where it meets the head to attempt to keep a little dirt out of the holes.
I have it down to a science now, I can get the COP's and Plugs out and back in in about 1.25 hours. I am planning on pulling the COP's again in a few months to check the torque of the plugs. I am always just a little gentle tighting the plugs in an aluminum head. I did wrench them a little more this time so they do not loosen up.
Is there a torque spec? I would assume this is how the plugs blow out of the motor, they loosen a little and then when only a few threads are remaining they blow out...Hate aluminum...
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