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Sorry!

 

Ok so not every Mustang owner that replaces their 4.6 with a 5.4 is into racing.

Right, anyway that is not the issue here. A truck is a truck and will never be a Mustang.
I want a manifold for my truck that fits my truck without adapter plates or plenums to make it fit. Simple. I am not adapting a Mustang manifold to my truck.

 

The "CART WAS PUT IN FRONT OF THE HORSE", introducing this part to begin with. I am interested, BUUUUTTTT!, (I hate repeating junk that has been beat into the ground already) this is an F-150 site. Am I right? The "DEMO" should have been tested, before introduced to the consumer. BOTTOM LINE!

It is being done now, PEOPLE HAVE SAID THEY ARE WAITING ON RESULTS, PATIENTLY.

Attitudes need not be brought into the MIX. People often times get mad when someone disagrees with what they say and get defensive. Most of the time, a simple "BLACKING OUT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS" (BTW, are you going to mail them to yourself to need the address on the print out? WTF!), or "MAKING AND TESTING THE DEMO ON THE PRODUCT WE OWN" would cure the problem to beging with.

This thread should be killed for the lack of common sense of the thread starter. The cart doesn't go, in front of the horse. Never has and never will! I know the BUT, BUT, BUT, will come. If the main interest was there to begin with, we would have had the demo made and tested it FIRST! ON A TRUCK!!!!!!

 

guys no matter how it was recieved the interest for this intake originally came from the mustang people swapping in the 5.4 engine and just like with the pushrod engines, people are gonna use the same parts on both cars and trucks if they work well.

I am going to test this intake and ensure the "kit" for use on an F-150 involves no major mods and can be a bolt in performance piece truck and mustang and van people can all enjoy.

The actual 5.4 intake doesn't use any adapter plates and I also agree it should improve the power band r3dn3ck showed with his 4.6 intake on a 5.4 using adapter plates which slow down the air entering the ports on the heads.

When i get the intake I am going to start testing it with my truck returned to 100% stock (except for the mileage and tranny mods) and if there is anyone interested in coming to central Texas to see if first hand I will post a seperate link so people can come see it in action on the street and form his/her own opinion. My test results will be made available to HPSas well as pictures of my install so they can help others with the swap.

if any one has any questions or requests feel free to PM me or email me, I will relay all info to Bob at HPS and I just want ot reenterate that I am not involved with HPS in any other way than purchasing and testing this intake for myself and I am going to share my info with everyone here. I am a private 3rd party interested in performance mods for my truck. from my experience in automotive things this intake looks like a good way to improve driveability of our trucks. Yes I have 5.4's but my testing will hopefully allow bolt in use of the 4.6 intake on F-150's as well so then no one is left out in the cold except the 24 valve guys


I too am waiting patiently for my intake to arrive and when it does

 

Thanks again for doing this.

 

Go back and look at my only reply. It's the wrong way to begin a market and expect not to generate flak.
Iv'e seen it happen before, on other boards, it's not a new situation.
Doing it this way has already generated to much negitive.
Why keep going this way just for principle fighting.
You can't change it!.
I hope it's a sucess but never believe it will be enough power gain just working on an airlow basis until cams are changed to make use of any extra airflow.

 

+1

 

Then you aren't a potential customer, good luck finding someone to build you that...


Hopefully cams won't be necessary, but my fear is that people are expecting to bolt one on a bone stock truck and gain 20-30 peak hp, which is ridiculous. All the calls for testing on a stock truck are off base, an intake manifold isn't the first thing you'd do on any engine, and that test would therefore not be representative. An intake usually falls in line at the end of the bolt-on stage, after you've addressed inlet, exhaust, tuning, pulleys, e-fans, etc... I'd like to see results on a bone stock truck just for information sake, but whats really needed is one with a full complement of the easy bolt-ons, at which point the natural progression for ease of installation would be to look at an intake manifold. I don't know the state of tarajerame's truck, hopefully it falls in there but doesn't look like it from his profile, in which case a better test subject should be found. All those hollering "tarajerame will show us the way!" are likely barking up the wrong tree simply because the guy is a member here. Its amazing to see the difference in perception and treatment between someone who's a member and someone considered an "outsider".......if someone with ~500 posts had started the exact same thread as r3dn3ck I daresay the results might have been quite a bit different....

Back to trucks, mine is past the bolt-on stage with home ported heads and higher compression, still running stock cams but not the ideal test setup thats really needed to evaluate this product. The heads aren't doing that much without changing the cams, but a better subject can be found for the main testing.

 

Sorry Roush but we were told that they were making one for the trucks which implies no adapters etc. If it is made for the truck there is nothing to adapt because it fits the trucks. This is not a Mustang forum

 

I agree and that would be my plan as well. We still want stock testing for a baseline. If the manifold adds nothing before or after all the other bolt ons then there is no point in developing it.

Exactly.
Wrong, he would receive the same treatment if he acted the same way. R3dn3ck deserved the treatment he got.

I volunteer my truck for any testing.

 

This whole thread should be deleted. Now you are admitting that it won't do much unless a bunch of mods are done to the engine to reap the full benefit. So does this mean that Jerame wasted his money? Maybe if redneck had done a back to back run with the stock intake and then the new one he would not have come off as such a moron. I really don't care if you put it on a lawn mower or a blown 5.4 with stage 3 heads and high lift cams. I want to see one run with the stock intake manifold for a baseline on any engine, modded or not, then bolt on the new intake and see what the gains are. How hard is it to switch manifolds?
When you Ftards get your heads out of your ***** come back and show us what you got.

JMC

PS. I wonder if the manufacturer knows what a bang up job you two idiots are doing for them......

 

Funny how it only took 11 pages and 248 posts for that information to come up.

And Roush, nobody here has "tare...will show us the way" attitude. But please, do continue to follow down the same path r3dn3ck was going down. As you can tell, it's really helping your cause.

Now on to the results......

 

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
JMC you are the SHIZNIZZLE

I've got tears in my eyes. Thanks for a great start to the morning.

 

+1

I can't believe how much ink has been spilled here over something that doesn't exist.

 

This was covered many pages ago. Someone, I think tarajerame, made a comment that the intake was being redesigned for truck use, which as far as I know is not the case. It was designed from the beginning for fitment of a 5.4 2v in a Mustang chassis. During the design some tweaks were made to make it a better crossover to truck use, but there is no "truck version". That means it has the Mustang t.b. elbow shape, and it also measures a little under 2" shorter than the F150 PI intake as its designed to clear the hood in a Mustang. Therefore, you will need either an adapter for the truck t.b. elbow, or a new elbow that faces forward but has the Mustang flange shape at the manifold.


So very hard to follow simple logic, huh big fella?

Would you install cams as the very first mod on a truck? No? Why not? Because it doesn't make sense you ****stick! Therefore, try to follow the very basic logic here, if you were going to dyno test cams you wouldn't do it on a bone stock vehicle. You would do it in the order of mods that made sense, with proper supporting hardware in place or your tests wouldn't mean jack ****. If you tested the cams on a bone stock vehicle and the gains were minimal (which they would be) does that tell you the cams don't work? NO, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T TEST THEM PROPERLY.

Can you follow that? I have my doubts.....

On what? He hasn't bought anything.... What I said was if his truck doesn't have a full complement of the bolt-ons it isn't the best test candidate. Again, awefully simple but perhaps beyond you....


Which is exactly what the plan is! How could you possibly have come up with anything else? Your dumbass rant doesn't even make sense....

You and your nut swingers must be having a grand old time down there at the bottom of the bell curve....

I don't think it takes too much common sense to tell you such a part will work better and better with a higher level of modifications, however, the hope is that it will work well at the bolt-on stage (again, after other logical things have been done first).

B.S. There have been many replies along the line of "we'll have all the answers once tj gets one to test.... " I'm not saying he shouldn't test it, I just want to see a test on a properly outfitted subject.



For those skimming or low on comprehension skills..... I am not HPS.... I am not trying to sell intakes..... I think there is a real need for a performance intake manifold for the 5.4 engine and I'm excited to see one close to market. In an effort to speed the ability of F150 owners (most notably myself) to use this intake I went ahead and designed an adapter to transition the F150 t.b. elbow shape to the Mustang shape on the intake. Outside of that I have nothing invested in this issue aside from wanting to see more power out of these engines. Do I want one? Yes. Will I get one for testing? I have no idea, nor any say in it. If I don't whoever does will still likely need the adapter I designed unless they are going to custom fab something, an F150 specific elbow would be far down the road right now *if* there is enough market to support it.

That is all, will respond now to direct, sensible questions only, otherwise will just join the wait to see if the product proves itself out.