Might as well close this now if it is not designed for an F150. This is an F150 forum not a Mustang forum. Maybe some manufacturer will step up to the plate and provide a truck manifold for trucks.

 

I've bene talking to Bob at HPS, as far right now the truck throttle body will be bolted right onto the intakes upper elbow

I originally posted that I thought it would be a redesigned intake for the F-150 but only the upper elbow is going to be different.

I understand erveryone wanting to whine like little babies and put down this intake...

KNOCK IT OFF and wait patiently for my results to be posted (I cannot test the intake until it arrives on my door step, and I can't post gains and performance numbers untilI get to test it.) NOW quit whining and stop posting crap on this thread about how worthless this intake will be, you don't know anything, and unless you have something intellegent to say don't say it. IF YOU DON'T WANT THIS INTAKE, SHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe some of us do and are willing to act grown up about this waiting game until I get the intake and post some results.


AGAIN I AM SAYING!!!!!!! I will post results as soon as possible but unless you have results to back up your crying about how bad this intake sucks then don't post how bad it sucks unless you can post proof.

 

Do you blame us? You and r3 were the ones touting this new intake and yet not a straight answer was to be had out of either of you. Note all the flak you and r3 are getting around here.

The nutswinger comment was a nice touch.

Properly outfitted you mean a truck possibly? You mean what the market place originally scouted out for this intake? If it didn't really matter what type of vehicle the testing took place ( one of your own points ) why not just test it on a modded Mustang and actually come here advertising the product AFTER the testing as taken place with some actual #'s.

Instead all we heard how we were to e-mail HPS out of "interest" for an untested intake with no other information about stock or modified application need only apply.

You guys definetly need to get your s**t together.

Around here, "we" work with what information we are given. What does that say for your marketing.........

Why aren't YOU testing one? If you have designed this elbow adaptor already why wouldn't you test it?

 

What I have been writing all along but you don't seem to be able to comprehend: Add your toys/mods to the engine then run a back to back dyno with the stock manifold on the toys then install the new intake and run it. Has anyone done this yet? Come back when it is done.

JMC

 

HI!... IMO this thread is useless. Every manufacturer out there always does stock vs. their products comparison. Not, here's our product and every bolt on imaginable!

This whole thing was done WRONG from the start........ period. I know as a consumer, there is no way in hell I'll buy this intake due to the advertising sales pitch here. The LOGAN intake rules for a race application anyways, so that's what I'll be going with.

 

I am a truck guy and I will be testing the intake on a street driven truck.

according to Bob @ HPS the truck "kit" will be a direct bolt in piece. The 5.4 and 4.6 are different intakes as the 5.4 is wider than the 4.6. the mustang "kits" will have the passenger side facing inlet and the truck "kits" will have a truck elbow with the inlet facing forward so even the stock air inlet tubes will be useable as far as I know.

like I said before if anyone wants to come see it in action or lend a hand completing the swap I will start a new thread once i get the intake in hand from HPS (who isn't in a hurry, or so it doens't seem that way anyway) and then we will be able to see the difference

 

how far is kileen from cypress?

 

3 hours/ 166 miles

(you live near houston not dallas right???)

 

For definition of said nutswinger see idiotic reply to idiotic post in #253....

I really don't know how I could have stated it any more clearly just above (and several times). By "properly outfitted" I mean a truck that has the bolt-ons installed that one would typically install before you would purchase a new intake manifold. What's so hard to understand there? You wouldn't do an intake manifold as a first modification, so don't test one on a bone stock vehicle as so many have called for. See also: cam example in post above....

I said I don't know if I will be testing it, if they'd like me to I would be happy to, and would provide before/after dyno results. I also very clearly stated many times that the intake, as cast, will not bolt onto a truck motor. I want one on my motor, therefore I took steps to make it so that, when the opportunity arises, I will be able to do so. I didn't design it for HPS, I designed it for me. If it turns into something that can help others all the better....


How many times does it need to be said that such results are coming, but not until the first batch are cast? R3dn3ck simply posted his own results in the meantime because he thought folks might find it interesting to see how much power his own 5.4 build was putting down, not as a substitute for truck testing. Anyone building a 5.4 should be interested to see what another 5.4 build is putting down for power, the basic parts are all the same, but instead of any kind of intelligent discussion or comments people ripped off his head and pissed down his neck....nice job folks




Yes, the truck "kit" at some point would include a new forward facing t.b. elbow casting. As of a couple weeks ago when I spoke to Bob, zero work had been done to even begin the planning of said elbow. With the complexity of such a casting including getting the mounts for egr, tubes, throttle cable, etc... designed into it I can safely predict it will be months before such a piece will be available. Hence the effort in the meantime to create an adapter plate that will make it a quick and easy bolt-on for trucks as soon as a casting is available....

 

Nothing. The whole point is that this stipulation regarding the testing and information of required modifications to see the benefits of this intake were introduced to everyone here WELL AFTER the recruiting of e-mails with "adoptors" to "get in line" for said intake.

Cart infront of the horse.....

So why didn't you get inline to "adopt" one? If you went thru the time to design an elbow to get it to work on a (your) truck. Wouldn't the logical thing to do is test if with the intended intake?

Only if the price is right correct?

So in Tarajerme's case, you will be providing your designed elbow for testing? Seeing you don't seem to eager to test this setup on your own truck and without a complete "kit". ( ie, adaptor plate ) it could be months as you state before anything is finished.

I'm assuming that a casting of the intake will be available before the adaptor plate. Correct?

 

Adopters? Aside from not being a word, no one was EVER asked to "adopt", i.e. "commit to" anything. Just asked to express interest to help judge the size of a potential market. A very simple concept that has somehow been twisted into something completely different... There are no downpayments, no commitments to a place in line or anything else, nothing of the kind was ever asked for.

More assumptions pulled from thin air... I told Bob I'd be happy to test it for him. I have no idea if he will take me up on that or not.

You got me.....my grand plan is take so much money off the poor suckers of F150online that I can retire and sit home drinking appletinis and watching Oprah.... Was there any reason to throw that comment out? Have I tried to take advantage of someone? Depending on how things go I may just give the cnc files to someone to produce, I really don't know, and it makes no difference at this point.....

Quite possibly. He won't be testing it any time soon without something of the sort or other custom fabrication.

Again, more comments based on absolutely nothing. Show me any place I said anything even remotely resembling "I don't want to test the intake myself" or "not without a complete kit". What I said, if you are referring back to a few posts ago and were actually capable of comprehending the written word, is that my own truck is not representative of the ideal truck to show test results that would be relevant to the majority of the market. I said the ideal test truck would have a level of modification that would match where the average potential buyer would be at the point where they would/should consider an intake manifold as the next logical step. I never said anything about not wanting to test it without a "complete kit" either, in fact, I've said the exact opposite that the reason I created an adapter for the current elbow was to be able to bolt one on as soon as they are available. Somehow by the time its gone through your brain and out your fingers you've turned it into the exact opposite of what has been said....

Good lord man, my caveat in post above of "for those low on comprehension skills" could have just been directed at you.....you seem completely incapable or reading and assimilating basic straightforward information without twisting it or just flat out adding things that were never there to start with.....maybe you could try reading things a 2nd, maybe 3rd time before you start firing off responses... I'm trying real hard to say that conversationally instead of overly insulting, but damn......

One, says who? Two, who cares? I could run one by the end of the week if I had reason to, but without any casting available to bolt it to what would be the point? Its designed, a piece of material has been acquired, I'll get around to making one when I have time or when its needed...

 

correct. im right outside of houston

 

Roush, your attitude certainly isn't helping move this thread in a positive direction. Can you answer questions without nutswinger or reading comprehension insults? Stick to the facts and drop the condescending attitude. If someone misunderstood you just explain it again in a different manner rather than insulting their reading skills. None of us are perfect and we can all learn from each other.
Lets just agree that there is no point attacking each other over a product that isn't even finished and tested yet.

 

Well, for one, you accusing me of assumptions it quite ironic seeing that all we have had to work with here. As quoted from your right hand man....

"We're looking for people that are interested in being early adopters to speak up now so Bob will know how many to make. Please let me know with an email to cburnss at gmail dawt com or by reply to this thread if you plan to pick one up as soon as they're available. Again, you are not committing to anything. I just need to give bob a guess of how many need to be in the first run."

And if you read my last reply regarding this, I don't state ANYTHING about having to buy it. I was just taking it from the context it was used. ( or assumed )

I think that lack of comprehension comment you made is coming back to kick you in the a**. If you read again, it would seem I have asked a question or two, asumptions hardly.

Once again, a question posed to you. Feel free to be a smart a** and turn this into a much bigger p**sing contest than it should be. Gee, I might have actually given you props for maybe having your design go into production.

Holy crap! A straight answer!

Once again, please, feel free to turn this into a much bigger p**sing contest than required. Last time I checked, more people want this thread deleted than are interested in this intake.

Kudo's

Wow, read again, I was asking a question. A simple yes, or no would have been fine. But please, continue to bi**h.

I think your coming down with the R3dn3ck "everyone is out to get me" syndrome.

 

Any chance of deleting this thread? Still, like stated before, putting the cart in front of the horse. Or better yet explained as a pi**ing contest.

The people PUSHING THIS PRODUCT, need not post till they have tested the results. I believe, one fella has said he is going to do this "TEST", (as soon as he gets the part!) (again, cart in fron of the horse, but, what can ya do?)

Neither do anyone else need to be posting till they read the test results. We are plowing under a field of corn that hasn't even had a chance to sprout.

IN TURN, if this part will not bolt to an F-150, no adapters, nothing, strait up bolt it on and go, you need not advertise it here. We already have plenty of resources to buy products, that, will work with adapters and what not!