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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by LightningTuner
Your posts keep eluding to there being something wrong with the truck when Rob had it. There was nothing wrong with the truck when Rob had it, or when Ed had it before him. It made great power, and ran perfect.
eluding is what you do when the police are chasing you. It was perfect and made great power right up to the point where someone broke it.... eh?

It's nice to see you stepping up Sal but were you actually there on the last day the truck was sold..... if not you really can't say what was or was not wrong with the truck. Correct?
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RustySocket
eluding is what you do when the police are chasing you.
Wow, getting picky about almost homophones on the forums eh? Sal obviously meant "alluding", not "eluding".
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RustySocket
eluding is what you do when the police are chasing you. It was perfect and made great power right up to the point where someone broke it.... eh?

It's nice to see you stepping up Sal but were you actually there on the last day the truck was sold..... if not you really can't say what was or was not wrong with the truck. Correct?
Well the truck is bring worked on as we speak, I should hear something either today or Monday, hopefully. I am soooooooooooo curious to know what went wrong. Does not make any kind of sense to me what would have gone wrong only after an 800 mi trip home and 60ish miles are town here at home.
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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Well the truck is bring worked on as we speak, I should hear something either today or Monday, hopefully. I am soooooooooooo curious to know what went wrong. Does not make any kind of sense to me what would have gone wrong only after an 800 mi trip home and 60ish miles are town here at home.
Your right, and I hope you get it sorted out as I would be frustrated as hell my self. Someone beat on your truck, the question is who? As many have said, trucks don't just break themselves while sitting.... unless they don't have proper coolant in them and something freezes solid, which is probably not the case as well.

good luck to you.
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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Wow, getting picky about almost homophones on the forums eh? Sal obviously meant "alluding", not "eluding".
Didn't really mean that the way it appeared... I just had this mental pic of Rob running from the cops...
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Your right, and I hope you get it sorted out as I would be frustrated as hell my self. Someone beat on your truck, the question is who? As many have said, trucks don't just break themselves while sitting.... unless they don't have proper coolant in them and something freezes solid, which is probably not the case as well.

good luck to you.
Thanks Rusty...

It is very frustrating, and getting worse everyday. I made sure that I was watching the gauges all the way home to, watching for over-heating.. etc...
What is even more frustrating is that I DID NOTHING wrong... drove it like I would any other daily driver.
I also have a 01 VW GTI with about 400 ponies in her which I put a blower on, and never ever have had any problems after about 60,000 mi on the blower. So I am well aware of the " ins and outs " of owning a vehicle with high-performance.
I don't beat my vehicles or rag on them in any way, shape, or manner. I am getting irritated over this.. especially when there are innuendo's that I did something to it. Ugh..
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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Wow

Sorry to hear. **** happens. If I was you, I'd be mad at the world, but deep down inside, you have to know that when you buy a vehicle like this, it's a chance. Not because of what Rob, or Ed or Sal has done with it, but because it's a perfomance vehicle built out of mis matching parts that have never been proven to work together long terms under numberous types of conditions. From your post, you seem to understand that which is nice to see. Everyone always thinks they are getting screwed.

Now, as far as the failure, one of the things that popped up in my mind was.......what were you using for fuel? Maybe you got a bad batch of fuel and while driving, that motor was detonating badly and led to a block fracture?

I'm guessing the major damage wasn't done on the ride home because he would have experienced the no start condition after trying to restart it when he was home. Something happened between getting home, and getting to the tire place. Maybe something in the electronics with the alarm place led to a failure.

Was there any codes on the computer? Did anyone check?

Is the intercooler pump working?

Will be interesting to hear. Good luck with what you do. Sound like you have a good mechanic. Ship in a short block and have him throw it together for you. The upside is the engine technology has changed from even 3 years ago on these motors. You could end up with something even better, but you still are paying for it.
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tallimeca
Sorry to hear. **** happens. If I was you, I'd be mad at the world, but deep down inside, you have to know that when you buy a vehicle like this, it's a chance. Not because of what Rob, or Ed or Sal has done with it, but because it's a perfomance vehicle built out of mis matching parts that have never been proven to work together long terms under numberous types of conditions. From your post, you seem to understand that which is nice to see. Everyone always thinks they are getting screwed.

Now, as far as the failure, one of the things that popped up in my mind was.......what were you using for fuel? Maybe you got a bad batch of fuel and while driving, that motor was detonating badly and led to a block fracture?

I'm guessing the major damage wasn't done on the ride home because he would have experienced the no start condition after trying to restart it when he was home. Something happened between getting home, and getting to the tire place. Maybe something in the electronics with the alarm place led to a failure.

Was there any codes on the computer? Did anyone check?

Is the intercooler pump working?

Will be interesting to hear. Good luck with what you do. Sound like you have a good mechanic. Ship in a short block and have him throw it together for you. The upside is the engine technology has changed from even 3 years ago on these motors. You could end up with something even better, but you still are paying for it.
Well at this time its only speculation as to what happened. Alarm? Inner cooler pump? Bad rods? Just a failure in the head gasket? Over heating? ... no matter what it was or is.. I am going to get it repaired on the recommendation of my mechanic. He is an awesome guy who really knows his "stuff", he has built many many motors with blowers, etc... So he says not to worry he will find it and tell me what happened.
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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Yes my point IS.. the truck was NOT running after I shut it off in the parking lot @ the Tire place... We had to push it in the bay to put on the new tires.. then push it back out. It WOULD NOT start.. at all, so no way could they have driven it in the morning... or ANY other time for that matter.. Thats why I left it there, otherwise I WOULD have driven it HOME.. My Tow guy was there @ 8 am to pick it up.
Hey Chi, just curious... when you say it wouldn't start: do you mean it wouldn't turn over or it would turn over but wouldn't fire any of the plugs or would fire some plugs but not stay running or...

Knowing why it wouldn't start the day before might help determine what happened.
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Hey Chi, just curious... when you say it wouldn't start: do you mean it wouldn't turn over or it would turn over but wouldn't fire any of the plugs or would fire some plugs but not stay running or...

Knowing why it wouldn't start the day before might help determine what happened.

Well it would NOT turn over... "locked up" ... because of the hydro-lock... it would turn by hand backwards then lock again. So the anti-freeze in # 1, 2 cylinders kept it from turning. My mechanic said that if I never turned it off, it probably would have kept running, but because I did turn it off, allowed the anti-freeze to settle in the cylinder, hence.. locking it.
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown
Well it would NOT turn over... "locked up" ... because of the hydro-lock... it would turn by hand backwards then lock again. So the anti-freeze in # 1, 2 cylinders kept it from turning. My mechanic said that if I never turned it off, it probably would have kept running, but because I did turn it off, allowed the anti-freeze to settle in the cylinder, hence.. locking it.
Interesting, how long between when you shut it off and when you went to pull it in for the new tires?
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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Interesting, how long between when you shut it off and when you went to pull it in for the new tires?

Maybe 20 minutes? That is the weird thing.. no "signs" of a blown head gasket...
smoke out of the exhaust .. etc..
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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That is how my 99 died. Turned out to be a bad head casting. Fluid filled the cylinder after driving it home with no signs. Wouldn't turn over. After leaving it overnight, the fluid dripped pasted the rings and the truck would start but smoke white.
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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Thanks Rusty...

It is very frustrating, and getting worse everyday. I made sure that I was watching the gauges all the way home to, watching for over-heating.. etc...
What is even more frustrating is that I DID NOTHING wrong... drove it like I would any other daily driver.
I also have a 01 VW GTI with about 400 ponies in her which I put a blower on, and never ever have had any problems after about 60,000 mi on the blower. So I am well aware of the " ins and outs " of owning a vehicle with high-performance.
I don't beat my vehicles or rag on them in any way, shape, or manner. I am getting irritated over this.. especially when there are innuendo's that I did something to it. Ugh..
Cool to hear about the VW, I have a good buddy who spent the last four years building a Scirrocco, Im sure he'd love to talk with you. His car was featured on the cover of Eurotuner early last year. I have the scans in .jpg format if your interested PM me an email and I will forward them on.

Good luck getting the L sorted out. All mechanical things can be fixed. You just have to put lots of cash in a bucket and throw it in the wind once in a while...
 
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by brahmus
That is how my 99 died. Turned out to be a bad head casting. Fluid filled the cylinder after driving it home with no signs. Wouldn't turn over. After leaving it overnight, the fluid dripped pasted the rings and the truck would start but smoke white.

Wow! finally someone who has had the same experience.. !!! well close enough What was the final outcome of the motor? If I may ask..
 



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