new numbers should be here soon

i should be close to 10.5 by the end of the year

racing in december and january thats whats cool about california

 

your lucky man.. i wish i was out there right now.. itls like 45deg. windy and raining.. it sucks!!! im beginning to hate jersey.. but our gas prices dropped .25cents

 

To all,

I have been involved "hands on" with not only the use but also the invention and design of nitrous components / systems for approx. 25 years. I have fitted systems to 25cc mopeds right through to V16 supercharged and twin turbocharged 2 stroke diesel trucks.
My systems are used on the Drag strip by 1,000cc Streetbikes right through to 730 ci Pro Modified cars. So any comments about them only being suitable for 4 bangers is at best ill informed!!!!!

If anyone is still in doubt here is a link to my ProMod customers engine showing the same Pulsoids as supplied by Denny. This combo is unique in the world and can deliver an EXTRA 2,400 bhp if required (although we haven't run it on a dyno to prove it yet). The customer is happy with his 4.18 secs for the 1/8 and only a bad engine builder has stopped him doing better (the world record is 4.06 secs.
http://www.noswizard.com/images/gall.../new_motor.jpg


In response to individual posts on this thread;

Jim,
Wise words

Shocked,
Wise words, we're considering a similar option along with all others.

I-menace
Wise words

Mistergadget
Very wise words

Lightningquick
Wise words

2000L
Wise words

Rob,
Thanks for your continued support and just remember the numbers that matter are those with seconds after them not bhp.

Hostile,
Words fail me!!!


To all my customers who are happy with their results, thanks for the support and long may you continue to be happy.

To any customers who are unhappy with their results I apologise for your disappointment. I can assure you I will do everything within my power to find the solution and once I have it, I will supply all of you with whatever is required to give you the performance the systems should be delivering FREE OF CHARGE!!!!!
Please feel free to contact me and give me your experiences and result first hand.

Regards

Trev The WIZARD of NOS

 

Sal

It seems we need to talk and get this dispute resolved, as Denny has been trying to do since it started. Unfortunately I'm tied up with writing my book on nitrous right now and have a publishers deadline to meet in a weeks time, so Denny has had to do his best without me.

Please read below my responses to some of the points you have posted on this thread.

Different engines respond differently to nitrous oxide.
Every component (and every change of component) will affect the end result of adding nitrous oxide to a given engine.
Therefore in one respect Denny is right to say that the nitrous system is not to blame for the lack of results, because if you took the kit off your customers truck and fitted it to some other car it would almost certainly make better numbers.

However if as you say you have a customer who has used 2 different systems on the same truck (with both having been fitted, set up and tuned correctly) and one system gave better results than the other, then you are right to conclude that one system is not producing the goods. That doesn't mean however that the system that under performed is of inferior quality and that it can't be modified to perform even better than the best one on the day (as I believe you've suggested).

Despite my 25 years of experience I am puzzled by the poor results you've had and I'm as keen as anyone to determine the cause of the problem. One thing I can say for sure is that the problem will be something very minor and will be something that can easily be corrected, because we know from results on other vehicles that under normal conditions our systems do produce the better results than other kits.

We have a number of independent tests that prove this point and I'll gladly forward or post links to threads where this is proven.

It's very difficult to resolve such a problem having such a big puddle between us but if you are willing to work with me on this matter, I'll do my best to resolve it with you.

But before we attempt to do that I think we should clear up a few matters;
1) Flow through a jet is not just determined by the hole size but also the entry and exit angles as well as the length of the metering orifice. The only right way to compare any jets is by flow testing. By the way I don't know if an NX jet for a given power flows more or less than ours.

2) Dyno numbers are pointless in my opinion (unless you are just a dyno Queen), especially if the track results prove that one system produces quicker times than the other, despite having lower peak power. Peak power is employed for a very brief period of time on the track and contributes little to the ET. A broad torque band on the other hand will produce quicker ET's, so when I use a dyno I'm only interested in measuring the torque and I'm not concerned about the peak bhp numbers.

3) As you say MPH does indicate peak power but MPH doesn't win Drag races.

4) Our nylon line is made to the highest specification in the world and will not melt, chaf, burst or blow off, UNLESS it is fitted incorrectly. It's wrong to blame the nylon pipe if it's not fitted in such a way that it avoids heat and if the retaining nuts are not tightened enough.

5) We concede the fuel seal issue but this is old history and was resolved within a month affecting fewer than 5 customers.

6) Nozzle location / length could well be an issue on the Lightning but the Crossfire design certianly isn't inferior to any other nozzle. The length may be affecting results as you suggest but again that has nothing to do with the unique design. The Crossfire is the only nozzle in the world with 2 nitrous outlets and this is a huge advantage over single outlet types. The truth is the Crossdire is superior for a number of reasons which I will gladly state if required.

Now that's all out of the way, can we work together to resolve this problem and if so can you please forward me your email address (to wizard@noswizard.com) so I can contact you direct.


Regards

Trev The WIZARD of NOS

 

Now that is the kind of response weshould expect from our vendors. No mud slinging, abit of background, and a willingness to solve a problem.
Well done Noswizard. I look forward to new findings.
Jim

 

AGREED!!


this is one educational pissing match though.

 

Hey JackA$$ i cant help but speak of the truth and what i saw with my own two eyes.. words only fail you beacuse i am too much of a unique individual who believes in quality.. and your partner racetested came out being the biggest A$$hole on this forum.. he blamed everyone but his own product.. and everyone knows that dyno numbers result in power, tuning is the key essential for the life and efficiency of an engine.. and especially when running NOS or race fuel.. youll never know what your vehicle is performing like unless it is tuned properly.. and if your kit claims 100hp and on the dyno the customer sees 70hp or something like that im using numbers as an example, then your kit did not make the expectations of the buyer as the company states it would perform.. i tell it how i see it.. the dyno proves results in hp gains.. and according to Sal who is also my tuner it just doesnt want to work.. Sal has made many attempts to help your product sell and perform better... take him up on the offer instead of racetested calling him out to a 10,000 dollar challenge.. racetested get a life will ya, Sal is a professional that has a business to run, and is pretty busy, especially when he is trying to fix your products faults..

 

Nitrous power levels are theoretical and can't be an exact science since every motor combination is different. You could spray a 100 shot in a basic NA motor and make 50hp, spray in a turbo motor and make 200hp, change the cams and the power changes again. So do we take the highest figures from the turbo motor and say we have a 200shot kit and disappoint the other combinations or call it a 50shot kit and look amazing on a turbo as you make 200hp?

 

you just clarified everything Sal is explaining to you about your kits not working for our engines. like Sal said, they may work for a 4cyl, and motorcycles, but they are not cutting it for our "L"s.. give Sal a chance and work with the guy to help make your kits better.. i hear nothing but good about your solenoids from Sal and others as well. but its the other parts of the kit they are not liking as well as the hp rating.. im a big aftermarket fanatic, and every year i go and fly out to Vegas for the SEMA show and make a ton of friends and acquaintances. i come home with all types of product information, i love the aftermarket and love new products. Work with Sal on making your kit better, and when i do my new engine i will consult with Sal and if he recommends me to purchase your kit because it is top dog then i will, i put only the best on my ride i believe in spending the money and do it once and do it right. Sal is obviously interested in helping you, especially when he has customers with your kits on there rides. work with him to make your system what you and everyone else expects it to be.. i wish you luck on your product, and hope you work with Sal..

 

I concur!

 

Trevor, I appreciate your mature response to this situation, and I would love to help you guys get the issues resolved. I have been behind your kits since day one, but my feedback on them to Denny has resulted in the same responses you see here.

I have worked with many manufacturers to help them "better" their product for use on the Lightnings. Most are very open minded an appreciative that someone who has much more experiance with a certain vehicle could help them better their product when they just don't have the time or experiance to commit to one specific vehicle. However, in this case, I have gotten the opposite, and have been told I don't know what I am talking about, and that you guys know it all and if something needed to be redesigned it would already be like that.

The fact is, there are issues with using this kit on the Lightning, and I am trying to help resolve them for you guys. Denny makes it sound like I am the only one who has had issues, and that it's just 2 or 3 trucks, and that's BS. Other vendors have had similar issues, and other customers have had unsatisfactory results. This is not just something that has to do with "me". If you read all the posts, you'll see that Denny "explains" the reasons behind why this or that didn't work or failed. That right there is proof that things need addressing.

I would LOVE to help you guys make the kits more "Lightning friendly". I tried to do that when I first started dealing with Denny. I asked him to change a few things about the kit I didn't like (for being used on the Lightning) and I was going to make a Lightning "specific" kit, with our own brackets to mount everything cleanly and so forth. But even back then, my suggestions were blown off and I was told I was wrong, so that ended that idea. Now, after time has passed, some of those issues I was trying to address have proven to be legit issues, and STILL I get the same attitude about addressing them.

If you want to contact me via e-mail, that's fine. It's powersurgeperf@aol.com. However, after the way Denny has handled himself in this issue, and the fact I'd b dealing with him as the US dist for your products, I will most likely no longer want to deal with your kits. Sorry.

 

Sal has spoken!

God Bless,

Suavy

 

Finally some sense after 7 pages

 

Sal,

Thanks for your prompt response, I will indeed contact you by email but just to finalise matters for the rest of the guys that have been following this thread, I'd like to say the following;

1) As far as I'm aware there are only 2 or 3 Lightning's with poor results and these are only on the dyno and don't seem to be supported by any track results.
To ensure I have all the available information on this matter I emplore any customer who is not happy with their results to contact me at wizard@noswizard.com with full details of their vehicle spec, nitrous system spec and any performance results they have had. Some pics of the engine and any other shots of the pipe work etc would be a bonus.
This request also applies to ANY unhappy customer about any aspect of my systems on any vehicle.

2) Sadly at present I haven't got time to read every post of this VERY LONG thread (it took me 2 hours to skip read and deal with the last 5 pages alone) but I'm sure that whatever Denny has said relating to the "factual" matters of my systems will be correct, because we've discussed this matter many times and he's soaked up everything I've been able to offer him on it. He may not have delivered it in a manner that suits everyone or in the way I may have done it myself but at least you know where you stand with a guy like Denny and he's not going to whisper sweet things in your ear and then beat up on you behind your back.

3) With regard to general nitrous system / component design I'm 100% confident that my current products deliver the best overall value for money that any nitrous system can offer. However until I know the cause of the poor results, I'm willing to concede that one or more minor aspects of the system are not "suited" to the Lightning as they currently stand.

4) Whatever it takes, I will do and work with anything and anyone to resolve this matter as I hate unsolved puzzles and this one has currently got me beat. I want a solution not only to make my customers happy but also for my own greater understanding of what is causing this problem.

5) It has to be a Lightning related problem as we've had no similar problems on any other vehicles and Johnny Barb (my ProMod customer) is making more power than he can handle. For example we recently had a customer switch from a NOS Fogger system to a direct replacement system and within space of ONE meeting he dropped his 1/4 times from 8.9secs to 8.3secs and that was using much less nitrous than he used to run the 8.9 pass. That was also a PB by 0.2 secs and at only his first race meet using my system with VERY SAFE soft settings (as Rob says "plenty left on the table").

Here is a link to a thread on my forum where the customer relates his experiences.
http://www.noswizard.com/bboard/view...d7947c03b34391

I'd like to suggest that before anyone rights off my systems based on the contents of this thread or any rumours of "numerous" failures, they call back here in a few days when hopefully I have heard from anyone who has had a problem and I'll be able to put a figure to the actual number and may also be able to offer a resolution to restore faith in my systems.

I'd also like to state for the record that while I have a grievance with Mike Woods (President of NX), about his handling of our business together, I have to say that in many respects NX products are superior to the rest of the main stream US nitrous kits. However their use of PTFE as a plunger seal is beyond belief and Mike Woods attitude towards the potential consequences of dirt embedding in it astonished me.

Having said that and having tested most nitrous products on the market, I can assure you all that my number one priority when I design a product is superior performance followed closely by superior quality and I don't like to fail at either.

Regards

Trev The WIZARD of NOS
Ps. Sal I'll be in touch ASAP (probably after the 5th November when my books finished).

 

Thanks Trevor, I look forward to talking with you.