It corrects for mods more than a chip ever well. Why hasn't anyone with a chip that is not burned for nitrous tried a 100+ shot?? Because it wouldn't go over very well.

If you still had your Lightning, maybe you could try this and show us just how similar chips and recalibrated PCMs are by performing this simple test...

 

Beef, for someone who no longer owns a Lightning, you sure are pressing this issue. Why dont you guys just let it go already. Neither one of you are going to win this debate in your own eyes.

 

Okay... I can't stand it anymore...

I know you are all just going to tell me that if I don't wanna see it or read it then don't open the thread... well that's a moot point because I've been checking the threads to see if there has been any intelligent information hidden between all the bickering.

My point is this: you are all (for the most part) acting like children constantly arguing over this topic while also insulting eachother at the same time... frankly it's getting quite annoying!!! Consider this...

TRY TO HAVE A CIVILIZED DISCUSSION!!!

If you can't achieve that simple goal then you may just want to consider not posting and continuing the argument...

...just a thought

Drew

 

my point really had nothing to do with the reflash, but since nate had to throw his .02 in...

my point was simple, truck adds timing in cold weather,

and cyntaxx, if i had a program burned to be as fat and probably low on timing as nate's i could add a hundred shot

 

Did you see his AFs for his non-nitrous dyno pulls? They weren't that fat. Most of the vendors on here tune for low 11s...yet how many would recommend a 100 shot without a reburn??

Hell, most recommend reburns for a 4-6lb. pulley swap.

Be honest with yourself Beefcake. Before reflashing PCMs hit this board, if someone came in here and asked about adding a 100 shot of nitrous to a truck with a chip that is not burned for it, how many people, including the tuners, would have said "get a reburn with a nitrous program."

 

guess i'm getting bored with this now too... too much contradicting going on, first, 12.4 isn't lean, now 10.9 isn't fat, what exactly is fat and what is lean? i know the answer.

all my chips were burned to be in the 11.7 range, race programs in the 11.4 range, and those were safe programs, my a/f was not changed at all for my nitrous program, only timing was pulled 3 degrees, that was the only, and i mean only difference between my race and nitrous programs. none of us see the timing nate is running so it's hard to know exactly what he has going on,

done changing the tranny fluid and filter, i'm off to bed

 

i'm not paying for anymore pulls unless i get a hell of a deal on them

 

Hell you shouldn't have to shoulder all of the cost to create info that is gonna help us all! I'm very excited about this new technology....well new to me anyway. I'm willing to throw in a Benjamin on your dyno! Just tell me where to send it!

 

I made a offer on the other thread but never got to read your response. Did you see it and are you willing to step up to the plate ?

 

What exactly was your offer Buzz?

 

I'll be making some pulls with my reflashed PCM if anybody wants to chip in as well.

 

12.4 is not lean for a recalibrated PCM. I believe someone has said this already. 10.9 on a dyno is pretty fat.

The point here is that Nate didn't order a nitrous program with pulled timing, fatter AFs, or anything that tried to account for the nitrous. He took a non-nitrous calibrated PCM, threw a 110 shot on there, and posted the results.

 

This thread is stupid. How does anyone expect the PCM to know about nitrous being on or off? It doesn't! Getting the AFR the same on a nitrous pull as it was on a non nitrous pull can certainly be done, but it has nothing to do with the PCM calibration. It would all be in the bottle pressure and jetting of the nitrous system, nothing else.

 

**** said that. 12.4 AF is 12.4 AF. How the heck does it mater if it's made by using a recalibrated PCM, a chip or anything else? Where do you come up with this?

Steve

 

Hey Im just going by what **** and others have said in various threads KDanner, Im under the assumption that this reflash is programmed to run the truck rich without the N20. When you add the N20, the program would natually lean out. That is why Nates non N20 pulls were so fat.



Cyntaxx- You and **** are the only 2 Ive seen say this was a N/A reflash. Nate has said that BOP knew he was going to spray. Unless Nate posted on a thread that was locked or deleted, Ive only seen the 2 of you say he had a NA program.