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From: the moral high ground
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From: the moral high ground
I tried describing my trip to church to my know-it-all buddy. 
"I went thru the door into an outer room."
“Vestibule.”
"I got handed a program by a man."
“Usher.”
"He led me down the runway."
“Aisle.”
"Had me sit by a pretty woman on a bench."
“Pew.”
"Yeah, that’s what she said."
"I went thru the door into an outer room."
“Vestibule.”
"I got handed a program by a man."
“Usher.”
"He led me down the runway."
“Aisle.”
"Had me sit by a pretty woman on a bench."
“Pew.”
"Yeah, that’s what she said."
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From: the moral high ground
Thanks. Me and Odin is workin it as hard as we can.
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As I said before, I'm not good at quoting scripture. I'm sure you know the verse I am talking about when I say "People follow the God of their father's"
I think it is in Jeramiah, or Zackeriah.
When you post about religion, it alway makes me think about Ray Stephens, and the Mississippi Squriel.
I think it is in Jeramiah, or Zackeriah.
When you post about religion, it alway makes me think about Ray Stephens, and the Mississippi Squriel.
"The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men."
While the meaning of this verse is extremely similar to your paraphased version, it's not really the same. The verse refer to people worshipping creeds of men instead of God. Your paraphrase suggests (it may not be what you intended) people worship the same God (or, possibly, man made creed) their parents or ancestors did.
Thanks for finding that for me.
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You may be suffering from RLS take some Requip or Merapex. I use to take Merapex but the strong dosage caused liver damage. I now take Requip and try to keep it at 3mg even when I feel I need a stronger doze. Try it, it might just help.
If that that doesn't help copy and paste what you want to read onto Microsoft Words. Then you can make the text any theme and/or size font, and color you'd like.
Or Simply make your own readers digest, print it out.
Good luck.
If that that doesn't help copy and paste what you want to read onto Microsoft Words. Then you can make the text any theme and/or size font, and color you'd like.
Or Simply make your own readers digest, print it out.
Good luck.
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From: the moral high ground
I believe it was just his variant for 'dosage' and there was no intended inyouwindow.
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Don't just take my word for it...your best learning would come from a person who was a non-believer and used the same excuses you use to shout me down. They can tell you what a real and powerful transformation it is. I had a conversation with a 50-year old irrigation installer last week after my Bible study class was over. Very powerful statement from a guy who finally saw the light after 40 or so years of rejecting Christ.
Look up the book '23 minutes in Hell.' I'll even buy you a copy if you promise to read it. I'd rather not take chances with my eterninty, and the guy who wrote this book can tell you why.
Look up the book '23 minutes in Hell.' I'll even buy you a copy if you promise to read it. I'd rather not take chances with my eterninty, and the guy who wrote this book can tell you why.
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NCSU:
Where did you get, from my statements, that a Christian is to be perfect? That is not the case and will never happen; but that doesn't mean that we can't continually strive to sin fewer and fewer times. That's a completely illegitimate argument used against Christians that simply carries no weight because you don't understand what being a Christian requires of you.I'm by no means perfect and don't claim to be, but I work very hard to try and be a good person. The Bible tells us that man is sinful by nature, but those who ask for forgiveness will be forgiven and he will hear our prayers as long as we have the right intentions in our heart.
Now as for the stealing case...yes, by the Bible's teachings, that would be wrong. Doesn't matter who you steal from, thou shall not steal. Now if someone is trapped in a flipped over automobile and I have to steal a crowbar out of someones construction truck to help save them, I don't see where that would be held against you. There are thousands of situations that you could put in front of my face that would question the morality of 'stealing.'
Where did you get, from my statements, that a Christian is to be perfect? That is not the case and will never happen; but that doesn't mean that we can't continually strive to sin fewer and fewer times. That's a completely illegitimate argument used against Christians that simply carries no weight because you don't understand what being a Christian requires of you.I'm by no means perfect and don't claim to be, but I work very hard to try and be a good person. The Bible tells us that man is sinful by nature, but those who ask for forgiveness will be forgiven and he will hear our prayers as long as we have the right intentions in our heart.
Now as for the stealing case...yes, by the Bible's teachings, that would be wrong. Doesn't matter who you steal from, thou shall not steal. Now if someone is trapped in a flipped over automobile and I have to steal a crowbar out of someones construction truck to help save them, I don't see where that would be held against you. There are thousands of situations that you could put in front of my face that would question the morality of 'stealing.'
Last edited by Green_98; Jun 29, 2010 at 03:14 PM.
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Just because the Bible we have now is a collection of books, songs, letters, etc. written by men and later chosen (or rejected) by men (methinks you are referring to the Councils of Nicaea) and is loaded with accidental and deliberate inaccuracies, deletions, additions, etc. doesn't mean the message of God and Jesus have no validity. It does mean we have to glean the scriptures (all of them, not just the chosen few) and books of history (some by Flavius Josephus are excellent: I have a huge volume stored somewhere I need to reread before I cut it apart and scan it into my computer) to get a more accurate feel for what God's and Jesus' message to us is. Faith plays an important role but we also have a responsibility to learn whatever we can.
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NCSU:
Where did you get, from my statements, that a Christian is to be perfect? That is not the case and will never happen; but that doesn't mean that we can't continually strive to sin fewer and fewer times. That's a completely illegitimate argument used against Christians that simply carries no weight because you don't understand what being a Christian requires of you.I'm by no means perfect and don't claim to be, but I work very hard to try and be a good person. The Bible tells us that man is sinful by nature, but those who ask for forgiveness will be forgiven and he will hear our prayers as long as we have the right intentions in our heart.
Now as for the stealing case...yes, by the Bible's teachings, that would be wrong. Doesn't matter who you steal from, thou shall not steal. Now if someone is trapped in a flipped over automobile and I have to steal a crowbar out of someones construction truck to help save them, I don't see where that would be held against you. There are thousands of situations that you could put in front of my face that would question the morality of 'stealing.'
Where did you get, from my statements, that a Christian is to be perfect? That is not the case and will never happen; but that doesn't mean that we can't continually strive to sin fewer and fewer times. That's a completely illegitimate argument used against Christians that simply carries no weight because you don't understand what being a Christian requires of you.I'm by no means perfect and don't claim to be, but I work very hard to try and be a good person. The Bible tells us that man is sinful by nature, but those who ask for forgiveness will be forgiven and he will hear our prayers as long as we have the right intentions in our heart.
Now as for the stealing case...yes, by the Bible's teachings, that would be wrong. Doesn't matter who you steal from, thou shall not steal. Now if someone is trapped in a flipped over automobile and I have to steal a crowbar out of someones construction truck to help save them, I don't see where that would be held against you. There are thousands of situations that you could put in front of my face that would question the morality of 'stealing.'