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Old May 28, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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BP fiasco continues!

Today BP has about a hundred worker's (actor's) bused to clean the beaches at Grand Isle, La. to impress O'Bama when he visited today. They played like they cleaned up oil for about an hour then left. What a joke!
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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BP says those workers get bused every day and will be back again tomorrow. Because of the heat they start early in the morning so they are done early in the afternoon. Supposedly it had nothing to do with Obama's visit.
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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BP says those workers get bused every day and will be back again tomorrow. Because of the heat they start early in the morning so they are done early in the afternoon. Supposedly it had nothing to do with Obama's visit.
I'll look for them tomorrow. Local news said they worked about an hour then they went and laid down. Had them on film. Only day they were bused in was today. Sure hope it wasen't staged.
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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Everyone's critical of BP. No one's critical of the Messiah. He's in charge, remember. It's all his fault.
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 10:08 PM
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I'll look for them tomorrow. Local news said they worked about an hour then they went and laid down. Had them on film. Only day they were bused in was today. Sure hope it wasen't staged.
I hope it wasn't staged either. That's pretty low if it was. The last thing BP needs to be doing right now is giving people more reason to hate them.

Let us know if you see them tomorrow.
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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If this were under Bush's watch, the media would be burning him in effigy by now! Where's the outrage now that "The Chosen One" is pulling the levers?

 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 11:05 PM
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I see it the other way....the Obama administration made certain to have these workers (actors) as a human backdrop for the media during his visit. Give Obama an Oscar for playing the role as President. What a dope!!!
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 11:46 PM
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I don't mean to poke any bones- but I don't see you guys out there helping...
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 11:49 PM
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I don't mean to poke any bones- but I don't see you guys out there helping...
Are any of these guys responsible for this mess?
 
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Old May 28, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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Are any of these guys responsible for this mess?
Thats not much of an argument. When I used to volunteer for the fire dept, I wouldn't come on the scene of the accident and start ordering the patients to start cleaning up the oil or debris. Or say a six year old sets her parents house on fire while they're out of town. Heres the hose, missy. You played with the matches, so you put it out. This is an economical disaster and we as Americans need to help eachother out. The finger pointing can come later after we clean up the mess.

I can guarantee you that if I were in the area, I wouldn't be on here right now.
 

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Old May 29, 2010 | 12:17 AM
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Thats not much of an argument. When I used to volunteer for the fire dept, I wouldn't come on the scene of the accident and start ordering the patients to start cleaning up the oil or debris. Or say a six year old sets her parents house on fire while they're out of town. Heres the hose, missy. You played with the matches, so you put it out. This is an economical disaster and we as Americans need to help eachother out. The finger pointing can come later after we clean up the mess.

I can guarantee you that if I were in the area, I wouldn't be on here right now.
Give it some time before the spill affects the area(s) around you. I will be taking muster....so you better be there.
 
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Old May 29, 2010 | 12:35 AM
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I hope it wasn't staged either. That's pretty low if it was. The last thing BP needs to be doing right now is giving people more reason to hate them.

Let us know if you see them tomorrow.
I love how this is BP's fault and people hate them when Halliburton cemented the well, and the cement job is what failed.
 
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Old May 29, 2010 | 01:56 AM
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I love how this is BP's fault and people hate them when Halliburton cemented the well, and the cement job is what failed.
It wasn't Halliburton at the top of the chain calling the shots. Halliburton was contracted by BP.

Mark Hafle, a BP drilling engineer who designed the well casings and cement seals, was questioned repeatedly Friday about whether those elements led to the disaster that sent the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig to the seafloor, killed 11 men and began the nation's worst oil spill.

“I came up with the basic design but had it validated by our engineering and technology group,” he told a Coast Guard and Minerals Management Service panel in Kenner, La. "We worked with Halliburton to design it. They have a piece of software, and they run the model."

Halliburton was contracted by BP for the cementing work.

Asked whether he was aware of any problem while drilling the well, Hafle said, "Every test was satisfactory when they were drilling this well…to my knowledge."

When asked about a possible influx of hydrocarbons, or about gas incursions, he told investigators, "I'm not sure."

"All indications were we had an adequate cement job," Hafle said at one point. But a member of the panel interrupted: "This is not entirely correct in my opinion. There were 11 people killed and you still think the cement job was successful?"

Hafle said Halliburton was informed about a "severe" loss of drilling fluid, or mud, when the drillers reached the production level of the well. "Halliburton was aware," he said. "We lost 3,000 barrels of mud."

Pressed about whether cement had to have failed for gas and oil to flow from the well, Hafle said, "I’m not sure."

"There has to be a failure at some point for this well to flow, correct?" one questioner said.

"Not necessarily," he replied.

"There had to be a failure at some location, correct?"

"Yes, it failed and blew out," Hafle replied.

The questioner pressed: "Give me the different possibilities that would have allowed this well to flow."

"I am not going to speculate," he said.
It's not all cut an dry. There are many people at fault, but BP will get most of the blame.

Raptor, you are right, it's shouldn't come down to pointing blame, but there is a reason it needs to. Cleanup isn't as simple as everyone show up one day with their shovels, gloves, and spare trash bags to fix this disaster. We can't all hold hands and say this is America and we can do it together. Most people can't take off from their jobs and family to travel to the beaches to clean up. Most people that can, don't have the tools, expenses, and man power needed to remedy this problem. BP does have money, and seeing how they at least "partially" responsible, they should be held acountable for cleaning up this mess. Maybe they need to hire more temporary employees for clean up crews. The government could even create more jobs. Our country faces a large unemployement rate right now. I'm sure people wouldn't mind having a job for a while.
 
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Old May 29, 2010 | 02:33 AM
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Give it some time before the spill affects the area(s) around you. I will be taking muster....so you better be there.
I highly doubt it will...but if it does I'll be ready. Free oil? yes please!
 
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Old May 29, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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In my opinion with the drilling operations being about 6 weeks behind schedule BP rushed the cementing operation and probably used a blowout preventer that from the get go was not up to par. BP knew what amount's of oil they were tapping into but did not want the well shut down. Money and greed will trump safety every time. Follow BP's safety record with their production and refining facilities over the last few years and draw your own conclusions.
 
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