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Old May 31, 2010 | 10:15 PM
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You have absolutely no idea of the MAGNITUDE of this gusher! This will likely go on for months and the rate of flow is likely to increase with time as the gushing oil erodes the steel (yes, crude oil can be surprisingly abrasive because it is not pure). Even the current flow rate makes your statement appear surprisingly out-of-touch.

I wish BP the best and hope they have some miraculous way to slow or stop this leak but there is no evidence to indicate that is the case. The Norwegians have a large off-shore oil industry and every well is required by law to have common sense modern safety devices in place to prevent this type of thing but Bush loaded the regulators with big oil cronies who were so cheap they lobbied against these common sense devices.
You have absolutely no idea of our cleaning capacity. The Navy has 21 oil skimming units here. Each are capable of cleaning 1200 barrels of oil per 24 hour period. The largest of the Costner machines are each capable of cleaning 5000 barrels of oil per 24 hour period, there are four of them here. That leaves approximately 22 more machines of Costner's available. The highest estimates from the government is 19000 barrels per day. If the majority of the equipment were deployed between the spill and the marshes with the higher capacity equipment closer to the main parts of the spill, that would do miracles to keep the problem in a relatively easy area to clean up. If these resources were placed in service earlier in the disaster they could have prevented much of the impact the oil has had on the land. But due to government red tape these items were held up. Remember to never waste a crisis.
 
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Old May 31, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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Whas up Habs? Thiangs goin on for ya?
Hey Tumba!

I don't think Stealth will appreciate you posting his photo online, that might put him in a bad mood

Shhhhh-----> He's got me on ignore anyway so he won't see this.
You got to admit, the photo is a striking resemblance but I think the monkey is smarter
 
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Old May 31, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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Old May 31, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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Old May 31, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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You can call BS all you want. You are not here. You are not seeing what is going on.
No, but PawPaw is, and he says he saw almost no evidence of any oil, both on shore and out in the Gulf. Sounds like they're doing a much better job than you're willing to give credit for...

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Got back earlier today from Grand Isle where we spent the last 3 days pretty much hanging around the camp and dodging thunderstorms. My son in law and I went out to the beach Saturday evening and saw almost no evedience of any oil, both on shore and out in the Gulf. D
 
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Old May 31, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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He is very good at ignoring.
I see another pissing contest on the horizon.
I highly recomend everyone put their chaps on so their leg don't get calloused.

I'm good, because>>
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Labnerd
They could easily be dispatched to cut the pipe, put a cathead on it, and turn the damn thing off. Yeah, it's really that easy..
You're just making stuff up and talking out of your *** because if it really were that simple it would've been done 40 days ago.

I'll forward your suggestion to the top brass at BP and you can singlehandedly be credited for finding a solution to one of the worst environmental disaster's the world has ever seen.

You'll be awarded the Nobel Prize, make the cover of Time, and be on every News channel for a month.



There's 200 PhD's all huddled in a room for over a month trying to come up with a solution, but some dillweed from Texas so cavalierly came up with the fix on a message board; and to top it off, you're even arrogant about it

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Yeah, it's really that easy...
Nicely done!
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Habibi
No, but PawPaw is, and he says he saw almost no evidence of any oil, both on shore and out in the Gulf. Sounds like they're doing a much better job than you're willing to give credit for...
Two things. 1) I haven't heard of Grand Isle getting much oil either from the local rags. 2) "Almost no" and "No" are two completely different things. Almost no oil in the area does mean there is oil in the area. Just because not much oil is washing up on Grand Isle does not mean more is not washing up in other areas of the marshlands, which is happening and could have been prevented. I can go out to Ship or Cat Island and say there isn't an oil spill, because there isn't any oil. It is only a few miles from where the oil is washing up, but due to the currents they haven't seen any oil, yet.
 

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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 07:31 AM
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Kinda strange that fuel prices keep dropping as BP fills the Gulf with crude. Everytime anything else went wrong such as hurricanes and platform fires, the price always went up.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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Kinda strange that fuel prices keep dropping as BP fills the Gulf with crude. Everytime anything else went wrong such as hurricanes and platform fires, the price always went up.
It's because the well being drilled was not sending oil to be sold, yet. The rig had no effect on the supply of oil, so there is no effect on the price of oil. The rest of the calamities you talk about effected wells that were sending oil to market, so it did effect the supply of oil and as a result the price of oil.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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You'll be awarded the Nobel Prize, make the cover of Time, and be on every News channel for a month.
The Nobel prize is worthless. They give it to anyone now.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by norm
the nobel prize is worthless. They give it to anyone now.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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i have and run my own company, i was not aware that because i pay a certain amount in taxes, the government was responsible for any mistakes i make.

BP's problem, they need to fix it and pay for it. at the very least the government should do a GM thing and fix it and charge them for it in stock or cash. i actually work with serveral people involved in the oil business and everyone agrees this was an epic fail on BP's part. no one seem to have the answer either. Kind of like having a heart attach, the best way to fix one is try and prevent it before it happens.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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There are apparently several break downs. Haliburton is at fault for sloppy workmanship and failure to monitor it's job. BP is at fault for not checking a contrators work and testing it adequately. Plus, since this is a government regulated project, the regulators have failed to check the progress and test properly. This is a highly unique endeavor and even more attention than normal should have been spent on testing and monitoring. Whatever was in place apparently failed. So, to me all three are at fault. Why have regulators if they do not do their job?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Why have regulators if they do not do their job?
Ask **** Cheney, he is the one that successfully argued that the offshore drilling industry should be a self-regulated affair. And then he put industry people in place to carry out his ideas. Then oil companies had record profits at the expense of the people.
 
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