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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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I respctfully disagree, Frank.

From what I have seen, the true danger in this thinking is the religious establishment losing control over the mindless masses and allowing people to think for themselves and worship Him unto themselves, as has been intended from the start. People don't need these "false prophets" that insert themselves as the conduit to finding Him. And when the masses realize they can find and be with Him all on their own, the Vatican will fall and take the other religions with it too.
You're speaking of an "organized religion", such as the Catholic Church. Which I personally am no part of.

Don't worry, every Christian I know is a free-thinker. And that includes not being a dupe for the MSM or any pastor. Like I always say, whatever doesn't align itself with Scripture, cast aside. Christ should be the goal.

 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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mankind had this truth until the Romans took it away.

some religions, such as Buddhism, never lost it.
Buddhism is just a form of spiritism/animism shrouded in false kindness. This is why present day Christians are killed and/or persecuted in India. Maybe that is the Buddhists view of "suffering".
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank S
Buddhism is just a form of spiritism/animism shrouded in false kindness. This is why present day Christians are killed and/or persecuted in India. Maybe that is the Buddhists view of "suffering".


wrong on both accounts.

Buddhism is an extension of Hindusim.

Any Christians being persecuted or killed in India are not the victms of Buddhism.

If we must pass of stereotypes and misinformation around here, let me add to it with "typical Christian attempts to discredit other religions with lies"
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Habibi, at the root your question is simple. Not from a religious point of view but from simple logic this is my response.

you must first assume there is a God, life on Earth must serve some greater purpose.

If God's intent was for everyone to get to Heaven, then why even have life on Earth?

God's eternal purpose is to have a people that are faithful to Him. As Christ said, "blessed are those that believe in that which is not seen" after Thomas had doubted Christ's resurrection. God wants all to believe and be saved, but He obviously knows that won't happen. And for this faithfulness there are rewards that the human mind/experience cannot imagine.

Near the end of Revelation God says, "It is finished", meaning His eternal purpose of gathering to Himself His people. From then on, it's easy street.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by J-150
wrong on both accounts.

Buddhism is an extension of Hindusim.

Any Christians being persecuted or killed in India are not the victms of Buddhism.

If we must pass of stereotypes and misinformation around here, let me add to it with "typical Christian attempts to discredit other religions with lies"
There is no mis-information in my post.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank S

Like I always say, whatever doesn't align itself with Scripture, cast aside. Christ should be the goal.


I respectfully disagree Frank. The 2 statements run in conflict of each other.

ALigning with scripture does keep one from fully embracing The Christ.

It has been shown time and time again that the scriptures are tainted by man.

IMO, reaching out and accepting Him should come first and foremost and all other things should be taken as guidance, not the 100%, inflexible, unquestionable law.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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I respectfully disagree Frank. The 2 statements run in conflict of each other.

ALigning with scripture does keep one from fully embracing The Christ.

It has been shown time and time again that the scriptures are tainted by man.

IMO, reaching out and accepting Him should come first and foremost and all other things should be taken as guidance, not the 100%, inflexible, unquestionable law.
Give me some of examples of this 'tainting.'
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Habibi,

Faith > reason and logic

Many times that's not only true when speaking of religion.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Habibi,

Faith > reason and logic

Many times that's not only true when speaking of religion.
How true. Similar to Algore's faith in global warming > reason and logic.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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How true. Similar to Algore's faith in global warming > reason and logic.


Faith can't apply to science just as logic can't apply to religion.

That's where Gore goes wrong.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Faith can't apply to science just as logic can't apply to religion.

That's where Gore goes wrong.

Gore is cashing in on the religion of Eviron-whacko-ism. Science has nothing to do with it. He's crazy like a fox.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank S
Give me some of examples of this 'tainting.'


let's start with Paul.

Paul wasn't even there and spent a great deal of his time discrediting to gospels of others (Philip, Thomas, Magdalene)
Romans, Epistles etc are BS right off the top as they are nothing more than the opinion of Paul and his attempts to discredit James who was the rightful heir to continue the word of The Christ, not Paul.


Then there is the entire Council of Nicea where gospels were selectively chosen to support the vision of Christianity that Constantine wanted to use it as a population control tool.

Then there is the entire issue of writing of copies of the gospels, mistranslations etc.

There is far more evidence supporting errors in the current bible than evidence supporting its accuracy.

Arguments as to its accuracy generally rooted in faith, not proof.

And would you like to know that some of the most learned men on the subject are priests and religious scholars, not athiests.



But my intent is not to change your belief system. What you believe is what you believe and I respect that. Your beliefs are not wrong as this is how He came to you. If He comes to others differetly, they are not wrong either.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Odin's Wrath
Gore is cashing in on the religion of Eviron-whacko-ism. Science has nothing to do with it. He's crazy like a fox.


Gore isnt crazy. He's a greedy money-grubber. Telling people to be green while he travels in private jets and lives in a mansion.

Gore is milking this for a payday.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by J-150
let's start with Paul.

Paul wasn't even there and spent a great deal of his time discrediting to gospels of others (Philip, Thomas, Magdalene)
Romans, Epistles etc are BS right off the top as they are nothing more than the opinion of Paul and his attempts to discredit James who was the rightful heir to continue the word of The Christ, not Paul.


Then there is the entire Council of Nicea where gospels were selectively chosen to support the vision of Christianity that Constantine wanted to use it as a population control tool.

Then there is the entire issue of writing of copies of the gospels, mistranslations etc.

There is far more evidence supporting errors in the current bible than evidence supporting its accuracy.

Arguments as to its accuracy generally rooted in faith, not proof.

And would you like to know that some of the most learned men on the subject are priests and religious scholars, not athiests.



But my intent is not to change your belief system. What you believe is what you believe and I respect that. Your beliefs are not wrong as this is how He came to you. If He comes to others differetly, they are not wrong either.
Sorry, but that is your opinion. To say that Paul's writings, inspired by the Holy Ghost is "tainted", is blasphemous. Paul's writings in the Bible are 100% consistent with the teachings of Christ.

Sorry, but you'll understand why I won't even go into any of the other opinions you have.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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crazy like a fox idiom

Seemingly foolish but actually very shrewd and cunning. For example, You think Bob was crazy to turn it down? He's crazy like a fox, because they've now doubled their offer. This usage gained currency when humorist S.J. Perelman used it as the title of a book (1944). [Early 1900s]
 
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