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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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Sorry, but that is your opinion. To say that Paul's writings, inspired by the Holy Ghost is "tainted", is blasphemous. Paul's writings in the Bible are 100% consistent with the teachings of Christ.

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according to Paul, those are his teachings.

and therein lies the rub. That we should take the word of Paul of the disciples that were there.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank S
Give me some of examples of this 'tainting.'
It was transcribed by men, and men are inherently flawed so the Bible possibly has flaws in it.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RileyDog
It was transcribed by men, and men are inherently flawed so the Bible possibly has flaws in it.
Possibly?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by J-150
according to Paul, those are his teachings.

and therein lies the rub. That we should take the word of Paul of the disciples that were there.

Like I said, Paul's teachings after his conversion on the Damascus road are 100% in accord with Christ's teachings. There is no rub, just your imagined one. Let's not mis-represent the Bible here.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank S
Possibly?
Explain your response please
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank S
Like I said, Paul's teachings after his conversion on the Damascus road are 100% in accord with Christ's teachings. There is no rub, just your imagined one. Let's not mis-represent the Bible here.
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In reading your beliefs I gather , you are saying that Paul was an extention of God and infoulable. He did afterall write these letters while in exile by the Governing body of the time. I can see how some bitterness could have crept into his writings of Gods word. Afterall while in exile, would he not be tempted by other ideals and forces.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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In reading your beliefs I gather , you are saying that Paul was an extention of God and infoulable. He did afterall write these letters while in exile by the Governing body of the time. I can see how some bitterness could have crept into his writings of Gods word. Afterall while in exile, would he not be tempted by other ideals and forces.
Paul was not an extension of God, but he was led by the Holy Ghost. There is no bitterness in Paul's Epistles. In fact, he thanks God for his hardships and illness for keeping him humble. Keep in mind that if his teachings were not inspired by the Holy Ghost, they would not be in keeping with the teachings of Christ. This is why they were and are inspired. In fact, once he even rebuked Peter for his error in believing that circumcision was still in effect after Christ's death, with Peter responding favorably. Hope this helps.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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I know, you guys think I’m up to no-good, but I had a serious brainstorm the other day, but before I share it with you; I need to find the answer to this question.
It’s important that there’s a consensus also.
The bible says that the only way to get into heaven is by accepting Jesus Christ into your heart, no exceptions.
Suppose there is a tribe of pygmy’s living deep in the jungles of the Amazon, and they have never been contacted or exposed to anyone from the outside world.
Since they have never been told the good word, upon their death, do they go to heaven or hell?
I know this has been covered before, but I don’t recall there being a concrete consensus.
So what say you experts, heaven or hell?

Is there a definitive answer everyone agrees on?
Then I will be pleased to share my exciting revelation with all of you.
Habs
Just wondering if you had shared your "exciting revelation" yet...
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HKnFORD
Just wondering if you had shared your "exciting revelation" yet...
https://www.f150online.com/forums/3990945-post40.html

You are over qualified for this one. But there it is
 

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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Tumba
https://www.f150online.com/forums/3990945-post40.html

You are over qualified for this one. But there it is
I would not call myself overqualified, but instead humbled and childlike. According to the Word, his argument and revelation is flawed. God addresses all of the "Teddy Bear" collectors questions...not by way of philosophy, but in Christ as God commands.

How good is good enough? Its subjective to everyone, does anyone have that much faith in themselves? Jesus was not only good enough, He was the perfect sacrifice. Hebrews 9:22 And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission "of sin". John 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Mark 3:28-29 “Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; 29 but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation”—
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 04:20 AM
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I would not call myself overqualified, but instead humbled and childlike. According to the Word, his argument and revelation is flawed. God addresses all of the "Teddy Bear" collectors questions...not by way of philosophy, but in Christ as God commands.

How good is good enough? Its subjective to everyone, does anyone have that much faith in themselves? Jesus was not only good enough, He was the perfect sacrifice. Hebrews 9:22 And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission "of sin". John 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Mark 3:28-29 “Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; 29 but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation”—
One day we will sit under our own vine That vine will be provided for us. There will not be a worm, unless the of Autority over it is questioned
I do not claim these words to be of the Bible.
It is not what goes into a man that is unclean, but what comes out of him.
 

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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 05:49 AM
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I respectfully disagree Frank. The 2 statements run in conflict of each other.

ALigning with scripture does keep one from fully embracing The Christ.

It has been shown time and time again that the scriptures are tainted by man.

IMO, reaching out and accepting Him should come first and foremost and all other things should be taken as guidance, not the 100%, inflexible, unquestionable law.
True enough. God created this place, and Eden was not just a Garden in Mesopotamia. The whole planet is Eden, and we are doing the things that will force us from it.
From the beginning of time to the present day man has constantly been pushed further and further away form the beginning until one day the Garden is left Barren.

During the beginning, of man until history was recorded
The great desserts in the Mid East and Africa were at one time, places where lush Forrest's and gardens, that over the Melina have been used up and climates changed until man had to leave these uninhabitable places. The proof of that can be found in the fossil fuels we use today, the are the remnants of what was there.

Just think of how many trees were cut during the bronze age to burn in kilns, to make the minerals man found into the metals he needed. Whole forests were cut down.
Another example is how whole forests were cut down to build the ancient Temples of Solomon. Did God really desire these temples be built, or was it simply the arrogance of man, trying to show God how great he was, and that he had the power to make it happen? I do believe so.
Moses learned many tricks, that led the slaves from Egypt, I'm not saying any of what Moses did was wrong, because he saved his people.

It was the Carpenters and the stone masters that truly understand the ideals of God, for they devoted their lives into building the Holy places. It was not the Conquerers in charge that wrote the word of God. It was their arrogance that ordered it to happen.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RileyDog
Explain your response please
anyone?.........
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RileyDog
anyone?.........
There is no correct answer to that question.
When and if God gives it to me.
I'll let you know.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Habibi
I know, you guys think I’m up to no-good, but I had a serious brainstorm the other day, but before I share it with you; I need to find the answer to this question.
It’s important that there’s a consensus also.
The bible says that the only way to get into heaven is by accepting Jesus Christ into your heart, no exceptions.
Suppose there is a tribe of pygmy’s living deep in the jungles of the Amazon, and they have never been contacted or exposed to anyone from the outside world.
Since they have never been told the good word, upon their death, do they go to heaven or hell?
I know this has been covered before, but I don’t recall there being a concrete consensus.
So what say you experts, heaven or hell?

Is there a definitive answer everyone agrees on?
Then I will be pleased to share my exciting revelation with all of you.
Habs

IMO, God is never unjust. Everyone will be afforded an opportunity for ever lasting life in one way or another. Maybe not here on earth, but everyone will stand in the presence of God one day.
 
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