anyone know the bible well and can write good essays?
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The idea that any one of our religions represents the infallible word of The One True God requires an encyclopedic ignorance of history, mythology, and art to even be entertained - as the beliefs, rituals and iconography of each of our religions attest to centuries of crosspollination among them. Whatever their imagined source, the doctrines of modern religions are no more tenable then those which, for lack of adherents, were cast upon the scrap heap of mythology millennia ago; for there is no more evidence to justify a belief in the literal existence of Yahweh and Satan than there was to keep Zeus perched upon his mountain throne or Poseidon churning the seas.
According to Gallup, 35% of Americans believe that the Bible is the literal and inerrant word of the Creator of the universe. Another 48% believe that it is the "inspired" word of the same - still inerrant, though certains of it's passages must be interpreted symbolically before their truth can be brought to light. Only 17% of us remain to doubt that a personal God, in his infinite wisdom, is likely to have authored this text - or for that matter to have created the Earth with its 250,000 species of beetles. Some 46% of Americans take a literalist view of creation (40% believe that God guided creation over the course of millions of years). This means that 120 million of us place the Big Bang 2,500 years AFTER the Babylonians and Sumerians learned to brew beer. If our polls are to be trusted, nearly 230 millions Americans believe that a book showing NEITHER unity of style nor internal consistency was authored by an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent deity. A survey of Hindus, Muslims, and Jews around the world would surely yeild similar results, revealing that we, as a species, have grown almost perfectly intoxicated by our myths. How is it that, in this one area of our lives, we have convinced ourselves that our beliefs about the world can float entirely free of reason and evidence ??
Read the book End of Faith by Sam Harris. Some of the best reading I have done in a long, long time. Great points, well thought out.
I hope to show that the very ideal of religious tolerance - born of the notion that every human being should be free to believe whatever he wants about God- is one of the principal forces driving us toward the abyss.
Even our founding fathers realized how purely evil religion is. How it keeps a death grip on reason, and logic. How it ruins the very world we try and thrive in.
- Bill M.
According to Gallup, 35% of Americans believe that the Bible is the literal and inerrant word of the Creator of the universe. Another 48% believe that it is the "inspired" word of the same - still inerrant, though certains of it's passages must be interpreted symbolically before their truth can be brought to light. Only 17% of us remain to doubt that a personal God, in his infinite wisdom, is likely to have authored this text - or for that matter to have created the Earth with its 250,000 species of beetles. Some 46% of Americans take a literalist view of creation (40% believe that God guided creation over the course of millions of years). This means that 120 million of us place the Big Bang 2,500 years AFTER the Babylonians and Sumerians learned to brew beer. If our polls are to be trusted, nearly 230 millions Americans believe that a book showing NEITHER unity of style nor internal consistency was authored by an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent deity. A survey of Hindus, Muslims, and Jews around the world would surely yeild similar results, revealing that we, as a species, have grown almost perfectly intoxicated by our myths. How is it that, in this one area of our lives, we have convinced ourselves that our beliefs about the world can float entirely free of reason and evidence ??
Read the book End of Faith by Sam Harris. Some of the best reading I have done in a long, long time. Great points, well thought out.
I hope to show that the very ideal of religious tolerance - born of the notion that every human being should be free to believe whatever he wants about God- is one of the principal forces driving us toward the abyss.
Even our founding fathers realized how purely evil religion is. How it keeps a death grip on reason, and logic. How it ruins the very world we try and thrive in.
- Bill M.
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Our founding fathers were profoundly christian, 24 of the document signers were certified Biblical scholars. A Biblical scholar was very hard to come by back then.
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...es.asp?id=8755
The founding fathers came here to let anyone believe what they wanted but the major majority of them were of christian background. It's just a fact. I study the founding fathers and american history, I have to call people out when I hear false info.
Now continue on with your discussion.
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...es.asp?id=8755
The founding fathers came here to let anyone believe what they wanted but the major majority of them were of christian background. It's just a fact. I study the founding fathers and american history, I have to call people out when I hear false info.
Now continue on with your discussion.
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Brainwashing tactics? You mean like this?--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aqMTD5UFmU
There are so many half-truths in your post, Ill just answer a few....
Bill Gates gets recognition from the public like you for giving his gifts. Otherwise he would give in secret.
As for Christians spreading the gospel: Have you ever considered that those people care about the souls of the people they are witnessing to? Most missionaries have little to their name.
It's funny Habibi, you like to criticize, yet you insult in your posts. One must ask, why bother? Does it make you feel better about yourself to say, "The only thing I've managed to prove Frank is that you are seriously lacking some reading comprehension abilities."
Do you not see the hypocrisy there?
From the Qur'an: "Do not make friends with Jews or Christians." Enough said.
There are so many half-truths in your post, Ill just answer a few....
Bill Gates gets recognition from the public like you for giving his gifts. Otherwise he would give in secret.
As for Christians spreading the gospel: Have you ever considered that those people care about the souls of the people they are witnessing to? Most missionaries have little to their name.
It's funny Habibi, you like to criticize, yet you insult in your posts. One must ask, why bother? Does it make you feel better about yourself to say, "The only thing I've managed to prove Frank is that you are seriously lacking some reading comprehension abilities."
Do you not see the hypocrisy there?
From the Qur'an: "Do not make friends with Jews or Christians." Enough said.
Kinda of like when you pointed out to Mblouir about his post about the old testment.
Funny how that works.
Insulting? I've not insulted you, if you refer to me calling you a hypocrite and a bigot, that's not an insult, more so an observation based on your utter intolerance for anyone else’s opinions and views that differ from yourself.
I've addressed several of your points in this thread, and instead of replying to anything, you simply state "thanks for proving me right once again Habibi"
I've never proved you right about anything, if anything, you've proved yourself wrong and I've no intention of ever insulting you, that gets us nowhere and is counterproductive to the conversation.
Sometimes the truth can hurt and for that, I'm sorry if it's difficult to deal with, but as I said, I would never insult you, it's not my nature.
As far as the missionaries 'saving' the lost souls of the world, they are doing it to increase the numbers of the church and gain new recruits, you & I both know this is just an opportunistic way to sign new people up.
As far as Bill Gates & Warren Buffet donating x Billions to the needy, is recognition so bad? There is a positive out of having the recognition in that it might compel other people to follow their example and also give.
Yes, they are so evil and cunning for accepting the recognition, the nerve of them.
Monkey see and monkey do, they are good role models by giving all that money away and they ask for nothing in return, unlike your missionaries who are out there under the guise of feeding the hungry, but the food they give is akin to the free drinks you get offered while sitting in at a time share seminar.
Here's a bowl of rice for you Mahmoud, let's read the bible together while you eat that"
"Are you thirsty now Mahmoud? Here's some nice cold water, let's begin at chapter 2"
At least the time share vultures are honest and don't cover up their true motives.
There's no free lunch Frank.
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You took Surah 5:51 out of context.
Kinda of like when you pointed out to Mblouir about his post about the old testment.
I guess what's good for the goose isn't good for the Frank is it?
Funny how that works.
Insulting? I've not insulted you, if you refer to me calling you a hypocrite and a bigot, that's not an insult, more so an observation based on your utter intolerance for anyone else’s opinions and views that differ from yourself.
I've addressed several of your points in this thread, and instead of replying to anything, you simply state "thanks for proving me right once again Habibi"
I've never proved you right about anything, if anything, you've proved yourself wrong and I've no intention of ever insulting you, that gets us nowhere and is counterproductive to the conversation.
Sometimes the truth can hurt and for that, I'm sorry if it's difficult to deal with, but as I said, I would never insult you, it's not my nature.
As far as the missionaries 'saving' the lost souls of the world, they are doing it to increase the numbers of the church and gain new recruits, you & I both know this is just an opportunistic way to sign new people up.
As far as Bill Gates & Warren Buffet donating x Billions to the needy, is recognition so bad? There is a positive out of having the recognition in that it might compel other people to follow their example and also give.
Yes, they are so evil and cunning for accepting the recognition, the nerve of them.
Monkey see and monkey do, they are good role models by giving all that money away and they ask for nothing in return, unlike your missionaries who are out there under the guise of feeding the hungry, but the food they give is akin to the free drinks you get offered while sitting in at a time share seminar.
Here's a bowl of rice for you Mahmoud, let's read the bible together while you eat that"
"Are you thirsty now Mahmoud? Here's some nice cold water, let's begin at chapter 2"
At least the time share vultures are honest and don't cover up their true motives.
There's no free lunch Frank.
Kinda of like when you pointed out to Mblouir about his post about the old testment.
I guess what's good for the goose isn't good for the Frank is it?
Funny how that works.
Insulting? I've not insulted you, if you refer to me calling you a hypocrite and a bigot, that's not an insult, more so an observation based on your utter intolerance for anyone else’s opinions and views that differ from yourself.
I've addressed several of your points in this thread, and instead of replying to anything, you simply state "thanks for proving me right once again Habibi"
I've never proved you right about anything, if anything, you've proved yourself wrong and I've no intention of ever insulting you, that gets us nowhere and is counterproductive to the conversation.
Sometimes the truth can hurt and for that, I'm sorry if it's difficult to deal with, but as I said, I would never insult you, it's not my nature.
As far as the missionaries 'saving' the lost souls of the world, they are doing it to increase the numbers of the church and gain new recruits, you & I both know this is just an opportunistic way to sign new people up.
As far as Bill Gates & Warren Buffet donating x Billions to the needy, is recognition so bad? There is a positive out of having the recognition in that it might compel other people to follow their example and also give.
Yes, they are so evil and cunning for accepting the recognition, the nerve of them.
Monkey see and monkey do, they are good role models by giving all that money away and they ask for nothing in return, unlike your missionaries who are out there under the guise of feeding the hungry, but the food they give is akin to the free drinks you get offered while sitting in at a time share seminar.
Here's a bowl of rice for you Mahmoud, let's read the bible together while you eat that"
"Are you thirsty now Mahmoud? Here's some nice cold water, let's begin at chapter 2"
At least the time share vultures are honest and don't cover up their true motives.
There's no free lunch Frank.
Yes, recognition is bad for Bill Gates. Curious how you have changed your opinion now when previously you stated they do it for nothing. If Bill Gates really cared about feeding the hungry and wasn't trying to improve his image and the image of his company, he would give in secret.
One day, when you are a very old man and you die, you will see the true intentions of the missionaries, as compared to a headline seeker like Bill Gates.
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What are the specifics? I think this is an excellent discussion, may not be suitable for closed minded people and or people who willingly choose to stay ignorant about each others views just because they feel that their view is the one and only right view. I see nothing wrong with this tread other than the fact that some of us confused Will09Lane more than he probably was, by not staying on topic. I tried to correct that but was to no avail.