anyone know the bible well and can write good essays?
Groups like the KKK, and people like Hitler twist Scripture to fit their own worldview. They have and will face punishment for their sins.
If you want to see people that twist Scripture to fit their needs, just switch on TBN or Daystar channel and you will see men and women twisting Scripture to get money. There have always been false teachers and always will be. Unfortunately, there are not enough discerning people to separate the good from bad.
And that is where you guys are wrong. Having been born in Ohio, but lived in Ga since I was 14, "run to the store" is a play on words.
When southerners say they need to "run to the store", they are saying in essence they just need to go to the store. There is no sense of urgency in the words or situation.
When southerners say they need to "run to the store", they are saying in essence they just need to go to the store. There is no sense of urgency in the words or situation.
"Will you bring me to the store?" 'Will you bring me home?"...etc.
Down here 'bring me' means take me along with you.
and 'take me' means take me someplace else.
We had a communication problem when she'd ask me to bring her someplace I hadn't even thought about going myself.
And 'Bring me home' meant my place as I was concerned.
'Take me home' would mean the date was over.
She thought I was bold and brazen while I thought I was just doing what she said.
Anyway, we ended up married.
Maybe referee54 can weigh in on that.
Are 'Bring me..' and 'Take me...' interchangable?
Do they mean the same thing?
I'd hate to think I ended up married because I didn't pay attention in English class.
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And that is where you guys are wrong. Having been born in Ohio, but lived in Ga since I was 14, "run to the store" is a play on words.
When southerners say they need to "run to the store", they are saying in essence they just need to go to the store. There is no sense of urgency in the words or situation.
When southerners say they need to "run to the store", they are saying in essence they just need to go to the store. There is no sense of urgency in the words or situation.
Just as some interpret the Qur'an for their own purposes and some interpret the Holy Bible for theirs.
I am a Christian but I will not condemn others for their beliefs.
I haven't read the Qur'an but that does not mean I have not read the many different interpretations spread around since 9/11 to both defend the Muslim religion and condemn the terrorist acts in the name of it.
"I want to know who I am and what made me that way." Louis Leakey, Anthropologist
Last edited by OGTerror; Sep 23, 2009 at 01:27 PM.
The idea that any one of our religions represents the infallible word of The One True God requires an encyclopedic ignorance of history, mythology, and art to even be entertained - as the beliefs, rituals and iconography of each of our religions attest to centuries of crosspollination among them. Whatever their imagined source, the doctrines of modern religions are no more tenable then those which, for lack of adherents, were cast upon the scrap heap of mythology millennia ago; for there is no more evidence to justify a belief in the literal existence of Yahweh and Satan than there was to keep Zeus perched upon his mountain throne or Poseidon churning the seas.
According to Gallup, 35% of Americans believe that the Bible is the literal and inerrant word of the Creator of the universe. Another 48% believe that it is the "inspired" word of the same - still inerrant, though certains of it's passages must be interpreted symbolically before their truth can be brought to light. Only 17% of us remain to doubt that a personal God, in his infinite wisdom, is likely to have authored this text - or for that matter to have created the Earth with its 250,000 species of beetles. Some 46% of Americans take a literalist view of creation (40% believe that God guided creation over the course of millions of years). This means that 120 million of us place the Big Bang 2,500 years AFTER the Babylonians and Sumerians learned to brew beer. If our polls are to be trusted, nearly 230 millions Americans believe that a book showing NEITHER unity of style nor internal consistency was authored by an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent deity. A survey of Hindus, Muslims, and Jews around the world would surely yeild similar results, revealing that we, as a species, have grown almost perfectly intoxicated by our myths. How is it that, in this one area of our lives, we have convinced ourselves that our beliefs about the world can float entirely free of reason and evidence ??
Read the book End of Faith by Sam Harris. Some of the best reading I have done in a long, long time. Great points, well thought out.
I hope to show that the very ideal of religious tolerance - born of the notion that every human being should be free to believe whatever he wants about God- is one of the principal forces driving us toward the abyss.
Even our founding fathers realized how purely evil religion is. How it keeps a death grip on reason, and logic. How it ruins the very world we try and thrive in.
- Bill M.
According to Gallup, 35% of Americans believe that the Bible is the literal and inerrant word of the Creator of the universe. Another 48% believe that it is the "inspired" word of the same - still inerrant, though certains of it's passages must be interpreted symbolically before their truth can be brought to light. Only 17% of us remain to doubt that a personal God, in his infinite wisdom, is likely to have authored this text - or for that matter to have created the Earth with its 250,000 species of beetles. Some 46% of Americans take a literalist view of creation (40% believe that God guided creation over the course of millions of years). This means that 120 million of us place the Big Bang 2,500 years AFTER the Babylonians and Sumerians learned to brew beer. If our polls are to be trusted, nearly 230 millions Americans believe that a book showing NEITHER unity of style nor internal consistency was authored by an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent deity. A survey of Hindus, Muslims, and Jews around the world would surely yeild similar results, revealing that we, as a species, have grown almost perfectly intoxicated by our myths. How is it that, in this one area of our lives, we have convinced ourselves that our beliefs about the world can float entirely free of reason and evidence ??
Read the book End of Faith by Sam Harris. Some of the best reading I have done in a long, long time. Great points, well thought out.
I hope to show that the very ideal of religious tolerance - born of the notion that every human being should be free to believe whatever he wants about God- is one of the principal forces driving us toward the abyss.
"Lighthouses are more useful the churches"
Ben Franklin
Ben Franklin
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it !"
John Adams
John Adams
"Christiantiy is the most pervested system that ever shone on man."
Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson
And those who preach faith, and enable and elevate it are intellectual slaveholders, keeping mankind in a bondage to fantasy and nonsense that has spawned and justified so much lunacy and destruction. Religion is dangerous because it allows human beings who don't have all the answers to think that they do. Most people would think it's wonderful when someone says, "I'm willing, Lord! I'll do whatever you want me to do!" Except that since there are no gods actually talking to us, that void is filled in by people with their own corruptions and limitations and agendas. And anyone who tells you they know, they just know what happens when you die, I promise you, you don't. How can I be so sure? Because I don't know, and you do not possess mental powers that I do not. The only appropriate attitude for man to have about the big questions is not the arrogant certitude that is the hallmark of religion, but doubt. Doubt is humble, and that's what man needs to be, considering that human history is just a litany of getting **** dead wrong.
In the United States, and in much of the rest of the world, it is currently illegal to seek certain experiences of pleasure. Seek pleasure by a forbidden means, even in the privacy of your own home, and men with guns may kick in the door and carry you away to prison for it. One of the most surprising things about this situation is how unsurprising most of us find it. As in most dreams, the very faculty of reason that would otherwise notice the strangeness of these events seems to have succumbed to sleep.
Behaviors like drug use, prostitution, sodomy, and the viewing of obscene materials have been categorized as “victimless crimes.” Of course, society is the tangible victim of almost everything human beings do—from making noise to manufacturing chemical waste— but we have not made it a crime to do such things within certain limits. Setting these limits is invariably a matter of assessing risk. One could argue that it is, at the very least, conceivable that certain activities engaged in private, like the viewing of sexually violent pornography, might incline some people to commit genuine crimes against others. There is a tension, therefore, between private freedom and public risk. If there were a drug, or a book, or a film, or a sexual position that led 90 percent of its users to rush into the street and begin killing people at random, concerns over private pleasure would surely yield to those of public safety. We can also stipulate that no one is eager to see generations of children raised on a steady diet of methamphetamine and Marquis de Sade. Society as a whole has an interest in how its children develop, and the private behavior of parents, along with the contents of our media, clearly play a role in this. But we must ask ourselves, why would anyone want to punish people for engaging in behavior that brings no significant risk of harm to anyone? Indeed, what is startling about the notion of a victimless crime is that even when the behavior in question is genuinely victimless, its criminality is still affirmed by those who are eager to punish it. It is in such cases that the true genius lurking behind many of our laws stands revealed. The idea of a victimless crime is nothing more than a judicial reprise of the Christian notion of sin.
Even if we acknowledge that stopping drug use is a justifiable social goal, how does the financial cost of our war on drugs appear in light of the other challenges we face? Consider that it would require only a onetime expenditure of $2 billion to secure our commercial seaports against smuggled nuclear weapons. At present we have allocated a mere $93 million for this purpose. How will our prohibition of marijuana use look (this comes at a cost of $4 billion annually) if a new sun ever dawns over the port of Los Angeles? Or consider that the U.S. government can afford to spend only $2.3 billion each year on the reconstruction of Afghanistan. The Taliban and Al Qaeda are now regrouping. Warlords rule the countryside beyond the city limits of Kabul. Which is more important to us, reclaiming this part of the world for the forces of civilization or keeping cancer patients in Berkeley from relieving their nausea with marijuana? Our present use of government funds suggests an uncanny skewing—we might even say derangement—of our national priorities. Such a bizarre allocation of resources is sure to keep Afghanistan in ruins for many years to come. It will also leave Afghan farmers with no alternative but to grow opium. Happily for them, our drug laws still render this a highly profitable enterprise.
Anyone who believes that God is watching us from beyond the stars will feel that punishing peaceful men and women for their private pleasure is perfectly reasonable. We are now in the twenty-first century. Perhaps we should have better reasons for depriving our neighbors of their liberty at gunpoint. Given the magnitude of the real problems that confront us-—terrorism, nuclear proliferation, the spread of infectious disease, failing infrastructure, lack of adequate funds for education and health care, etc.—our war on sin is so outrageously unwise as to almost defy rational comment. How have we grown so blind to our deeper interests? And how have we managed to enact such policies with so little substantive debate?
Behaviors like drug use, prostitution, sodomy, and the viewing of obscene materials have been categorized as “victimless crimes.” Of course, society is the tangible victim of almost everything human beings do—from making noise to manufacturing chemical waste— but we have not made it a crime to do such things within certain limits. Setting these limits is invariably a matter of assessing risk. One could argue that it is, at the very least, conceivable that certain activities engaged in private, like the viewing of sexually violent pornography, might incline some people to commit genuine crimes against others. There is a tension, therefore, between private freedom and public risk. If there were a drug, or a book, or a film, or a sexual position that led 90 percent of its users to rush into the street and begin killing people at random, concerns over private pleasure would surely yield to those of public safety. We can also stipulate that no one is eager to see generations of children raised on a steady diet of methamphetamine and Marquis de Sade. Society as a whole has an interest in how its children develop, and the private behavior of parents, along with the contents of our media, clearly play a role in this. But we must ask ourselves, why would anyone want to punish people for engaging in behavior that brings no significant risk of harm to anyone? Indeed, what is startling about the notion of a victimless crime is that even when the behavior in question is genuinely victimless, its criminality is still affirmed by those who are eager to punish it. It is in such cases that the true genius lurking behind many of our laws stands revealed. The idea of a victimless crime is nothing more than a judicial reprise of the Christian notion of sin.
Even if we acknowledge that stopping drug use is a justifiable social goal, how does the financial cost of our war on drugs appear in light of the other challenges we face? Consider that it would require only a onetime expenditure of $2 billion to secure our commercial seaports against smuggled nuclear weapons. At present we have allocated a mere $93 million for this purpose. How will our prohibition of marijuana use look (this comes at a cost of $4 billion annually) if a new sun ever dawns over the port of Los Angeles? Or consider that the U.S. government can afford to spend only $2.3 billion each year on the reconstruction of Afghanistan. The Taliban and Al Qaeda are now regrouping. Warlords rule the countryside beyond the city limits of Kabul. Which is more important to us, reclaiming this part of the world for the forces of civilization or keeping cancer patients in Berkeley from relieving their nausea with marijuana? Our present use of government funds suggests an uncanny skewing—we might even say derangement—of our national priorities. Such a bizarre allocation of resources is sure to keep Afghanistan in ruins for many years to come. It will also leave Afghan farmers with no alternative but to grow opium. Happily for them, our drug laws still render this a highly profitable enterprise.
Anyone who believes that God is watching us from beyond the stars will feel that punishing peaceful men and women for their private pleasure is perfectly reasonable. We are now in the twenty-first century. Perhaps we should have better reasons for depriving our neighbors of their liberty at gunpoint. Given the magnitude of the real problems that confront us-—terrorism, nuclear proliferation, the spread of infectious disease, failing infrastructure, lack of adequate funds for education and health care, etc.—our war on sin is so outrageously unwise as to almost defy rational comment. How have we grown so blind to our deeper interests? And how have we managed to enact such policies with so little substantive debate?
More from Sam Harris
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth
Proverbs 8:27: When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
As i said before it was the Catholic church that thought the earth was flat, according to the false Latin Vulgate.
Your quote of Psalm 93,96 and 104 is totally irrelevant to this topic. The verses mean that the earth cannot be shaken as in moved by mans' efforts.
The complete verse of Isaiah 45:18: For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Proverbs 8:27: When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
As i said before it was the Catholic church that thought the earth was flat, according to the false Latin Vulgate.
Your quote of Psalm 93,96 and 104 is totally irrelevant to this topic. The verses mean that the earth cannot be shaken as in moved by mans' efforts.
The complete verse of Isaiah 45:18: For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Earth not moving but the sun moving, is further illustrated in the book of Joshua 10:13, it says that because Joshua's command, the sun stoppped in the middle of the sky for about a full day. Even Joshua knew that it was the sun that moved, not the earth. So There!
But I perfectly understand Frank "A closed mind is a wonderful thing to lose". The human mind's capacity for self-delusion is enormous; critical thinking and logic are the greatest enemies of Christian faith.
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It is time we recognize that the only thing that permits human beings to collaborate with one another in a truly open-ended way is their willingness to have their beliefs modified by new facts. Only openness to evidence and arguement will secure a common world for us. Nothing guarentees that reasonable people will agree about everything, of course, but the unreasonable are certain to be devided by their dogmas. This spirit of mutual inquiry is the very antithesis of religious faith.
Without realizing it habibi you prove the Bible correct again. As Jesus said, its easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get to heaven.
All throughout the Bible, God confounds the rich/arrogant with the simplest of people. God wants people to believe in him through faith. And that is something the rich and/or people who have everything have a difficult time with.
All throughout the Bible, God confounds the rich/arrogant with the simplest of people. God wants people to believe in him through faith. And that is something the rich and/or people who have everything have a difficult time with.
Here's another interesting little tidbit of factual info to think about:
75% of the American prison population are Christians,
.02% of the American prison population are Atheists.
Now according to your statement of God confronting the rich & arrogant, let's talk about that for a moment, shall we?
Bill Gates & Warren Buffet (both Atheists) have donated almost 70B to charity.
Guess what they asked for in return? Nothing, that's right.
When a Christian Mission goes oversees to distribute food to the hungry, there's always a catch isn't there? They don't just give them food do they? Oh no, there's a little 'small print' bonus that comes with the food, how about a bible and plenty of preaching and brain-washing.
"Do you like that bowl of rice you're eating Mahmoud? It fills your belly doesn't it? Yes, you must thank God for that rice Mahmoud because He is the one who brought it for you" "Praise God Mahmoud!"
My point being is that Atheist philanthropists who give to the poor only do so because they care about their fellow man and want to make the world a better place (by trying to end hunger and educate people) These people want nothing in return.
When Christian's donate, they want the chance to convert (brainwash) their possible new recruits into becoming a member of your cult, er, I mean religion.
If God wants people to believe in Him through faith, then why are Christians so relentless with their brainwashing tactics when the various Missions go overseas to feed the hungry? Because people are most vulnerable when they are down and out; Hence the reason why 3/4 of all the criminals who infest our prison population are Christians.
Jihad is your duty under any ruler, be he godly or wicked.
A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah's Cause in the forenoon or in the afternoon is better the the world and whatever is in it.
A day and a night fighting on the frontier is better then a month of fasting and prayer. (this, by itself, shows Martydom to be held highly in the muslim community. this leads to many problems we face today)
Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again in Allah's Cause.
He who dies without having taken part in a campaign dies in a kind of unbelief. So, if you don't fight for Allah, you're not a true believer.
Paradise is in the Shadow of swords.
Whoever changes his religion, kill him. (little extreme)
Armed conflict in defense of islam, against all heretics, is the duty of the believer. They MUST take arms against those who do not believe. They MUST send the non-believers to the afterlife for their true form of punishment. To be a good muslim, you MUST kill infidels in God's name.
In Islam, the world is split into two groups. "The House of Islam" and "The House of War". This shows how they look at "us" and other non believers. If we are not in "The House of Islam" then we must be in "The House of War". Therefore, any Muslim must make war with us. Isalm is undeniably a religion of conquest.






