Change - Explain Your Thoughts
the point I was trying to make is the sentence you used here is far more descriptive and to the point then the term I used again with the double entrende if you know what it means its a funny term, if you dont you are just going to scratch your head, as I can see we are not going to see eye to eye on this I will try to refrain from revisiting this argument
I see your point. Actually, I concur with your point. I just don't think that this particular topic is one that really isn't a topic of choice here on the site. It's, simply put, nothing that we'll allow.
References to sex are one thing... much beyond that (and even including that at times), we'll have to do some moderating at our descretion.
-RP-
Quintin -- lots of the time, we don't have time to sit here and watch it leave the tracks. I respectfully disagree that it's internet '**** swinging' with power... it does serve a purpose and has a very good reason to happen some of the time.
I mean this question with absolute and all due respect, Quintin but, if you concur that it was going to leave the tracks in a miserable wreck - and potentially (I'm adding this on my own) cause someone to get a dismissal and more of a pain in the butt for us on this side of the road, why would we not kill it early?
Before you say it though... it would, indeed, be like a cop pulling over a Lambo and giving him a ticket for speeding even though he was going 53 in a 55 zone....
It's a fair arguement, sir. I just disagree that it's not needed sometimes.
I mean this question with absolute and all due respect, Quintin but, if you concur that it was going to leave the tracks in a miserable wreck - and potentially (I'm adding this on my own) cause someone to get a dismissal and more of a pain in the butt for us on this side of the road, why would we not kill it early?
Before you say it though... it would, indeed, be like a cop pulling over a Lambo and giving him a ticket for speeding even though he was going 53 in a 55 zone....
It's a fair arguement, sir. I just disagree that it's not needed sometimes.
Okay, I won't disagree with the determination that the thread was gonna go to hell, but it should have been killed right there; don't tell folks that "I have a premonition of how this will end," or "I'll give it a few more hours, the boys need to vent." Regardless of the meaning of these words, they aren't gonna sit well with a lot of people, and they're disrespectful to a certain point. Maybe it's just my interpretation, but there's a certain amount of smugness, a certain amount of "I'm-better-than-you" with the way those posts were worded.
Sure, it's just words, it's just the internet, but as a moderator, you're a representative of the site you moderate, you know that better than anyone. Utmost professionalism should be shown; you may be a babysitter, looking over a bunch of kids, but you don't have to act like one to the forum members in the process.
Honestly, given the topic matter at hand, according to past threads rehashed many times, it's not really a negotiable subject at this point and it should have been locked immediately with an explanation (no matter how many times we've heard it), not just "I think this has run its course." Letting the thing run seven pages before a lock, it's almost as if the thread was allowed to go as long as it did for the purpose of entertainment, not for the purpose of airing out a question or a suggestion (as stupid as it was).
I sometimes spend about 3 nights away from home due to work. This site keeps me out of trouble. My wife has never asked, or even looked for that matter.... But I have given her an open invitation to see where, and what I am doing. The pasts three nights, I have racked up the post count. I was being a good boy, and tormenting a few in this forum
... This site, is proof of what I have been up to.
I do not like everyone who is a member of this forum, nor does everyone believe me to be the "Man of the Year". What I do enjoy, is the discourse with those who oppose my thoughts and beliefs. Some of the guys that I originally disliked, I now call friends.
Raoul is crazy, anyone who supports Obama has to be...
Yet I believe that he put it best months ago. He said "If this site becomes X rated, I am gone." Lots of us will follow his suit. I am not in the minority when I say that many would miss him.
Remember, we are all in someone else's house when we enter this forum. When you are in your own home, you are welcome to do as you please.
Guys, please quit whining about deleted post. Let Stealth and Roclk
... This site, is proof of what I have been up to.I do not like everyone who is a member of this forum, nor does everyone believe me to be the "Man of the Year". What I do enjoy, is the discourse with those who oppose my thoughts and beliefs. Some of the guys that I originally disliked, I now call friends.
Raoul is crazy, anyone who supports Obama has to be...
Yet I believe that he put it best months ago. He said "If this site becomes X rated, I am gone." Lots of us will follow his suit. I am not in the minority when I say that many would miss him.Remember, we are all in someone else's house when we enter this forum. When you are in your own home, you are welcome to do as you please.
Guys, please quit whining about deleted post. Let Stealth and Roclk
so if you poke fun at someone, should the thread be deleted?
i mean, if the person didnt think it was funny, it could lead to a verbal fight.
a verbal fight would most likely contain some strong language.
strong language is against the rules, thus needing to be deleted.
it recent threads we were asked not to get into heated discussions about polital views. poking fun at someones political party shouldnt be overlooked either.
1) This site does NOT need to make any changes to appease those that feel a different direction would be more to their liking.
Why? You joined a free site that had ESTABLISHED rules that you agreed to before you joined. Maybe it is time for some to move on because they have gained the knowledge that they sought, and other avenues are in order due to their elevated expertise. They must have simply outgrown the rest of us, and are too advanced to tolerate the elementary questions that are continually posted.
2) This site does not need a "****, or adult forum."
Why? You have to be a complete moron, and inept at finding other sites if one is in need of getting their jollies. Adult content is everywhere on the web for those who seek it.
There are three types of forum members...
a. Those who want a clean site, and will leave if it changes.
b. Those who want this site to have an "Adult" forum, and will not leave even if it does not happen.
c. Those who will leave because they cannot have their desires satisfied.
The A's and B's are the majority. The C's will be missed. Somewhat...
3) Cursing, should remain filtered. If you dislike it, then refer to Section 2 line C.
Why? Those that can only convey their emotions with four letter words are weak minded to begin with. Inventing new and creative ways to express that others should explore animal husbandry in a way that is not explicit is much more desirable
I have more, but I need to be attentive to my 2 year old daughter. See ya shortly...
Why? You joined a free site that had ESTABLISHED rules that you agreed to before you joined. Maybe it is time for some to move on because they have gained the knowledge that they sought, and other avenues are in order due to their elevated expertise. They must have simply outgrown the rest of us, and are too advanced to tolerate the elementary questions that are continually posted.
2) This site does not need a "****, or adult forum."
Why? You have to be a complete moron, and inept at finding other sites if one is in need of getting their jollies. Adult content is everywhere on the web for those who seek it.
There are three types of forum members...
a. Those who want a clean site, and will leave if it changes.
b. Those who want this site to have an "Adult" forum, and will not leave even if it does not happen.
c. Those who will leave because they cannot have their desires satisfied.
The A's and B's are the majority. The C's will be missed. Somewhat...
3) Cursing, should remain filtered. If you dislike it, then refer to Section 2 line C.
Why? Those that can only convey their emotions with four letter words are weak minded to begin with. Inventing new and creative ways to express that others should explore animal husbandry in a way that is not explicit is much more desirable

I have more, but I need to be attentive to my 2 year old daughter. See ya shortly...
Last edited by chris1450; Aug 7, 2008 at 10:58 PM.
i agree on banning the trolls like wantsahemi.
And before you guys do it, don't call me a troll. I don't make threads talking about omg my v6 frontier is sooooooo fast please listen to my talk about my truck omg omg. I simply often compare the frontier to the ranger when the discussion comes about. I do not cram the frontier down peoples throat saying BUY THIS TRUCK YOU MOTHER ****ERS. The one thread i made showcasing pics was because i had just gotten a new cover ( a cover available for the f150 ) and it was very clean so i was showcasing some nice pics i took. If the topic of the fusion is up, and i tell someone to check out the altima, it's not like im telling someone that is trying to get an f150 to get a titan.
There are people like SMIGGS who can never be wrong, and it's plain stupid the way they act like toyota is their first born child. I like nissan sure, but if i could have gotten back into an f150 i would obviously be driving an f150.
People like SMIGGS and Wantsahemi are the asses that get me banned
.
And before you guys do it, don't call me a troll. I don't make threads talking about omg my v6 frontier is sooooooo fast please listen to my talk about my truck omg omg. I simply often compare the frontier to the ranger when the discussion comes about. I do not cram the frontier down peoples throat saying BUY THIS TRUCK YOU MOTHER ****ERS. The one thread i made showcasing pics was because i had just gotten a new cover ( a cover available for the f150 ) and it was very clean so i was showcasing some nice pics i took. If the topic of the fusion is up, and i tell someone to check out the altima, it's not like im telling someone that is trying to get an f150 to get a titan.
There are people like SMIGGS who can never be wrong, and it's plain stupid the way they act like toyota is their first born child. I like nissan sure, but if i could have gotten back into an f150 i would obviously be driving an f150.
People like SMIGGS and Wantsahemi are the asses that get me banned
.
I understand your frustration, Quintin... To be totally honest, I know that I've used that same 'close out' on a thread or six. Maybe it's not the best way to do it -- like I said, I've done it several times -- but, it happend.
I know that's a horrible explanation. I'm sorry. It's just how it went down... We'll genuinely try to do better. Sometimes it's better to say nothing at all... I sure as heck need to learn that.
I know that's a horrible explanation. I'm sorry. It's just how it went down... We'll genuinely try to do better. Sometimes it's better to say nothing at all... I sure as heck need to learn that.
so if you poke fun at someone, should the thread be deleted?
i mean, if the person didnt think it was funny, it could lead to a verbal fight.
a verbal fight would most likely contain some strong language.
strong language is against the rules, thus needing to be deleted.
it recent threads we were asked not to get into heated discussions about polital views. poking fun at someones political party shouldnt be overlooked either.

i mean, if the person didnt think it was funny, it could lead to a verbal fight.
a verbal fight would most likely contain some strong language.
strong language is against the rules, thus needing to be deleted.
it recent threads we were asked not to get into heated discussions about polital views. poking fun at someones political party shouldnt be overlooked either.

so if you poke fun at someone, should the thread be deleted?
i mean, if the person didnt think it was funny, it could lead to a verbal fight.
a verbal fight would most likely contain some strong language.
strong language is against the rules, thus needing to be deleted.
it recent threads we were asked not to get into heated discussions about polital views. poking fun at someones political party shouldnt be overlooked either.

i mean, if the person didnt think it was funny, it could lead to a verbal fight.
a verbal fight would most likely contain some strong language.
strong language is against the rules, thus needing to be deleted.
it recent threads we were asked not to get into heated discussions about polital views. poking fun at someones political party shouldnt be overlooked either.

It's tough to apply, rednoved. Common sense has to prevail sometimes... the problem with that is that what is very blatently obvious to one guy is a subject that the next guy is oblivious to...
Consistency is something that we can strive for as moderators but, we'll never be perfect. It remains in the hands of the individual moderator to make the call and attempt to use his/her best judgment. It's subjective... no way to hurdle that one.
1) This site does NOT need to make any changes to appease those that feel a different direction would be more to their liking.
Why? You joined a free site that had ESTABLISHED rules that you agreed to before you joined. Maybe it is time for some to move on because they have gained the knowledge that they sought, and other avenues are in order due to their elevated expertise. They must have simply outgrown the rest of us, and are too advanced to tolerate the elementary questions that are continually posted.
2) This site does not need a "****, or adult forum."
Why? You have to be a complete moron, and inept at finding other sites if one is in need of getting their jollies. Adult content is everywhere on the web for those who seek it.
There are three types of forum members...
a. Those who want a clean site, and will leave if it changes.
b. Those who want this site to have an "Adult" forum, and will not leave even if it does not happen.
c. Those who will leave because they cannot have their desires satisfied.
The A's and B's are the majority. The C's will be missed. Somewhat...
3) Cursing, should remain filtered. If you dislike it, then refer to Section 2 line C.
Why? Those that can only convey their emotions with four letter words are weak minded to begin with. Inventing new and creative ways to express that others should explore animal husbandry in a way that is not explicit is much more desirable
I have more, but I need to be attentive to my 2 year old daughter. See ya shortly...
Why? You joined a free site that had ESTABLISHED rules that you agreed to before you joined. Maybe it is time for some to move on because they have gained the knowledge that they sought, and other avenues are in order due to their elevated expertise. They must have simply outgrown the rest of us, and are too advanced to tolerate the elementary questions that are continually posted.
2) This site does not need a "****, or adult forum."
Why? You have to be a complete moron, and inept at finding other sites if one is in need of getting their jollies. Adult content is everywhere on the web for those who seek it.
There are three types of forum members...
a. Those who want a clean site, and will leave if it changes.
b. Those who want this site to have an "Adult" forum, and will not leave even if it does not happen.
c. Those who will leave because they cannot have their desires satisfied.
The A's and B's are the majority. The C's will be missed. Somewhat...
3) Cursing, should remain filtered. If you dislike it, then refer to Section 2 line C.
Why? Those that can only convey their emotions with four letter words are weak minded to begin with. Inventing new and creative ways to express that others should explore animal husbandry in a way that is not explicit is much more desirable

I have more, but I need to be attentive to my 2 year old daughter. See ya shortly...
i cant recall a time i have posted pictures that would be questionable or even border line. i am pretty good about language. i may have slipped once or twice. i know i did when some random guy called me a tool. haha. and he started it. i just finished.
id be lying if i said i didnt like stirring pots.
It's not so much frustration, RP, I think it leans more towards disappointment, with a pinch of frustration. We're all human, and I ain't doubting your grip or anyone elses' on the moderator staff.
Change is inevitable, and usually needs some time for things to settle in. As I said in another thread, I'll reserve (full) judgment until some time passes, see how things pan out in the coming months.
Change is inevitable, and usually needs some time for things to settle in. As I said in another thread, I'll reserve (full) judgment until some time passes, see how things pan out in the coming months.
i think this site needs either a chatroom or a shoutbox at the top of the discussion forums page. I dont mean a little dinky 200x200 shoutbox. I mean a 300 pixel tall, across the entire page shoutbox, kind of like a chatroom built right into the main forum.
It would result in less stupid threads and maybe a little less chaos.
It would result in less stupid threads and maybe a little less chaos.
Appreciated, Quintin.
_________ unrelated to Quintin's post _________
I've conversed with several folks via PM over the past few days regarding multiple issues. If ANYONE wants to PM me with stuff about the site, I will respond and will be sincere, open, and honest... all I ask is that you don't bark at me and bring your case in a manner that is straight forward and without a level of aggressivness.
_________ unrelated to Quintin's post _________
I've conversed with several folks via PM over the past few days regarding multiple issues. If ANYONE wants to PM me with stuff about the site, I will respond and will be sincere, open, and honest... all I ask is that you don't bark at me and bring your case in a manner that is straight forward and without a level of aggressivness.
i think this site needs either a chatroom or a shoutbox at the top of the discussion forums page. I dont mean a little dinky 200x200 shoutbox. I mean a 300 pixel tall, across the entire page shoutbox, kind of like a chatroom built right into the main forum.
It would result in less stupid threads and maybe a little less chaos.
It would result in less stupid threads and maybe a little less chaos.
Honestly, I concur that a chatroom would be a good add but, again, what about the people who can't conduct themselves in an adult manner? Really though, to that point, I'm not sure it's even an option now that the Captains have changed.
i agree on banning the trolls like wantsahemi.
And before you guys do it, don't call me a troll. I don't make threads talking about omg my v6 frontier is sooooooo fast please listen to my talk about my truck omg omg. I simply often compare the frontier to the ranger when the discussion comes about. I do not cram the frontier down peoples throat saying BUY THIS TRUCK YOU MOTHER ****ERS. The one thread i made showcasing pics was because i had just gotten a new cover ( a cover available for the f150 ) and it was very clean so i was showcasing some nice pics i took. If the topic of the fusion is up, and i tell someone to check out the altima, it's not like im telling someone that is trying to get an f150 to get a titan.
There are people like SMIGGS who can never be wrong, and it's plain stupid the way they act like toyota is their first born child. I like nissan sure, but if i could have gotten back into an f150 i would obviously be driving an f150.
People like SMIGGS and Wantsahemi are the asses that get me banned
.
And before you guys do it, don't call me a troll. I don't make threads talking about omg my v6 frontier is sooooooo fast please listen to my talk about my truck omg omg. I simply often compare the frontier to the ranger when the discussion comes about. I do not cram the frontier down peoples throat saying BUY THIS TRUCK YOU MOTHER ****ERS. The one thread i made showcasing pics was because i had just gotten a new cover ( a cover available for the f150 ) and it was very clean so i was showcasing some nice pics i took. If the topic of the fusion is up, and i tell someone to check out the altima, it's not like im telling someone that is trying to get an f150 to get a titan.
There are people like SMIGGS who can never be wrong, and it's plain stupid the way they act like toyota is their first born child. I like nissan sure, but if i could have gotten back into an f150 i would obviously be driving an f150.
People like SMIGGS and Wantsahemi are the asses that get me banned
.


