Well put, Shines. I appreciate that.

 

Ok then IMO the strait up ****/**** should get canned ASAP It has no place here.. but maybe the threads that skirt the line should get a second mod to approve the lock/delete. IDK Just a thought maybe it won't work

 

I guess I haven't noticed any real changes in policy here. If anyone has been around to other "automotive" boards, this place is actually quite refreshing with the exception of the General Discussion forum.

The GD section has gone downhill NOT because of management, but because of all the whining. Everyone likes to push the envelope once in awhile, but it used to be done in fun. Jamz, UC, D, Bill (can't remember his handle),Kobi, Hersh, Raoul, even Quintin and the like could all put a slapdown on someone to where they had to laugh too, but then a bunch of whiney newby's came in and got twisted over little comments.

Then came the porno pushers who make it so I have to screen any thread before I feel comfortable letting my kids in eyeshot of the computer.

What exactly is "Adult" about swearing like a sailor and posting stupid pictures of people who have no respect for themselves?

You have a tough job RP. You'll never please all of us. Just do what you think is right and don't worry about us. Those who like it enough will stay, and those who don't will continue to whine about any other board they go to anyway.

For F150 info, this place is the bomb!

 

I agree with this. A preemptive lock is rather asinine, IMO, and serves no purpose other than internet **** swinging. The posts made by the moderator in question, IMO, was just a public display of power - i.e. "I don't really know how this thread is gonna go, and I don't care, I'm gonna make an assumption and lock it down after 'x' period of time." That little bit influenced me a lot in regards to our new moderator, and frankly, not for the better.

Should the thread have been locked? Probably; the thread admittedly would have turned into a train wreck around page 7 or 8 I imagine. I do not agree with the situation or condition upon which it was locked though. It's damn near impossible minus a few grievous exceptions to determine how a thread is gonna pan out, given all the personalities and posters we have here, without letting it run its course, for better or worse. That is the point of a forum, is it not? To discuss topics amongst several individuals, with differing opinions?

I would have rather had the moderator just keep quiet and let the damn thing run its course for a while, then lock it down. Telling us that it's gonna be locked accomplishes nothing. Absolutely nothing.

 

Quintin -- lots of the time, we don't have time to sit here and watch it leave the tracks. I respectfully disagree that it's internet '**** swinging' with power... it does serve a purpose and has a very good reason to happen some of the time.

I mean this question with absolute and all due respect, Quintin but, if you concur that it was going to leave the tracks in a miserable wreck - and potentially (I'm adding this on my own) cause someone to get a dismissal and more of a pain in the butt for us on this side of the road, why would we not kill it early?

Before you say it though... it would, indeed, be like a cop pulling over a Lambo and giving him a ticket for speeding even though he was going 53 in a 55 zone....

It's a fair arguement, sir. I just disagree that it's not needed sometimes.

 

The only complaint I have is why do all the TROLL'S get to roam freely around this site? I'm fairly new to this site and I have noticed a bunch of post's made by WANTSAHEMI and he is still running around here stirring the pot! I'm not trying to promote pornography or bending of any rules but if your gonna discipline member's for posting dirty word's then you should stick to your word and ban the TROLL's that don't have anything positive to say around here!

 

I'm totally with you there, Slingshot. What I - and the other mods - would ask here is that you help us police the site. I promise you that we can't read every post here... no way in heck we could do it.

By self-policing, use the button aside each post on the site. If you see something that warrants a look from us, click it and report the post.

Sometimes you'll note that we remove the post... other times you may never see the person again. *shrugs*... sometimes you'll see nothing done.

Rest assured that, if you report it, it'll get a look. All that we ask is that no one abuse the feature. That has rarely been the case but, it has happend.

Thanks, Sling.

-RP-

 

My opinion is that this is one of the most helpful Ford truck sites available. There are a lot of knowledgeable people here willing to help out whenever they can for people they have never met.

The membership has changed. There are a group that expect instant help and are argumentative if they do not like the FREE help they are given. There is also a trend towards young guns that foster the disrespectful nature we have been seeing lately. Respect is something that should be given automatically to all people. It is only taken away when someone does something to warrant disrespect. Some of the kids today think that they do not have to treat people they never met with respect because that person hasn't earned it yet. That is backwards. Imagine how bad the world would be if we truly disrespected everyone until we got to know them. I commend the young members that are respectful of others. I know a lot of us long time members appreciate it. We were young once too.
None that I can think of. I enjoyed the Hot chick thread but at the end of its life **** was being posted and I can go to other sites for that.
I did not think Thump deserved it but that was cleared up. The others deserved it.
I did not see them all as some were removed before i logged back in so I cannot cite any.
I would strongly caution IB to look at the huge failure that FTW has become since TEN took over. It has become nothing more than a data miner for the advertisers at the expense of the dwindling membership. IB needs to be mindful that without members they are not going to make any money off of their advertisers and will have to close up shop. The only site upgrades that get done should be for the benefit of the members. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
I think you have done a good job in spite of the crap that gets piled on you.
As long as the rules are fairly applied to all by all mods there should be no problems. You cannot have rules in all forums except one. Creating a special forum where the rules are loosely enforced just weakens the rules and makes them harder for a mod to fairly enforce.

 

Norm... man, that is SPOT on. Thank you for that post.

Just a note or two... Thumper's ban was removed within a couple of minutes. Again, it was caused because of a cursory view of the problematic thread. Once I took the time to go through it, if Thump was dismissed, I would've had to have removed about 20 people... hahaha... Thump's ban was incorrect - as would've been the other 19.

The TEN comparison is INCREDIBLY good.

It's tough to have every moderator singing from the same sheet of music but, for the most part, a small staff (as we currently have and have had over the -- well, for as long as I've been a moderator -- I was the last moderator added to the site until Stealth joined a few days ago) and have been very successful.

 

The same rules for everyone, across the board. I've seen mods skirt the lanuguage filter.

If someone posts a complaint about the new upgrades, mods shouldn't be replying "super-tee-duper". If a response can't be given any better than that, let someone else handle it.

I'm jumping on the "adult section" bandwagon although I do recall Hersh making some threads with some pretty ladies in it and nothing happening to those threads. I don't see any problem with posting a pretty face now and then. Now this isn't the place for pics with nether regions covered by iPods, but there's nothing wrong with a bathing suit. Kids see that and more on TV and at the beach/pool/etc.

I really don't think anyone here is out to take this site down.

 

I used to work as a bartender/bouncer in this little country bar in my hometown. I showed up to work at 4pm everyday and started prepping. The bar opened at 5pm and the regulars (all of them) showed up within 30 minutes.

They were all a real good bunch of people. Granted, they were total alcoholics, but still good people.

The vast majority of the time, everybody got along just fine.

Well, for about a month or so, a couple of the more exciting regulars didn't make it to the bar. Things got kinda dull. Well, one night everybody was particularly soused and the "local bar *****" decided she should lay down on the pool table in a less-than-subtle position. Another patron decided he should take the pool chalk and draw an outline of her on the felt.

Of course, I jumped in and recommended that they stop. They didn't. I then insisted that they stop. They didn't. I then threatened to bounce them both out and bar them for 2 weeks. They stopped.

Then, they returned to their seats, continued drinking and started complaining about how much of an *** I was. Things were tense for a couple of weeks. It wasn't pleasant. But it passed.

Nowhere in the bar was it posted that it was against the rules to draw chalk outlines on the pool table. Was I wrong to shut it down? I don't think so. Were they wrong to push the envelope? Maybe, but they were bored.

Things get out of whack from time to time. It takes awhile to balance back out. From up here in the cheap seats, I think the GD forum got dull. Then it got REAL exciting. The mods decided to try to balance it back out. Now, we're dealing with the fallout.

It's the natural way of all things, not just an internet forum.

 

the point I was trying to make is the sentence you used here is far more descriptive and to the point then the term I used again with the double entrende if you know what it means its a funny term, if you dont you are just going to scratch your head, as I can see we are not going to see eye to eye on this I will try to refrain from revisiting this argument

 

Fair statement. I'll admit guilt here to a certain extent - I've sure as heck done it within PM's. The main filtered word that I target is 'F'. I tend to overlook many of the others -- it's not necessarily fair but, to that point, repremands have only been put out with regard to the F-bomb.

Again, fair enough. Generally speaking, it was a poor choice of response on my part. It stirred the pot and was unprofessional on my part. I apologize for it... sometimes you go in to overload and 'I don't care' mode, though. That's my only excuse... poor but, true.

Agreed... to a point. Hersh's posts and many of the other threads of that nature was the exact reason that the policy was set forth to not allow them at all. Those did exist at one time but, due to the abuse (like the pictures that you cited) the sweeping decision was made to not allow any of them.

Sometimes they slip through the cracks or are inadvertently overlooked... we'll try to do that a little more efficiently but, it'd be nice if we didn't have to police them at all -- that being because it's policy - and has been since 2005.

Thanks for your comments, Ian. You've always stood out as a person here that seemed to have a pretty good grip on things here and you've pointed out some good thoughts...

-RP-

 

I'm glad you're stepping up and cleaning things up Rockpick. I wouldn't say we were in a downward Spiral, but definitely not heading in the right direction.

When did people think it was suddenly OK to use the F word, regardless of how "cleverly" disguised it was? I come here to get AWAY from that stuff..

There's plenty of "Adult" forums out there. I don't think you need one here at all.

 

I sometimes spend about 3 nights away from home due to work. This site keeps me out of trouble. My wife has never asked, or even looked for that matter.... But I have given her an open invitation to see where, and what I am doing. The pasts three nights, I have racked up the post count. I was being a good boy, and tormenting a few in this forum... This site, is proof of what I have been up to.

I do not like everyone who is a member of this forum, nor does everyone believe me to be the "Man of the Year". What I do enjoy, is the discourse with those who oppose my thoughts and beliefs. Some of the guys that I originally disliked, I now call friends.

Raoul is crazy, anyone who supports Obama has to be... Yet I believe that he put it best months ago. He said "If this site becomes X rated, I am gone." Lots of us will follow his suit. I am not in the minority when I say that many would miss him.

Remember, we are all in someone else's house when we enter this forum. When you are in your own home, you are welcome to do as you please.

Guys, please quit whining about deleted post. Let Stealth and Rockpick do their bidding.