I skipped ahead so forgive me if the topic has changed. My opinion on global warming is it might be happening and it might be caused by humans, but not in the manner everyone thinks. Just about everything we do causes heat, even if we obtained our energy from completely nonpolluting sources. Think about it all of your electronics, your car's motor, you, just about everything we do causes heat. This heat has to dissipate into, you guessed it the air. If you gather enough people to gather in a gym it will heat up. If you gather enough computer equipment into a room it will also heat up. This can bee seen in the large cities, where the weekend temperatures are cooler than the middle of the work week.

We all breath out CO2, and we are cutting down many trees to clear land to support all of the humans on the planet. This will have the end result of producing more CO2 while decreasing the amount of plants to use up the CO2.

I think we might be causing some warming, but the only way to stop it would be to get rid of some of the humans.

 

No human knows God's clock.

 

The above is part of Canada's new Federal Budget as announced today. If it passes there will be up to a $4,000.00 "green levy" on gas guzzlers. On the news tonight they described gas guzzlers as any full sized pickup truck and SUV's. So I guess anyone in Canada thinking about buying a new F150 or any other new truck better start shopping now in case this passes. Hopefully it won't pass. In fact, the entire budget may very well trigger an election which will make the budget null and void.

Ok, looks like they are "taking measures". I hope it spreads to a nation near you soon. After all, we don't know if we are or are not contributing to GW. It would be foolhardy for everyone else not to share the burden through their next truck purchase.

I agree. Plus look at all the new money the government will rake in. I guess a 9 billion dollar surplus wasn't enough last year.

You think they will stop at a green levy on trucks?

Bingo

 

True dat. I've should have said "I've heard rumor" about it from religious people. But like you said, nobody knows except the great "I am who I am."

Religion is Faith. What are these "facts" you speak of? Earthly facts and knowledge? That's just the hear-say of man-kind. You have no idea of the power of the one you debate against. You probably thinks it's funny now, but he will test you, he will make you cower in fear, and he will try his hardest to make you bow to him. There's another player in the game trying to do the same thing. Except only he takes the easy way and feeds you full of lies with his deception to try to win your soul. I'd want to be on the Big man's team if I were you. You want to know why? Because he threw that little b!tch Satan out of Heaven and down to Earth like a little tramp because he thought he was greater than him. Guess what? Now he's wondering to and fro on Earth just waiting for an opportunity to take advantage of you, and you're giving in.

 

At first I thought you were talking about Al Gore. My mistake.

 

Please Note, I said Religion, Not Christianity. They ALL can't be right. The Mormon's have their beliefs, the Muslims, the Jews. It's Faith. Who am I to judge.

I'm cool where I'm at with God. Don't worry about me.

 

Just remember the word religion is man made as are the many religions. In my personal book of faith, the bible, the word religion can't be found. The truth is in the bible only, not the other books of faith.

 

Could be, but the basis of my religion of choice is faith in God and the fact that Jesus died for our sins. Men/mankind are/is flawed.

 

Not as I know it.

God knows how he's going to fix GW, we don't.

 

You're putting words into my mouth. It's up to every person to believe what they choose as far as beliefs in God or a religion goes, and that doesn't make my beliefs right or wrong as it does for everyone else.

 

The way I see it, it's all Chance. If you happened to be born in India with the other Billion Indians, and you're Parents were both Muslims, and everyone around you were Muslims, You'd Probably be a Muslim. And it sounds like a Devout one at that!

Or if you were born in China, or Israel, or Africa, or 3000 years ago...

I agree with you though. Man IS Inherantly Flawed...

 

Yeah, it is quite boring, but at least we aren't driving around aimlessly out of boredon all the while polluting.

 

True, but it's all a personal choice in the end. There are different belief options than what your religious may have been.

 

Global Warming is natural, has been for millions of years, before humans walked on mother Earth…

If it wasn’t for “natural” Global Warming how do you think we would have got out of the Ice Age?

Do we contribute? Nobody, NOBODY know’s, NOBODY has any “real” or “solid” scientific facts to prove one way or the other. However, the way I look at it is it doesn’t really matter if we are or not since it’s a “natural” event anyways. Worst case is we boosted Global Warming by a few 1 millionths of a percent, in other words there is not really much any human, or all humans, could do to change weather and heating/cooling cycles.

Do you think if we got all the humans together at the precise time and had everyone shift their weight to the east we could change the rotational axis Earth is spinning on?

 

so what caused the cooling/warming over the history of earth? In the 1600's the temp was warmer than it is now... how did that happen? we weren't industrialized then. In the 1970's they were screaming about the comming ice age. Since they started measuring the temp of the earth with satalite technology 18 years ago the temp of the earth is going DOWN. The best estimate of our contribution of carbon dioxide to the atmospher is about 4% of the total. The rest occurs naturally. That is what we have plants for. The GW crowd is nothing more than socialistic. That is there new grab on power to control our actions. period. Use some common sense.