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For all the crazies who think the sky is falling...
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...s-warming.html
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Truth is...
There isn't enough evidence to support either claim. Whether that claim be that we are in someway contributing to global warming, or if it is a natural cycle. If it's natural, enjoy the ride... If it's not natural, let's fix it.
Six in one hand, half-dozen in the other.
Since we don't know if we are or are not contributing to global warming, I think it would be foolhardy to sit back and believe we are not, rather than take measures to do the best we can to ensure we aren't. In order to be even more effective, those same measures would need to spread to other nations- recently industrialized, who don't have EPA like agencies monitoring their region of our biosphere.
Sure, we only have about 200 years of recorded events pertaining to the weather, and fewer stil regarding the ozone layer- but, one thing is certain- the world was still in its industrial infancy in 1807, and before that (as far as we know) only a few steps above being gunter-gatherers. The world certainly wasn't being as polluted (by humans) as it is has been since the industrial revolution.
I don't lose sleep thinking about it. It would be insanely dificult to go back to a pre-industrial way of life. But, just in case we are contributing, then I think the science shoudl continue, and devlopers should find ways to ensure we continue to co-exist on this planet, with everything on this planet, and do as little environmental harm as possible.
Who knows? Remember when hearing that a person had cancer was rare. Now, statistics say 1 out of 3 people will develop some form of cancer in their lifetimes? Scary thought huh? 33.33% chance at getting the Big C. Could the rise in cancer be attributed to all those above ground nuclear tests? Radiation in our food, water, air, etc... Besides, what is an "acceptable" amount of radiation? Just because most of them were done near the Marshall islands, doesn't mean the radiation didn't fall in the USA... (Jet Stream)
Not to mention the constant, 24/7 absorbtion of RF radiation into our bodies from TV stations, radio stations, walkie talkies, cell phones, satellites, etc...
It doesn't hurt to think before doing things, or to learn ways of doing things better, smarter, and safer...
Besides, we're only one major volcanic eruption from global cooling.
Nature might save us from ourselves.
There isn't enough evidence to support either claim. Whether that claim be that we are in someway contributing to global warming, or if it is a natural cycle. If it's natural, enjoy the ride... If it's not natural, let's fix it.
Six in one hand, half-dozen in the other.
Since we don't know if we are or are not contributing to global warming, I think it would be foolhardy to sit back and believe we are not, rather than take measures to do the best we can to ensure we aren't. In order to be even more effective, those same measures would need to spread to other nations- recently industrialized, who don't have EPA like agencies monitoring their region of our biosphere.
Sure, we only have about 200 years of recorded events pertaining to the weather, and fewer stil regarding the ozone layer- but, one thing is certain- the world was still in its industrial infancy in 1807, and before that (as far as we know) only a few steps above being gunter-gatherers. The world certainly wasn't being as polluted (by humans) as it is has been since the industrial revolution.
I don't lose sleep thinking about it. It would be insanely dificult to go back to a pre-industrial way of life. But, just in case we are contributing, then I think the science shoudl continue, and devlopers should find ways to ensure we continue to co-exist on this planet, with everything on this planet, and do as little environmental harm as possible.
Who knows? Remember when hearing that a person had cancer was rare. Now, statistics say 1 out of 3 people will develop some form of cancer in their lifetimes? Scary thought huh? 33.33% chance at getting the Big C. Could the rise in cancer be attributed to all those above ground nuclear tests? Radiation in our food, water, air, etc... Besides, what is an "acceptable" amount of radiation? Just because most of them were done near the Marshall islands, doesn't mean the radiation didn't fall in the USA... (Jet Stream)
Not to mention the constant, 24/7 absorbtion of RF radiation into our bodies from TV stations, radio stations, walkie talkies, cell phones, satellites, etc...
It doesn't hurt to think before doing things, or to learn ways of doing things better, smarter, and safer...
Besides, we're only one major volcanic eruption from global cooling.
Nature might save us from ourselves.
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Originally Posted by Bighersh
Truth is...
There isn't enough evidence to support either claim. Whether that claim be that we are in someway contributing to global warming, or if it is a natural cycle. If it's natural, enjoy the ride... If it's not natural, let's fix it.
Six in one hand, half-dozen in the other.
Since we don't know if we are or are not contributing to global warming, I think it would be foolhardy to sit back and believe we are not, rather than take measures to do the best we can to ensure we aren't. In order to be even more effective, those same measures would need to spread to other nations- recently industrialized, who don't have EPA like agencies monitoring their region of our biosphere.
Sure, we only have about 200 years of recorded events pertaining to the weather, and fewer stil regarding the ozone layer- but, one thing is certain- the world was still in its industrial infancy in 1807, and before that (as far as we know) only a few steps above being gunter-gatherers. The world certainly wasn't being as polluted (by humans) as it is has been since the industrial revolution.
I don't lose sleep thinking about it. It would be insanely dificult to go back to a pre-industrial way of life. But, just in case we are contributing, then I think the science shoudl continue, and devlopers should find ways to ensure we continue to co-exist on this planet, with everything on this planet, and do as little environmental harm as possible.
Who knows? Remember when hearing that a person had cancer was rare. Now, statistics say 1 out of 3 people will develop some form of cancer in their lifetimes? Scary thought huh? 33.33% chance at getting the Big C. Could the rise in cancer be attributed to all those above ground nuclear tests? Just because most of them were done near the Marshall islands, doesn't mean the radiation didn't fall in the USA... (Jet Stream)
Doesn't hurt to think before doing things, or to learn ways of doing things better, smarter, and safer...
Besides, we're only one major volcanic eruption from global cooling.
Nature might save us from ourselves.
There isn't enough evidence to support either claim. Whether that claim be that we are in someway contributing to global warming, or if it is a natural cycle. If it's natural, enjoy the ride... If it's not natural, let's fix it.
Six in one hand, half-dozen in the other.
Since we don't know if we are or are not contributing to global warming, I think it would be foolhardy to sit back and believe we are not, rather than take measures to do the best we can to ensure we aren't. In order to be even more effective, those same measures would need to spread to other nations- recently industrialized, who don't have EPA like agencies monitoring their region of our biosphere.
Sure, we only have about 200 years of recorded events pertaining to the weather, and fewer stil regarding the ozone layer- but, one thing is certain- the world was still in its industrial infancy in 1807, and before that (as far as we know) only a few steps above being gunter-gatherers. The world certainly wasn't being as polluted (by humans) as it is has been since the industrial revolution.
I don't lose sleep thinking about it. It would be insanely dificult to go back to a pre-industrial way of life. But, just in case we are contributing, then I think the science shoudl continue, and devlopers should find ways to ensure we continue to co-exist on this planet, with everything on this planet, and do as little environmental harm as possible.
Who knows? Remember when hearing that a person had cancer was rare. Now, statistics say 1 out of 3 people will develop some form of cancer in their lifetimes? Scary thought huh? 33.33% chance at getting the Big C. Could the rise in cancer be attributed to all those above ground nuclear tests? Just because most of them were done near the Marshall islands, doesn't mean the radiation didn't fall in the USA... (Jet Stream)
Doesn't hurt to think before doing things, or to learn ways of doing things better, smarter, and safer...
Besides, we're only one major volcanic eruption from global cooling.
Nature might save us from ourselves.
I hope you didn't actually watch that and then write this.
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Originally Posted by Odin's Wrath
I hope you didn't actually watch that and then write this.
i was just speakign on GW in general.
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Originally Posted by Bighersh
No, I didn't watch either one. (You never know what you're gonna see when you click a YouTube link). it could be serious, BS, serious BS, or R-Rated.
i was just speakign on GW in general.
i was just speakign on GW in general.
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I tend to believe that GW and cooling is a naturally occurring cycle that we have very little effect on and even less control over.
I'm not opposed to reducing pollution, keeping the air and water clean, etc. I love trees and hate concrete.
However, eco-nuts and their irresponsible policies and desires and just foolish. What reasonable person would support Kyoto. Those types of treaties and protocols shackle our economy and our nation and leave nations like China free to do what they want.
The eco-nuts hate nuclear power yet it is safer and cleaner than other power supplies such as coal.
I'm not paying 50k for a zero emission pickup truck when China is running unchecked, sorry.
I'm rambling, I'm done.
I'm not opposed to reducing pollution, keeping the air and water clean, etc. I love trees and hate concrete.
However, eco-nuts and their irresponsible policies and desires and just foolish. What reasonable person would support Kyoto. Those types of treaties and protocols shackle our economy and our nation and leave nations like China free to do what they want.
The eco-nuts hate nuclear power yet it is safer and cleaner than other power supplies such as coal.
I'm not paying 50k for a zero emission pickup truck when China is running unchecked, sorry.
I'm rambling, I'm done.
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Originally Posted by vader716
I tend to believe that GW and cooling is a naturally occurring cycle that we have very little effect on and even less control over.
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Can I agree with that statement?
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
I can accept that the earth is warming.
I dont know if its human caused/pushed or not...I think its naive to believe we aren't having SOME impact.
I DO THINK that we should try our best to keep the climate as-is, I dont like drastic change, SO, we should try to preserve our current climate (by going against nature if need be). Our socieites are equiped to live with the climate we have now, no need to throw that into a blender & screw everything up
I dont know if its human caused/pushed or not...I think its naive to believe we aren't having SOME impact.
I DO THINK that we should try our best to keep the climate as-is, I dont like drastic change, SO, we should try to preserve our current climate (by going against nature if need be). Our socieites are equiped to live with the climate we have now, no need to throw that into a blender & screw everything up
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Originally Posted by Odin's Wrath
That's the whole point. WE HAVE NO CONTOL! We can't stop it, slow it, accelerate it, or meaningfully affect it.
What if it's not?
Are you sure it's not?
What makes you so sure?
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
I can accept that the earth is warming.