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Both of you get the Raptor and be done with it! The 6.2 with a tune, intake and exhaust will flat out scoot! (from the researching and asking) Plus has what you guys want on it already and different than other trim models. Plus you get bored, which ya will in a year or two. Supercharge it and be right on par or better with a EB. Def. no graphics, the blue pops nicely IMO.
Or buy the cheapest Lariat you can find ($35K) and use the money left over to bolt on a long travel setup front and rear. Come out equal to the Raptor's cost or cheaper, yet have a way better truck for in the dirt. ( I know you guys probably won't use it to the potential with this setup, yet just a option).
Or buy the cheapest Lariat you can find ($35K) and use the money left over to bolt on a long travel setup front and rear. Come out equal to the Raptor's cost or cheaper, yet have a way better truck for in the dirt. ( I know you guys probably won't use it to the potential with this setup, yet just a option).
That is great idea with the Lariat, and you're right that I would probably not use its potential with that setup (or at least not often). But then I would probably not use all the potential of the Raptor either but sure would look good trying. I should have thought about that with my FX4 but then would have had to also supercharge that 5.4L just to keep up.
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But as Desert Racer points out, we should just get the Raptor and be done with it....lol. So here's some Raptors I liked (my apologies for not remembering the forum members that have these trucks):
My favorite...blue Supercrew:
My second pick, silver Supercrew:
This just looks good...lol:
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Getting the raptor is just my take on it from the trucks you guys are considering and so am I at the end of this year. As, now this is me and how I am, yet for luxury I will get a F250 with the PSD option. A fully loaded 1/2 ton goes for $40-$45k, a fully loaded diesel for $50k. To me I WILL shell out that extra $5k-$10k and get IMO a whole lot more truck, soon be able to write it off for taxes so a bonus for me.
Now as far as the raptor is concerned I would get the biggest motor at the time the manufacture makes in a truck with the least options. As leather seats, sync, power seats, moon roof, rear window is wasted money down the drain. I am a avid off road in desert racing, I love the sport and everything about it. Hence why the push for the raptor and my opinion and take on a luxury pick up truck. I test drove a EB and 6.2 back to back for 2 hours a piece doing the same type of driving and towing. Drove for a hour on the freeway and on surface streets and towed for a hour doing the same trip. To me the 6.2 seemed to work smoother and easier over the EB. The EB seemed maxed out at times where the 6.2 powered through it. I will take the 1-2 MPG lost for the truck that doesn't work so hard. Yet I consider 1/2 tons as toys after being bitten by diesels for 6 years now.
For Both of you I vote get the raptor or you could get the EB and add bolt in coil overs and make your own version of the raptor. Yet, to me seems like you guys want performance fun truck or a luxury truck. Correct? You know what I take that back. Dawg get the raptor as often as you go through trucks as I think it may last a little longer than other trucks you have had LOL. FX I say get the EB as your current truck you plan on keeping is/will be a toy? So that way you get best of both worlds.
Now as far as the raptor is concerned I would get the biggest motor at the time the manufacture makes in a truck with the least options. As leather seats, sync, power seats, moon roof, rear window is wasted money down the drain. I am a avid off road in desert racing, I love the sport and everything about it. Hence why the push for the raptor and my opinion and take on a luxury pick up truck. I test drove a EB and 6.2 back to back for 2 hours a piece doing the same type of driving and towing. Drove for a hour on the freeway and on surface streets and towed for a hour doing the same trip. To me the 6.2 seemed to work smoother and easier over the EB. The EB seemed maxed out at times where the 6.2 powered through it. I will take the 1-2 MPG lost for the truck that doesn't work so hard. Yet I consider 1/2 tons as toys after being bitten by diesels for 6 years now.
For Both of you I vote get the raptor or you could get the EB and add bolt in coil overs and make your own version of the raptor. Yet, to me seems like you guys want performance fun truck or a luxury truck. Correct? You know what I take that back. Dawg get the raptor as often as you go through trucks as I think it may last a little longer than other trucks you have had LOL. FX I say get the EB as your current truck you plan on keeping is/will be a toy? So that way you get best of both worlds.
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Getting the raptor is just my take on it from the trucks you guys are considering and so am I at the end of this year. As, now this is me and how I am, yet for luxury I will get a F250 with the PSD option. A fully loaded 1/2 ton goes for $40-$45k, a fully loaded diesel for $50k. To me I WILL shell out that extra $5k-$10k and get IMO a whole lot more truck, soon be able to write it off for taxes so a bonus for me.
Now as far as the raptor is concerned I would get the biggest motor at the time the manufacture makes in a truck with the least options. As leather seats, sync, power seats, moon roof, rear window is wasted money down the drain. I am a avid off road in desert racing, I love the sport and everything about it. Hence why the push for the raptor and my opinion and take on a luxury pick up truck. I test drove a EB and 6.2 back to back for 2 hours a piece doing the same type of driving and towing. Drove for a hour on the freeway and on surface streets and towed for a hour doing the same trip. To me the 6.2 seemed to work smoother and easier over the EB. The EB seemed maxed out at times where the 6.2 powered through it. I will take the 1-2 MPG lost for the truck that doesn't work so hard. Yet I consider 1/2 tons as toys after being bitten by diesels for 6 years now.
For Both of you I vote get the raptor or you could get the EB and add bolt in coil overs and make your own version of the raptor. Yet, to me seems like you guys want performance fun truck or a luxury truck. Correct? You know what I take that back. Dawg get the raptor as often as you go through trucks as I think it may last a little longer than other trucks you have had LOL. FX I say get the EB as your current truck you plan on keeping is/will be a toy? So that way you get best of both worlds.
Now as far as the raptor is concerned I would get the biggest motor at the time the manufacture makes in a truck with the least options. As leather seats, sync, power seats, moon roof, rear window is wasted money down the drain. I am a avid off road in desert racing, I love the sport and everything about it. Hence why the push for the raptor and my opinion and take on a luxury pick up truck. I test drove a EB and 6.2 back to back for 2 hours a piece doing the same type of driving and towing. Drove for a hour on the freeway and on surface streets and towed for a hour doing the same trip. To me the 6.2 seemed to work smoother and easier over the EB. The EB seemed maxed out at times where the 6.2 powered through it. I will take the 1-2 MPG lost for the truck that doesn't work so hard. Yet I consider 1/2 tons as toys after being bitten by diesels for 6 years now.
For Both of you I vote get the raptor or you could get the EB and add bolt in coil overs and make your own version of the raptor. Yet, to me seems like you guys want performance fun truck or a luxury truck. Correct? You know what I take that back. Dawg get the raptor as often as you go through trucks as I think it may last a little longer than other trucks you have had LOL. FX I say get the EB as your current truck you plan on keeping is/will be a toy? So that way you get best of both worlds.
But really don't need another Powerstroke, and to be honest I am not warmed up to the new design and interior color schemes quite yet except I do like that new 6.7L (should do much better than the 6.4L which really sucked gas). But I think you got the right read on me and the 6.4L Raptor is sounding better all the time. Plus, it was my initial choice before I started second guessing myself...lol.
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I'll likely get flamed for this, but for an extreme off road truck, I'll take a 3/4 ton Dodge Power Wagon any day of the week. That way you can tow and use your truck as a truck plus have the off road capability you need. The Raptor gives up it's truck capabilities to be a dune runner.
For normal Off Roading, I'd get a 4WD XLT with the Ecoboost.
I don't go extreme Off Roading so I don't need the locker. I use my limited slip far more and since the locker is an open diff., it seems limited for normal speeds or wheel spin that's needed for snow, mud, and sand.
I'd personally get some smaller wheels with high profile tires for extra damping in the ride, add skid plates and install the shocks of your choice on a none off road XLT 4X4. If the locker has their traction control limited slip enabled all the time, in all modes, unlike the rest of the trucks, then I'd consider the locker. As it stand, in snow, mud, and sand, you need to turn off TC so that power limiting doesn't get you stuck, but this also turns off the brake limited slip on the F150s (unlike it did on my 2008 Sport Trac).
For normal Off Roading, I'd get a 4WD XLT with the Ecoboost.
I don't go extreme Off Roading so I don't need the locker. I use my limited slip far more and since the locker is an open diff., it seems limited for normal speeds or wheel spin that's needed for snow, mud, and sand.
I'd personally get some smaller wheels with high profile tires for extra damping in the ride, add skid plates and install the shocks of your choice on a none off road XLT 4X4. If the locker has their traction control limited slip enabled all the time, in all modes, unlike the rest of the trucks, then I'd consider the locker. As it stand, in snow, mud, and sand, you need to turn off TC so that power limiting doesn't get you stuck, but this also turns off the brake limited slip on the F150s (unlike it did on my 2008 Sport Trac).
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I'll likely get flamed for this, but for an extreme off road truck, I'll take a 3/4 ton Dodge Power Wagon any day of the week. That way you can tow and use your truck as a truck plus have the off road capability you need. The Raptor gives up it's truck capabilities to be a dune runner.
For normal Off Roading, I'd get a 4WD XLT with the Ecoboost.
I don't go extreme Off Roading so I don't need the locker. I use my limited slip far more and since the locker is an open diff., it seems limited for normal speeds or wheel spin that's needed for snow, mud, and sand.
I'd personally get some smaller wheels with high profile tires for extra damping in the ride, add skid plates and install the shocks of your choice on a none off road XLT 4X4. If the locker has their traction control limited slip enabled all the time, in all modes, unlike the rest of the trucks, then I'd consider the locker. As it stand, in snow, mud, and sand, you need to turn off TC so that power limiting doesn't get you stuck, but this also turns off the brake limited slip on the F150s (unlike it did on my 2008 Sport Trac).
For normal Off Roading, I'd get a 4WD XLT with the Ecoboost.
I don't go extreme Off Roading so I don't need the locker. I use my limited slip far more and since the locker is an open diff., it seems limited for normal speeds or wheel spin that's needed for snow, mud, and sand.
I'd personally get some smaller wheels with high profile tires for extra damping in the ride, add skid plates and install the shocks of your choice on a none off road XLT 4X4. If the locker has their traction control limited slip enabled all the time, in all modes, unlike the rest of the trucks, then I'd consider the locker. As it stand, in snow, mud, and sand, you need to turn off TC so that power limiting doesn't get you stuck, but this also turns off the brake limited slip on the F150s (unlike it did on my 2008 Sport Trac).
Actually, being a truck guy first and a Ford fan second, I did consider the new Power Wagon. Really is a beast of a truck that really performs well offroad. But I really do like the look and slightly smaller size of the Raptor (which is saying a lot about how big the Power Wagon is because the Raptor is no small truck by any means). But either would still be fun as I do take my vehicles out into the desert or up into the mountains.
I am probably into the luxury and features a bit more than you as I am looking for something to enjoy driving every day and not just for the weekend. Plus, in my line of business it does well to have something more than standard when hauling clients around. But I do have XLT 4X4s as fleet vehicles and they do very well when needed offroad in the field.
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I may have to venture to ABQ for some fun in the desert, its 6 or so hours west of me and I have never been. :o I hear the Indian casinos pay out better than the ones in Vegas, but with my luck no one pays out enough to cover my losses 
Plus I think it's the closest I can get to a desert if I went the Raptor route!
I may be looking the EB route, found out last night we are going to have our first addition to the family. Who knows, I guess a new truck is not the top priority at the moment(it still is #1 in the back of my head though)
Plus I think it's the closest I can get to a desert if I went the Raptor route! I may be looking the EB route, found out last night we are going to have our first addition to the family. Who knows, I guess a new truck is not the top priority at the moment(it still is #1 in the back of my head though
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Congrats man, the best joy(s) out of life! Seems like the raptor is a great choice for you or a PSD now, LOL! As the raptor will give you guys a excuse to take a road trip and not a better sport with a family friendly enviroment than off roading!
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I may have to venture to ABQ for some fun in the desert, its 6 or so hours west of me and I have never been. :o I hear the Indian casinos pay out better than the ones in Vegas, but with my luck no one pays out enough to cover my losses Plus I think it's the closest I can get to a desert if I went the Raptor route!
I may be looking the EB route, found out last night we are going to have our first addition to the family. Who knows, I guess a new truck is not the top priority at the moment(it still is #1 in the back of my head though)
Plus I think it's the closest I can get to a desert if I went the Raptor route! I may be looking the EB route, found out last night we are going to have our first addition to the family. Who knows, I guess a new truck is not the top priority at the moment(it still is #1 in the back of my head though
)If you decide on something, you're going to have to let us know. But good luck on the new addition....hope all goes well!
Amen to that!
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Thanks guys, didnt mean
To derail the thread. It was something we weren't expecting so quickly. It kinda changes the thought process a bit. The ol lady is still down for the raptor and ask me what changed she likes raps over the other f150's!
I am down for some off road adventures anytime! I won't treat a raptor like my current rig, I'd love to put it off the pavement at a moments notice..
To derail the thread. It was something we weren't expecting so quickly. It kinda changes the thought process a bit. The ol lady is still down for the raptor and ask me what changed
she likes raps over the other f150's! I am down for some off road adventures anytime! I won't treat a raptor like my current rig, I'd love to put it off the pavement at a moments notice..
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I have about 6-8k worth of bills coming in from having the big red truck repaired/rebuilt after everything in the drivetrain failed me at once... I am checking them off as they come to me. my optimal time to buy was this summer probably around the end of May or later. I am too indecisive on color, configuration, etc... I like the scab in certain colors, and the screw in other colors. Part of me wants the scab to stay true to raptor form, but part of me wants the screw for the room. Like Dawg said, decision..decisions and I am terrible at them :o
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Ouch on the repair bills! I feel your pain on trying to make up your mind on a certain something once you have narrowed it down to 2-3 out of 10-15 choices. Yes the scab is optimal for performance, yet the crewcab will be sufficient and honestly do you plan to thrash the truck? I would get the crewcab in silver or blue if it was me. Crewcab as it is nice and easy to get to the back seat. On long roads the added wheel base helps make the truck stay planted and stable. Just the extra room in the interior is nice. I have a scab and at times I wish I would have gotten a crewcab. The colors I think look best, the silver hides scorches real nice and paint chips too. I have wanted a blue vehicle for 2 years now, I don't know what it is about it, LOL.
See if your dealer will let you take a scab and crewcab for test drives for a day and see what you like better. My vote is you will go with the crewcab, that added space more than makes up for the loss of performance over the scab. It isn't much of a loss for 90% of the raptor drives with the added length of the crewcab. if you have a lot of turns constantly, than yes the scab is the way to go.
See if your dealer will let you take a scab and crewcab for test drives for a day and see what you like better. My vote is you will go with the crewcab, that added space more than makes up for the loss of performance over the scab. It isn't much of a loss for 90% of the raptor drives with the added length of the crewcab. if you have a lot of turns constantly, than yes the scab is the way to go.
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Ouch on the repair bills! I feel your pain on trying to make up your mind on a certain something once you have narrowed it down to 2-3 out of 10-15 choices. Yes the scab is optimal for performance, yet the crewcab will be sufficient and honestly do you plan to thrash the truck? I would get the crewcab in silver or blue if it was me. Crewcab as it is nice and easy to get to the back seat. On long roads the added wheel base helps make the truck stay planted and stable. Just the extra room in the interior is nice. I have a scab and at times I wish I would have gotten a crewcab. The colors I think look best, the silver hides scorches real nice and paint chips too. I have wanted a blue vehicle for 2 years now, I don't know what it is about it, LOL.
See if your dealer will let you take a scab and crewcab for test drives for a day and see what you like better. My vote is you will go with the crewcab, that added space more than makes up for the loss of performance over the scab. It isn't much of a loss for 90% of the raptor drives with the added length of the crewcab. if you have a lot of turns constantly, than yes the scab is the way to go.
See if your dealer will let you take a scab and crewcab for test drives for a day and see what you like better. My vote is you will go with the crewcab, that added space more than makes up for the loss of performance over the scab. It isn't much of a loss for 90% of the raptor drives with the added length of the crewcab. if you have a lot of turns constantly, than yes the scab is the way to go.
Also, DR has my two favorite colors already chosen; either the blue or the silver. I am still trying to figure out which will look best with the mods I have planned. So if the lady is good, let's pick a color!
Sorry about those repair bills too....another reason to get into something you don't have to worry about for awhile, especially if you're toting a young family around (that excuse always worked for me anyway...lol).
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I put all the danged repairs on cc's and decided to just let them ride till they came due. I almost have that all taken care of though... thankfully. It was not my first choice to dump all that dough into it, but I also didn't want to leave it sitting around needing this and that.
I am totally with you guys on the crew cab, except the best offers I am getting are in the 52-54k range fully loaded minus the graphics/orange seats... I still need to contact Randy Wilson to see what he can do. I know I can get a better price than those!
I have one offer for a loaded FX4 EB at about 40k or so, but I can use an A-plan here and dip well below that.
I love the blue on this truck (the light hits it just right!)... They are FX4's, I know, but I was mainly looking at colors
Blue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is8hBQxqjQo
Silver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRX7aTFf-Uo
White:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-l5Zep0w9M
Only time will tell I guess. I want the raptor, bad! But I guess I also need to get real about certain things... its not just me and the lady anymore. My cash, credit, minimal savings, have what I want when I want might have to cut back a bit
I am totally with you guys on the crew cab, except the best offers I am getting are in the 52-54k range fully loaded minus the graphics/orange seats... I still need to contact Randy Wilson to see what he can do. I know I can get a better price than those!
I have one offer for a loaded FX4 EB at about 40k or so, but I can use an A-plan here and dip well below that.
I love the blue on this truck (the light hits it just right!)... They are FX4's, I know, but I was mainly looking at colors
Blue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is8hBQxqjQo
Silver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRX7aTFf-Uo
White:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-l5Zep0w9M
Only time will tell I guess. I want the raptor, bad! But I guess I also need to get real about certain things... its not just me and the lady anymore. My cash, credit, minimal savings, have what I want when I want might have to cut back a bit