Wow, long thread.... good too.... I have an 05 Titan and have pretty much found my opinion exactly within this thread.

The powertrain is great, really it's the 5spd auto..... if/when Ford gets it, I'll be back. The Titan's increase in HP in 07 is marketing bs.... it was under-rated from the start so they could claim an increase. The infiniti with the same engine has always been rated at 317hp.

The interior and ride is nowhere near as nice as the F150.

The visibility is poor. I'm tall and have a hard time seeing past the tint strip at the top of the windshield but have got used to it. It actually seems that the new F150's are smaller than my 99 was. I really had more legroom in that 99.... it was nice.

The power rear window is cool.... it reminds me of an old toyota 4runner I had. Nothing like being able to get some good cross-flow of air through the truck quickly.

In the end, it was a split second decision.... I got the Titan for less than a comparable F150 at the time. I got 1.9 apr for 5 years and Ford wouldn't do anyting close... that really made the difference. Honestly, that and the Ford salesman was kind of a jerk. It's funny what a difference one salesman can make.

All of the new trucks are nice and you are lucky to own any one of them.... We all benefit from the competition.

 

i was not bashing the f-150 powertrain just stating that the nissans is better....but like u the f 150 is good enough for me even tho its not the best.

 

I had an 05' SE Titan before my F150. I think the Titan is one fast truck but thats about it. The F150 rides better and has better vision out of the cab than the Titan. The Titan was also a little loud inside the cab for me.

 

The thing is, it Already blows most cars away, especially on the highway. I get messed with all the time by Civics and other ricers and Destroy them in my truck.

I have a 4WD truck with Gnarly tires so I guess I'm not in the SRT or Lightning class. I can understand why those guys may be searching for horsepower, but that's not really the Majority of the people buying trucks these days and what the F150/Titan debate is all about. I've got a motorcycle for goin fast.

 

When I think of my truck's speed in relation to the other cars on the road I like to label it the $17,000 rule.... Basically, I know I can take pretty much any car that costs less than that.... entry level accords, camrys, etc. It doesn't matter who's driving.... I'm going to beat you to the merge point....

Once you pass that it gets a little gray.... there are a lot of really fast new cars out there. When you get up past and into the 20K range it becomes much more a function of who's driving, how much attention they're paying and how bad I need to get where I'm going. I don't typically race just for fun..... well sometimes, but usually when I need to push my truck it's to get ahead of some jackass to get where I'm going. As mentioned, if you need to go really fast get a motorcycle....

 

That's a good rule of thumb!

 

That theory usually works, but not always.I've got under $17k in each of my GNs.One runs high 11's and one runs mid 11's in the 1/4mile.

 

i see the one on the right is a gnx? very rare nice cars.

 

I love GNs.

 

Other than a little more horsepower what makes the Nissan a better drive train? The Ford 4R75E / 5.4l is a bullit proof combination that can out haul and out tow the Nissan and based on long term quality data from JD Powers Ford is also more reliable. All this while getting the same or better fuel economy. Considering these are trucks and the Ford drivetrain does everything a truck should do better than the Nissan I don't understand how anyone can say the Nissan has a superior drive train.

 

I don't think it even is the horsepower... it's the 5spd tranny... there's just less of a gap between gears. I only tow occasionally so I can't speak of that... For me, it's more of a daily driving thing. Pulling out to pass quickly going from 40 to 60.... My Titan just always has a gear that puts me in the perfect RPM for what I need to do. It reminds me of driving a motorcycle... My last bike was a 6spd, I think. A good tranny makes the most out of the hp.

For a long time when I was younger I drove Toyota trucks that were for the most part way underpowered... I had one that was an AT that was a nightmare.... Same engine with a 5spd was actually okay... It just takes some effort and understanding as to where the power in the engine is at.

I drove an F150 for 3 years prior to the Titan, I've rode street motorcycles, dirt bikes, atv's, lawnmowers... blah, blah... so I feel that I'm a pretty educated driver..... and I can say for me, the way I drive, the F150 just didn't have the same umph!

BTW... Nassty.... I would definitely make an exception to my 17K rule for either of those... I think I'd pretend to be looking at a map so as to not be embarrased.... Nice rides. I've always liked those.... I remember as a kid, checking out the specs in Car and Driver... Those things are screamers right off the lot.... and once you mod them a bit... look out!

 

Thanks,It's just a clone I put together.Real GNXs are now going for $75k-$100k.
Yup, 25psi of boost with alky injection is fun,but hard on tires.

 

thank u .....

 

Thats a fair response, so for your needs its a better drivetrain. However that doesn't make it a superior drive train.