I am so pi$$ed at Ford- need help
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Crankshaft questions
Apparently Sal's post about breaking a cast crank was erroneous. My new motor is ready to go in the truck, but there is a question as to whether it has a cast crank or a forged crank. My builder seems to think it is a cast crank, and has ordered a forged one which is supposed to arrive Monday. But there's no use replacing the existing one if its a forged piece. Is there anyway to tell without pulling it out?
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Re: I am so pi$$ed at Ford- need help
Originally posted by alphadoggy
Then I read Sal's post about breaking his crank, and discover that the ***** b*******s decided to save money by putting cast cranks in the '01 and up motors.
Then I read Sal's post about breaking his crank, and discover that the ***** b*******s decided to save money by putting cast cranks in the '01 and up motors.
BUT
IS THIS TRUE ???
Because "IF" it is
I have the spec's right in front of me for the 01 + 02
and it CLEARLY SAYS FORGED STEEL CRANK for both yr's
This would absolutely be false avertisement and a major law suite would be in order
IS THIS TRUE ???
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I would get one from Ford.
Lightning specs: "Longitudinally mounted, single overhead cam, 90-degree Triton™ V8, supercharged / intercooled, cast-iron block, aluminum alloy heads, forged steel crankshaft."
"WITH ALL THAT POWER generated by its supercharger and intercooler, the SVT Lightning’s Triton™ V8 has to be built with the most robust components. The basic engine architecture is the foundation for it all. There is the inherent rigidity of a cast-iron block with deep skirts that extend below the centerline of its forged-steel crankshaft. Then there are forged, dished-top SVT pistons that lower the compression ratio to 8.4:1."
Plain as day. Forged cranks. Forged pistons. If I didn't get either, sign me up for the lawsuit. In fact, if someone can verify that the above information is false, I'll FILE the damn lawsuit. I file in federal court almost daily.
Been eatin' those cornflakes again, George?
Lightning specs: "Longitudinally mounted, single overhead cam, 90-degree Triton™ V8, supercharged / intercooled, cast-iron block, aluminum alloy heads, forged steel crankshaft."
"WITH ALL THAT POWER generated by its supercharger and intercooler, the SVT Lightning’s Triton™ V8 has to be built with the most robust components. The basic engine architecture is the foundation for it all. There is the inherent rigidity of a cast-iron block with deep skirts that extend below the centerline of its forged-steel crankshaft. Then there are forged, dished-top SVT pistons that lower the compression ratio to 8.4:1."
Plain as day. Forged cranks. Forged pistons. If I didn't get either, sign me up for the lawsuit. In fact, if someone can verify that the above information is false, I'll FILE the damn lawsuit. I file in federal court almost daily.
Been eatin' those cornflakes again, George?
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Suggestion number one:
get a second opinion
Suggestion number two:
Have a couple cold ones......
Everyone needs to lightning up a little it's Friday for God's sakes!
My source at Ford tells me forged no doubt about it, and reminded my that all Ford employees including engineers are told not to encourage mods with anyone, sounds like your contact is doing his job by simply discouraging mods with lower tolerance level info.
Suggestion number three, go back to suggestion number two
Just my opinion mind you......
get a second opinion
Suggestion number two:
Have a couple cold ones......
Everyone needs to lightning up a little it's Friday for God's sakes!
My source at Ford tells me forged no doubt about it, and reminded my that all Ford employees including engineers are told not to encourage mods with anyone, sounds like your contact is doing his job by simply discouraging mods with lower tolerance level info.
Suggestion number three, go back to suggestion number two
Just my opinion mind you......
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Originally posted by Adrenaline
Do you think that '01 and up owners will have any legal recourse in this situation?
Do you think that '01 and up owners will have any legal recourse in this situation?
There have been numerous product defect cases where the cases were dismissed unless the plaintiff actually exhibited some defect, but I do not think that this would apply to a false advertising action.
Once again, let's reserve judgment until we have real proof. I cannot believe that Ford would (a) use cast parts on a blown engine, and (b) not change its product literature to reflect that fact.
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Re: Re: I am so pi$$ed at Ford- need help
Originally posted by Rob_02Lightning
No Ford bashing intended
BUT
IS THIS TRUE ???
Because "IF" it is
I have the spec's right in front of me for the 01 + 02
and it CLEARLY SAYS FORGED STEEL CRANK for both yr's
This would absolutely be false avertisement and a major law suit would be in order
IS THIS TRUE ???
No Ford bashing intended
BUT
IS THIS TRUE ???
Because "IF" it is
I have the spec's right in front of me for the 01 + 02
and it CLEARLY SAYS FORGED STEEL CRANK for both yr's
This would absolutely be false avertisement and a major law suit would be in order
IS THIS TRUE ???
So Steve, would you be willing to sell me one of your steel cranks?
In the rosy glow of dawn, time constraints being what they are, my inclination today is just to button the sucker up, put it in the truck, and if it breaks it breaks. What do you guys think I should do?
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Originally posted by easterisland
Doesn't that brochure have a disclaimer which states something like, the information may not be 100% accurate...In the same brochure don't they say that locking lug nuts are standard, however no one ever got them.
Doesn't that brochure have a disclaimer which states something like, the information may not be 100% accurate...In the same brochure don't they say that locking lug nuts are standard, however no one ever got them.