I am so pi$$ed at Ford- need help
#61
07-19-2003, 01:01 AM
Re: Re: crankshafts
Originally posted by alphadoggy
Bull puckey! It seems to me that you are the one who is jumping to conclusions. The money for this project is coming out of my pocket, not Ford's. $3000+ to Sal for rods, pistons, balancer, pumps, rails, etc. $6000+ to JDM for heads, cams, exhaust, etc. $3000 to JL for blower. Mucho bucks to other vendors for the rest of the parts. Not one nickel subsidized by Ford. But damnit, it says there in black and white that my truck is supposed to have a forged crank. And it doesn't. Ford engineering has admitted to me that the cast crank in my '01 motor is at risk if I run over 15 lbs. of boost. This is unacceptable. It is misrepresentation at best, fraud at worst. The problem is taken care of. I have a forged crank on the way. But I will never take any of Ford's representations at face value again.
Bull puckey! It seems to me that you are the one who is jumping to conclusions. The money for this project is coming out of my pocket, not Ford's. $3000+ to Sal for rods, pistons, balancer, pumps, rails, etc. $6000+ to JDM for heads, cams, exhaust, etc. $3000 to JL for blower. Mucho bucks to other vendors for the rest of the parts. Not one nickel subsidized by Ford. But damnit, it says there in black and white that my truck is supposed to have a forged crank. And it doesn't. Ford engineering has admitted to me that the cast crank in my '01 motor is at risk if I run over 15 lbs. of boost. This is unacceptable. It is misrepresentation at best, fraud at worst. The problem is taken care of. I have a forged crank on the way. But I will never take any of Ford's representations at face value again.
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Originally posted by Jay Lincoln
George, one thing to remember if you, indeed, did get a cast crank.
Cast cranks can be very durable if they are prepped right, and balanced properly.
If you keep the RPM within reason, it will probably live long and prosper. It's RPM that kills them.
I've run cast cranks in many high performance applications, and have yet to break one. On my short stroke motors, 6500 RPM has proven to be a safe level.
With our long stroke motors, I probably wouldn't wind them up that tight.
George, one thing to remember if you, indeed, did get a cast crank.
Cast cranks can be very durable if they are prepped right, and balanced properly.
If you keep the RPM within reason, it will probably live long and prosper. It's RPM that kills them.
I've run cast cranks in many high performance applications, and have yet to break one. On my short stroke motors, 6500 RPM has proven to be a safe level.
With our long stroke motors, I probably wouldn't wind them up that tight.
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Re: Re: Re: crankshafts
Originally posted by MaxTorque02
Settle down there doggy.
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Settle down there doggy.
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You guys sure make it hard for someone to learn anything from this site. People who think they know and dont know jump on the band wagon.
Hey why dont u see if a 4.6 romeo has a forged crank? no it doesnt unless a cobra, all windsors do. But i bet if someone who acts like they know alot says a romeo is stronger then a windsor then evry one will complain about getting a windsor. (o just in case someone missed it a windsor is stronger, but i guess you could talk about the cam girdles in the romeo, o lets complain about that now)
first post - my lightning is the best, next post this crap ford can only handle 1000 lbs of tourque, my tranny is cooked and i only had a 20 lbs pully
I personally am amazed that Sal's took what he gives to it and I'm proud to own a lightning - sure we could use better rods but some of us dont have an endless bank account. Just wait untill the dodge comes out, how much will a L cost then.
So just wondering, I got blurred vision trying to read all the arguing about reflashing the pcm and a chip so what was the verdict?
O and yes my sonic blue paint has some bad area's and my 6 disc changer has an hi pitch squeel and I havent decided wether or not to get my paint fixed and the I've waited over a month and still have not gotten my replacement stereo, but i have a forged crank
, well atleast i hope so
Hey why dont u see if a 4.6 romeo has a forged crank? no it doesnt unless a cobra, all windsors do. But i bet if someone who acts like they know alot says a romeo is stronger then a windsor then evry one will complain about getting a windsor. (o just in case someone missed it a windsor is stronger, but i guess you could talk about the cam girdles in the romeo, o lets complain about that now)
first post - my lightning is the best, next post this crap ford can only handle 1000 lbs of tourque, my tranny is cooked and i only had a 20 lbs pully
I personally am amazed that Sal's took what he gives to it and I'm proud to own a lightning - sure we could use better rods but some of us dont have an endless bank account. Just wait untill the dodge comes out, how much will a L cost then.
So just wondering, I got blurred vision trying to read all the arguing about reflashing the pcm and a chip so what was the verdict?
O and yes my sonic blue paint has some bad area's and my 6 disc changer has an hi pitch squeel and I havent decided wether or not to get my paint fixed and the I've waited over a month and still have not gotten my replacement stereo, but i have a forged crank
, well atleast i hope so
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Originally posted by black f150 offroad
You guys sure make it hard for someone to learn anything from this site. People who think they know and dont know jump on the band wagon.
Hey why dont u see if a 4.6 romeo has a forged crank? no it doesnt unless a cobra, all windsors do. But i bet if someone who acts like they know alot says a romeo is stronger then a windsor then evry one will complain about getting a windsor. (o just in case someone missed it a windsor is stronger, but i guess you could talk about the cam girdles in the romeo, o lets complain about that now)
first post - my lightning is the best, next post this crap ford can only handle 1000 lbs of tourque, my tranny is cooked and i only had a 20 lbs pully
I personally am amazed that Sal's took what he gives to it and I'm proud to own a lightning - sure we could use better rods but some of us dont have an endless bank account. Just wait untill the dodge comes out, how much will a L cost then.
So just wondering, I got blurred vision trying to read all the arguing about reflashing the pcm and a chip so what was the verdict?
O and yes my sonic blue paint has some bad area's and my 6 disc changer has an hi pitch squeel and I havent decided wether or not to get my paint fixed and the I've waited over a month and still have not gotten my replacement stereo, but i have a forged crank , well atleast i hope so
You guys sure make it hard for someone to learn anything from this site. People who think they know and dont know jump on the band wagon.
Hey why dont u see if a 4.6 romeo has a forged crank? no it doesnt unless a cobra, all windsors do. But i bet if someone who acts like they know alot says a romeo is stronger then a windsor then evry one will complain about getting a windsor. (o just in case someone missed it a windsor is stronger, but i guess you could talk about the cam girdles in the romeo, o lets complain about that now)
first post - my lightning is the best, next post this crap ford can only handle 1000 lbs of tourque, my tranny is cooked and i only had a 20 lbs pully
I personally am amazed that Sal's took what he gives to it and I'm proud to own a lightning - sure we could use better rods but some of us dont have an endless bank account. Just wait untill the dodge comes out, how much will a L cost then.
So just wondering, I got blurred vision trying to read all the arguing about reflashing the pcm and a chip so what was the verdict?
O and yes my sonic blue paint has some bad area's and my 6 disc changer has an hi pitch squeel and I havent decided wether or not to get my paint fixed and the I've waited over a month and still have not gotten my replacement stereo, but i have a forged crank
, well atleast i hope so
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