Killed a Tundra
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This conversation reminds me of all of the people who have bought Japanese Harley wannabes like the Kawasaki Vulcan. Several of those people kept trying to justify they were better for reliability, etc. Then they ended up getting Harleys themselves. The Tundra is just a pretender.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mastercraft:
Not a full size, sorry guys, the tundra meets or exceeds almost all the american trucks in any dimension, inside or out, including ground clearance.
We are just stating the facts bros, like them or not, Oh yeah before you get too ****y about the Super Duty, (which we have also) tell yourself this, "diode failure" its something you will be familiar with in the future. And I will tip you off, it has to do with your 4r100 tranny. Why dont you ask your dealer how many of them they are replacing....be careful what you ask for. </font>
Not a full size, sorry guys, the tundra meets or exceeds almost all the american trucks in any dimension, inside or out, including ground clearance.
We are just stating the facts bros, like them or not, Oh yeah before you get too ****y about the Super Duty, (which we have also) tell yourself this, "diode failure" its something you will be familiar with in the future. And I will tip you off, it has to do with your 4r100 tranny. Why dont you ask your dealer how many of them they are replacing....be careful what you ask for. </font>
You can't address the point about hanging a plow off of that pint sized TOYota either. Heck, there are ZERO foreign trucks here with plows on them. They just can't hack being used as a truck, they're just grocery getters.
I'm sure that you've got a Super Duty, and one of every other make of truck, too. LOL! The diode "problem" in the 4R100? Old news pal. Those were caught with the intro of the 2001 models were fully released to the public. One more point, not all SDs were affected either.
BTW, my neighbor down the street has a 4Runner. It's the one with the big puddle of oil running out from under it. Sure is a reliable thing.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Blower fan? Man we would love to have a simple problem like that with our american trucks? 2 blower fans? Wow sounds like real lemon. I love how you guys take a little problem and way over blow it to make it sound like its compatable with something like an internal design defect.</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Not a full size, sorry guys, the tundra meets or exceeds almost all the american trucks in any dimension, inside or out</font>
F-150 (f/r in inches)
Head room - 40.8/37.8
Shoulder room - 63.8/63.8
Hip room - 61.0/63.2
Leg room - 40.9/32.2
Tundra (f/r in inches)
Head room - 40.3/38.3
Shoulder room - 62.4/63.2
Hip room - 59.3/56.6
Leg room - 41.5/28.6
And don't forget the adjustable gas and brake pedals on the F-150 allowing for even more fine adjustment for the vertically challenged.
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You just don't get it do ya gah !!!
If you were only 5'2" weighed 105 pounds (or would that be 50 Keeeelooossss) and had slanted eyes you WOULD think that those puny neesans and toyodas are full size trucks now wouldn't ya.
If you pulls your eyes back to make a big slant in them everything looks bigger or at least longer !!!
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What a stupid dumbass! Putting the public in danger because he has a little ****. And to make matters worse, trying to impress someone with a Ford! hahahahahahahahah!!!
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 7700sc:
Ever since seeing the Tundra commercial on TV, (the one where the Tundra pases an F150 towing a boat), I've been looking for a Tundra.
Today with my wife driving, we found one.
He was behind us, and I had my wife pull over and let him pull along side. We nudged it and on the second nudge he hit it. He got his rear bumper to our front bumper befor my wife nailed it.
Within 100 yards we had him by 3 truck lengths.
We looked over and it was a bunch of teenagers, and the truck still had the window sticker on it.
We came to the next light and there were cars in front of us, so we couldn't do a 'hole shot', but along side of us was another F150 with a bunch of teenagers in it, and they were laughing there *** off at 'the kill' we just did.
So much for the misleading Tundra commercials!!!!
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Ever since seeing the Tundra commercial on TV, (the one where the Tundra pases an F150 towing a boat), I've been looking for a Tundra.
Today with my wife driving, we found one.
He was behind us, and I had my wife pull over and let him pull along side. We nudged it and on the second nudge he hit it. He got his rear bumper to our front bumper befor my wife nailed it.
Within 100 yards we had him by 3 truck lengths.
We looked over and it was a bunch of teenagers, and the truck still had the window sticker on it.
We came to the next light and there were cars in front of us, so we couldn't do a 'hole shot', but along side of us was another F150 with a bunch of teenagers in it, and they were laughing there *** off at 'the kill' we just did.
So much for the misleading Tundra commercials!!!!
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At least we but american freak boy, get your own toy web sight. any truck with toy in its name is not for me. anytime toy
We have both, and both have certain things they do better than the other, but if you just discount the Toyota because its foreign or whatever, you dont appreciate engineering. Same way someone who owns a Firehwawk Firebird kinda laughs at a BMW 330i. Sure the Tundra is not perfect, hell its their first full size truck, Ford only had a 50 year head start. But for a completely new model, Sequoia included, they are pretty damn good. If you dont think the Sequoia has 10x better build quality than a Expo or Tahoe, keep one for about 3 years. I'd lay money this one wont rattle like the Expo or drop trannys like the Tahoe.
See here is the rub, this board is full of people with the same problems over and over, piston slap, head oil leaks, trannys, so its not uncommon. If you dont believe that, spend some time at your local dealers service department. We also own Volvos, does that count? Since Ford has owned Volvo since 1998? (BTW their quality has dropped substancially since Ford took over, and your next Taurus will be the current C60) So your 2003-2004 Taurus will be the old Volvo 850 (introduced in 1992), which makes that chassis only 13 years old when the american get it.
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We have both, and both have certain things they do better than the other, but if you just discount the Toyota because its foreign or whatever, you dont appreciate engineering. Same way someone who owns a Firehwawk Firebird kinda laughs at a BMW 330i. Sure the Tundra is not perfect, hell its their first full size truck, Ford only had a 50 year head start. But for a completely new model, Sequoia included, they are pretty damn good. If you dont think the Sequoia has 10x better build quality than a Expo or Tahoe, keep one for about 3 years. I'd lay money this one wont rattle like the Expo or drop trannys like the Tahoe.
See here is the rub, this board is full of people with the same problems over and over, piston slap, head oil leaks, trannys, so its not uncommon. If you dont believe that, spend some time at your local dealers service department. We also own Volvos, does that count? Since Ford has owned Volvo since 1998? (BTW their quality has dropped substancially since Ford took over, and your next Taurus will be the current C60) So your 2003-2004 Taurus will be the old Volvo 850 (introduced in 1992), which makes that chassis only 13 years old when the american get it.
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Tranny probs in a tahoe...funny. I've never seen a truck ran harder than my dads 96 Tahoe. He pulls his boat like an F-1 driver and accelerates like its a drag race at every light. It has 110,000 miles and still strong. I think is cool that 7700sc out ran the tundra. He didn't say he was weaving in and out of traffic.
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Funny how one of you listed like 8 Japaneese motorcycles after putting down Toyota, spot the irony there guys.
Slant Eyes? Gee, that is original, did you mom type that for you?
Yep, we run Super Dutys, F150s, Broncos, and some GM products as well, we dont own one thing bro. So yeah we can speak intelligently for all of them after 150 years in agriculture. Think they Japs make crap? Try a Toyota forklift or a Kobota Trac hoe! You guys kill me with this brand loyalty. Its that kinda thinking that keep people buying Firestone tires and thinking "they are just as good" Or using Fram oil filters and thinking "yeah they are just as good also" That is too funny!
So yeah they do hold up on the farm.
Also over 50,000 Super Duties in 2001 made it on the steet before the diode problems shut down the line bro, so yeah they did make it on the street and the 4r100 has more problems than that, but as a loyal Ford guy I am sure you dont mind all the teething problems the E4OD and 4r70 had, cause the 4r100 one is going the same way! Makes you wonder why all the Ford transmission guys are upset at Ford's plan to stop producing automatic transmissions all togeteher. (Think that is a threat? do the research)
Its coming if Nassar has his way.
Oh yeah, I probably would not put a snowplow on any 1/2 ton truck, we dont have much use for snowplows in Birmingham, Alabama, so the point is mute.
Slant Eyes? Gee, that is original, did you mom type that for you?
Yep, we run Super Dutys, F150s, Broncos, and some GM products as well, we dont own one thing bro. So yeah we can speak intelligently for all of them after 150 years in agriculture. Think they Japs make crap? Try a Toyota forklift or a Kobota Trac hoe! You guys kill me with this brand loyalty. Its that kinda thinking that keep people buying Firestone tires and thinking "they are just as good" Or using Fram oil filters and thinking "yeah they are just as good also" That is too funny!
So yeah they do hold up on the farm.
Also over 50,000 Super Duties in 2001 made it on the steet before the diode problems shut down the line bro, so yeah they did make it on the street and the 4r100 has more problems than that, but as a loyal Ford guy I am sure you dont mind all the teething problems the E4OD and 4r70 had, cause the 4r100 one is going the same way! Makes you wonder why all the Ford transmission guys are upset at Ford's plan to stop producing automatic transmissions all togeteher. (Think that is a threat? do the research)
Its coming if Nassar has his way.
Oh yeah, I probably would not put a snowplow on any 1/2 ton truck, we dont have much use for snowplows in Birmingham, Alabama, so the point is mute.
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The toyoto tundra is the ugliest truck i have ever seen. Nothing about it impresses not even there high tech 4.7L aluminum engine. The tundra defintely gets a two thumbs down
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Markmizzou:
Racing on public highways -- thats a real class act!!!! I am real impressesd you "won" . You are impressive-- You and your other could have killed someone else -- HOW IMPRESSIVE!! -- Boy I am pleased for you!!!
NOOOOT!! I have a 5.4 F150 -- I KNOW I could BLOW AWAY (as in BEAT) many cars and trucks on the road-- do I need to prove it at the risk of the other law-abiding citizens on the road ---NOOOO-- Grow up ******* !!
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Racing on public highways -- thats a real class act!!!! I am real impressesd you "won" . You are impressive-- You and your other could have killed someone else -- HOW IMPRESSIVE!! -- Boy I am pleased for you!!!
NOOOOT!! I have a 5.4 F150 -- I KNOW I could BLOW AWAY (as in BEAT) many cars and trucks on the road-- do I need to prove it at the risk of the other law-abiding citizens on the road ---NOOOO-- Grow up ******* !!
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150 Years! in Agriculture, wow you must be pretty old mastercraft! No wonder your such a expert on equipment. Maybe the reason you see alot of japanese and korean construction equipment is because there cheap.
Think about it...
I would imagine your next milking machine will be a neesan too.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Beardoge:
150 Years! in Agriculture, wow you must be pretty old mastercraft! No wonder your such a expert on equipment. Maybe the reason you see alot of japanese and korean construction equipment is because there cheap.
Think about it...
I would imagine your next milking machine will be a neesan too.</font>
150 Years! in Agriculture, wow you must be pretty old mastercraft! No wonder your such a expert on equipment. Maybe the reason you see alot of japanese and korean construction equipment is because there cheap.
Think about it...
I would imagine your next milking machine will be a neesan too.</font>
Some things are just better engineered and built in Japan. If price didn't make any difference, which would you buy? A Honda Generator or a Homelite with a Briggs or Tecumseh engine?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mastercraft:
Yep, we run Super Dutys, F150s, Broncos, and some GM products as well, we dont own one thing bro. So yeah we can speak intelligently for all of them after 150 years in agriculture. Think they Japs make crap? Try a Toyota forklift or a Kobota Trac hoe! You guys kill me with this brand loyalty.
So yeah they do hold up on the farm.
Also over 50,000 Super Duties in 2001 made it on the steet before the diode problems shut down the line bro, so yeah they did make it on the street and the 4r100 has more problems than that, but as a loyal Ford guy I am sure you dont mind all the teething problems the E4OD and 4r70 had, cause the 4r100 one is going the same way! Makes you wonder why all the Ford transmission guys are upset at Ford's plan to stop producing automatic transmissions all togeteher. (Think that is a threat? do the research)
Its coming if Nassar has his way.
Oh yeah, I probably would not put a snowplow on any 1/2 ton truck, we dont have much use for snowplows in Birmingham, Alabama, so the point is mute.
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Yep, we run Super Dutys, F150s, Broncos, and some GM products as well, we dont own one thing bro. So yeah we can speak intelligently for all of them after 150 years in agriculture. Think they Japs make crap? Try a Toyota forklift or a Kobota Trac hoe! You guys kill me with this brand loyalty.
So yeah they do hold up on the farm.
Also over 50,000 Super Duties in 2001 made it on the steet before the diode problems shut down the line bro, so yeah they did make it on the street and the 4r100 has more problems than that, but as a loyal Ford guy I am sure you dont mind all the teething problems the E4OD and 4r70 had, cause the 4r100 one is going the same way! Makes you wonder why all the Ford transmission guys are upset at Ford's plan to stop producing automatic transmissions all togeteher. (Think that is a threat? do the research)
Its coming if Nassar has his way.
Oh yeah, I probably would not put a snowplow on any 1/2 ton truck, we dont have much use for snowplows in Birmingham, Alabama, so the point is mute.
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I guess that YOU can't figure out what a good truck consists of. LOL! Are you buying on price or can't you figure things out for yourself? The diode "problem" with the Super Duty trucks was caught early, just like I had stated. 50,000 SD trucks isn't a whole bunch, especially since most were corrected BEFORE they were put into service. Get it straight!
As far as snowplows, we USE our trucks here for more than hauling groceries and riding around in fields. Since the TOYota can't cut it, the point is a FACT that cannot be disputed. So ride around your fields as you've done for 150 years,
and keep spreading the manure. You've become quite adept at it and it seems to be piling up. PS My neighbors 1999 TOYota 4Runner needs an engine. Care to give him some tips on the "quality construction" of his unit?
One last thing, Mr. American farmer that buys and supports Japanese industry. I hope that IF you are a farmer, that everyone buys whatever you produce from foreign sources, so that you have to sell all of your farm goods outside of the USA. You can always give them the pitch about quality and see if it works on them.
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