what type/brand of electric fans are people using?
#2
Flex-a-Lite Black Magic on my '99 4.2L V6. Has improved mileage at least 0.5 mpg but haven't really noticed any power increase; probably less than 10 hp on top.
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1999 XLT S/C, 4.2 V-6, auto, 3.55 rear, dark torreador red/harvest gold, Ford bed liner
Clarion ARX8570z Head Unit, Sony 10 disc CD, Infinity 610cs components & JBL GTO7520 speakers; USAcousitcs 4065 amp and Polk 8" subwoofer
Edelbrock IAS, Energy Suspension anti-sway bar bushings, Steeda Rear Anti-sway bar, 2" rear drop.
Superchip, Airaid FIPK, Flex-a-Lite Black Magic electric fan
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1999 XLT S/C, 4.2 V-6, auto, 3.55 rear, dark torreador red/harvest gold, Ford bed liner
Clarion ARX8570z Head Unit, Sony 10 disc CD, Infinity 610cs components & JBL GTO7520 speakers; USAcousitcs 4065 amp and Polk 8" subwoofer
Edelbrock IAS, Energy Suspension anti-sway bar bushings, Steeda Rear Anti-sway bar, 2" rear drop.
Superchip, Airaid FIPK, Flex-a-Lite Black Magic electric fan
#3
Flexalite 250, rated at 5200 cfm @ 30 Amps. No discernable change in operating temperature--that seems to be a function of the thermostat. (No matter how low I set the thermostatically-controlled fan switch, Op temp seems to be the same as OEM. Haven't towed with it yet, and don't anticipate a load >2000 lb.)
HP gain is quite noticable, (I'd guess at least between 10-15) though not dyno measured. Gas mileage up by 1.5-2.0 mpg.
'97 F-150 4.6L 4WD ORP and TP
HP gain is quite noticable, (I'd guess at least between 10-15) though not dyno measured. Gas mileage up by 1.5-2.0 mpg.
'97 F-150 4.6L 4WD ORP and TP
#4
HI!... MATT90GT : I've got twin DERALE 16 inch electric fans. Can't tell you about any H.P gain or MPG yet. I hav'nt installed them yet.
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NEAL [ the horsepower freak ] NEWMAN
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, ***** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, 3 AUTOMETER guage pods, filled with tranny temp, engine temp, and oil preasure AUTOMETER "PHANTOM" guages,custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP, modified POWERAID spacer, BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit (on stage 5 setting)BYPASS CLUTCH CONTROL VALVE/PREASURE REGULATOR VALVE, ASP POWER PULLEYS, custom tig welded and ported JBA "JET BLACK coated headers, twin DERALE 16 INCH ELECTRIC FANS, PERMA COOL 14"/10" tranny cooler with 10" electric fan. FUTURE MODS : FORD SVT 24LB INJECTORS, BBK 75MM THROTTLE BODY, AADI F1 RAM AIR HOOD, traction bars, and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA supercharger.
ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 345H.P / 425ft/lbs of torque.
OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w stroked to 408c.i 625H.P (natural), 875H.P with 250H.P "BIG SHOT" N.O.S kit, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 15.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, CENTERLINE CON-VO PRO rims, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon RCI fuel cell,etc
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NEAL [ the horsepower freak ] NEWMAN
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, ***** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, 3 AUTOMETER guage pods, filled with tranny temp, engine temp, and oil preasure AUTOMETER "PHANTOM" guages,custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP, modified POWERAID spacer, BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit (on stage 5 setting)BYPASS CLUTCH CONTROL VALVE/PREASURE REGULATOR VALVE, ASP POWER PULLEYS, custom tig welded and ported JBA "JET BLACK coated headers, twin DERALE 16 INCH ELECTRIC FANS, PERMA COOL 14"/10" tranny cooler with 10" electric fan. FUTURE MODS : FORD SVT 24LB INJECTORS, BBK 75MM THROTTLE BODY, AADI F1 RAM AIR HOOD, traction bars, and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA supercharger.
ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 345H.P / 425ft/lbs of torque.
OTHER TOYS : "83" PRO STREET FORD RANGER : 351-w stroked to 408c.i 625H.P (natural), 875H.P with 250H.P "BIG SHOT" N.O.S kit, tubbed (crome moly tubing), 12 point chrome moly roll cage, 4-link with coil overs, MUSTANG II front suspension, c-4 tranny (race prepped), 4000rpm stall converter(8 INCH), 3" chrome moly driveshaft,AUTOMETER guages, 15.50 MICKEY THOMPSON rear tires, 4" M/T front tires, CENTERLINE CON-VO PRO rims, fiberglass hood - bumper - prostock hood scoop, wishbone trac-link, two chrome moly driveshaft loops, 16 gallon RCI fuel cell,etc
#5
#6
black magic 150 from flexalite, haven't really noticed power or mileage improvement. But it gets the job done and gives more room in the engine compartment.
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black 97' x-cab 4x4, 5 speed 4.6, black westin nerf bars, pilot ground searchers, borla SS split rear exhaust, K&N genII, bosch +4 plugs, superchip, flexalite electric fan, v-tech oval side window covers, IAS shocks
premier 720, pioneer 6cd changer, 12 premier sub, premier componets, 2 soso amps
still to come: new spark plug wires, new rims and tires.
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black 97' x-cab 4x4, 5 speed 4.6, black westin nerf bars, pilot ground searchers, borla SS split rear exhaust, K&N genII, bosch +4 plugs, superchip, flexalite electric fan, v-tech oval side window covers, IAS shocks
premier 720, pioneer 6cd changer, 12 premier sub, premier componets, 2 soso amps
still to come: new spark plug wires, new rims and tires.
#7
anyone every thougt of the Mark 7 fans from the Lincolns? it is a popular fan for the mustangs.
http://smithmonte.homepage.com/Auto/MarkVIII_Fan.htm
http://smithmonte.homepage.com/Auto/MarkVIII_Fan.htm
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#8
#10
Yes, what I am asking is a replacement of the stock engine driven fan.
Benefits: increased cooling at idle ( elec fan runs at full speed at idle to WOT, compared to engine fan varies with RPMs), usually increased room under the hood, frees up HP not being engine driven, you can use a manual switch for increased cooling or to turn off when water crossing. Usually with less drag on the engine, you get a little better milage.
Benefits: increased cooling at idle ( elec fan runs at full speed at idle to WOT, compared to engine fan varies with RPMs), usually increased room under the hood, frees up HP not being engine driven, you can use a manual switch for increased cooling or to turn off when water crossing. Usually with less drag on the engine, you get a little better milage.
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#12
Hmmm, after reading the info on the link above and the info at http://www.psm1.com/ I find that the fan is far more efficent at lower speeds. (more cfm per amp)
Also when the A/C is running you only need 25% power on the fans for condenser cooling.
Also a note about 70% of the radiator being covered by the fans.
The $100.00 controller they are trying to sell seems kinda steep but there has to be a cheaper way to have a varible or 2 speed fan control.
Maybe running in series for low and parallel for high?
What do you guys think?
Also when the A/C is running you only need 25% power on the fans for condenser cooling.
Also a note about 70% of the radiator being covered by the fans.
The $100.00 controller they are trying to sell seems kinda steep but there has to be a cheaper way to have a varible or 2 speed fan control.
Maybe running in series for low and parallel for high?
What do you guys think?
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#14
Rand
That is exactly what I was just thinking. The OEM fan doesn't spin all the time when your going down the highway. It obvioulsly isn't needed. I would think that the only positive thing about elec. fans, is that you can control them when you want. I'm sure they are very reliable, but electronics are electric, and if something does happen, how do you get your truck cooled when your sitting there?
That is exactly what I was just thinking. The OEM fan doesn't spin all the time when your going down the highway. It obvioulsly isn't needed. I would think that the only positive thing about elec. fans, is that you can control them when you want. I'm sure they are very reliable, but electronics are electric, and if something does happen, how do you get your truck cooled when your sitting there?
#15
Even with the fan clutch, they will still spin at highway speeds. The clutch does not totally disengage the fan, but it is not running at the same speed as the engine RPMs either unless the clutch is shot.
For if they break down, that is why you research and buy good quality parts. Like the mark7 fan, moves a lot of air and is factory reliable.
[This message has been edited by Matt90GT (edited 08-11-2000).]
For if they break down, that is why you research and buy good quality parts. Like the mark7 fan, moves a lot of air and is factory reliable.
[This message has been edited by Matt90GT (edited 08-11-2000).]