Project BULLETPROOF...dream or reality?
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HI!... NOT! You want to talk about junk mufflers, then talk about FLOWMASTER. Magnaflow mufflers are no where close to junk. Been running the same pair for like 6 years with *ZERO* problems. I'm even thinking of taking one of my old ones and installing it on the Ranger. Still looks like brand new. 
ZERO problems ? Good for you, that really helps this case now doesn't it?
Did you finish building yours, for them? Working for them on the side now are yuh?
Well congradualtions, yea the Flowmaster ate up a little a torque, but at least they can build one that doesn' leak, which is allot more than I can say about Magnablows. Lick their a$$ all you want, but what they did here is wrong. It's a design flaw , pure and simple.
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Am I correct in saying that those stainless magnaflows have a lifetime warranty? I had one on my Olds Quad 442 and it saw 7500 RPM at least 30 times a day and it never leaked. Actually its on my buddy Ranger now.
You must have just got a lemon.
Jackal - Glad to hear you got everything up and running. Did you notice a nice gain with the longtubes? I hope to do the same job but to add PI heads after I get my ZX2. Nice Work!
You must have just got a lemon.
Jackal - Glad to hear you got everything up and running. Did you notice a nice gain with the longtubes? I hope to do the same job but to add PI heads after I get my ZX2. Nice Work!
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I have a Borla on mine. 
I had it on my 97. The weld kept cracking on the inlet pipe to the muffler. They replaced 3 of them. They finally redesigned the mount so the muffler would not flex off road. 
I must say that their customer service is second to none. They even replaced the one that I transfered to my current truck from my 97. I did have to return this one but still, they legally only have to replace mufflers on the original truck. I did have to wait 3 weeks for them to produce one. It is now discontinued. 
Regards
Jean Marc Chartier.
PS I got the Borla because some rag back in late 1997 tested this muffler and it added 12 hp to a 1997 4.6. Best $900.00 US that I ever spent.
I had it on my 97. The weld kept cracking on the inlet pipe to the muffler. They replaced 3 of them. They finally redesigned the mount so the muffler would not flex off road. I must say that their customer service is second to none. They even replaced the one that I transfered to my current truck from my 97. I did have to return this one but still, they legally only have to replace mufflers on the original truck. I did have to wait 3 weeks for them to produce one. It is now discontinued. Regards
Jean Marc Chartier.
PS I got the Borla because some rag back in late 1997 tested this muffler and it added 12 hp to a 1997 4.6. Best $900.00 US that I ever spent.
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I am :o - I'm prolly the only one this has happened to and I've never heard anything bad about these mufflers before .. So , I expect to get pummeled here, until I stop breathing.
I don't understand why they did this and it's looking like I never will..
Oh well, I should stop b^tching (since it won't do much good anyho) and just get me a Borla/Roush - I know I'll be happy there.
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What do you call a muffler out of the box that leaks at both ends in all the wrongs places? Good ? - That makes sense, how do you figure that ?
ZERO problems ? Good for you, that really helps this case now doesn't it?
Did you finish building yours, for them? Working for them on the side now are yuh?
Well congradualtions, yea the Flowmaster ate up a little a torque, but at least they can build one that doesn' leak, which is allot more than I can say about Magnablows. Lick their a$$ all you want, but what they did here is wrong. It's a design flaw , pure and simple.
ZERO problems ? Good for you, that really helps this case now doesn't it?
Did you finish building yours, for them? Working for them on the side now are yuh?
Well congradualtions, yea the Flowmaster ate up a little a torque, but at least they can build one that doesn' leak, which is allot more than I can say about Magnablows. Lick their a$$ all you want, but what they did here is wrong. It's a design flaw , pure and simple.
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I am :o - I'm prolly the only one this has happened to and I've never heard anything bad about these mufflers before .. So , I expect to get pummeled here, until I stop breathing.
I don't understand why they did this and it's looking like I never will..
Oh well, I should stop b^tching (since it won't do much good anyho) and just get me a Borla/Roush - I know I'll be happy there.
I don't understand why they did this and it's looking like I never will..
Oh well, I should stop b^tching (since it won't do much good anyho) and just get me a Borla/Roush - I know I'll be happy there.
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I have a Borla on mine. I had it on my 97. The weld kept cracking on the inlet pipe to the muffler. They replaced 3 of them. They finally redesigned the mount so the muffler would not flex off road. I must say that their customer service is second to none. They even replaced the one that I transfered to my current truck from my 97. I did have to return this one but still, they legally only have to replace mufflers on the original truck. I did have to wait 3 weeks for them to produce one. It is now discontinued.
Regards
Jean Marc Chartier.
PS I got the Borla because some rag back in late 1997 tested this muffler and it added 12 hp to a 1997 4.6. Best $900.00 US that I ever spent.
I had it on my 97. The weld kept cracking on the inlet pipe to the muffler. They replaced 3 of them. They finally redesigned the mount so the muffler would not flex off road. I must say that their customer service is second to none. They even replaced the one that I transfered to my current truck from my 97. I did have to return this one but still, they legally only have to replace mufflers on the original truck. I did have to wait 3 weeks for them to produce one. It is now discontinued. Regards
Jean Marc Chartier.
PS I got the Borla because some rag back in late 1997 tested this muffler and it added 12 hp to a 1997 4.6. Best $900.00 US that I ever spent.
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there are many guys on the mustang forums im on that have had the same problems. with the welds on the ends cracking and i can see why. but im sure it all has to do with where u mount the hangers and how much stress u put on them. something thats built so cheaply with such thin materials u cant expect it to be sturdy.
Maybe I should check those
- Oh well, I'm not driving that truck anyway right now - to damn loud, given her a rest. I plan to redo the whole system as soon as I get a good welder and torches added to the shop.
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HI!... JMC's had a lot of problems with his BORLA. I believe it's cracked like 3 mabey 4 times now. Borla is good about it though and keeps sending him out a brand new set-up everytime. Free...... We compared our mufflers once. They are basically the same. I bet there made in the same factory and the after market companies just pay to have their name put on them.
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What do you call a muffler out of the box that leaks at both ends in all the wrongs places? Good ? - That makes sense, how do you figure that ?
ZERO problems ? Good for you, that really helps this case now doesn't it?
Did you finish building yours, for them? Working for them on the side now are yuh?
Well congradualtions, yea the Flowmaster ate up a little a torque, but at least they can build one that doesn' leak, which is allot more than I can say about Magnablows. Lick their a$$ all you want, but what they did here is wrong. It's a design flaw , pure and simple.
ZERO problems ? Good for you, that really helps this case now doesn't it?
Did you finish building yours, for them? Working for them on the side now are yuh?
Well congradualtions, yea the Flowmaster ate up a little a torque, but at least they can build one that doesn' leak, which is allot more than I can say about Magnablows. Lick their a$$ all you want, but what they did here is wrong. It's a design flaw , pure and simple.
The S/S MAGNAFLOWS I replaced them with.
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I am :o - I'm prolly the only one this has happened to and I've never heard anything bad about these mufflers before .. So , I expect to get pummeled here, until I stop breathing.
I don't understand why they did this and it's looking like I never will..
Oh well, I should stop b^tching (since it won't do much good anyho) and just get me a Borla/Roush - I know I'll be happy there.
I don't understand why they did this and it's looking like I never will..
Oh well, I should stop b^tching (since it won't do much good anyho) and just get me a Borla/Roush - I know I'll be happy there.
if roush made a complete cat back for our trucks
id be on that like flys on *****
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