Fact or Fiction
Originally Posted by MercedesTech
Well just to give some feedback. After reading this thread I realized that the noise I was hearing at start-up may be due to the cheap-o oil filter i was running (Napa). So I did an oil change a little while back and no longer hear anything. I went with the Motorcraft oil filter and have zero noises and its way smotther sounding on a cold start-up. Thanks for all prior input! I will never go back to ANYTHING napa or Fram!
Good deal!! , glad it worked out..
Originally Posted by Tumba
i was reading archive from 1999
it stated 98 model 5.4 4x4 that the oil filter is in the front bumper
thats strange i 've not seen one of those
it stated 98 model 5.4 4x4 that the oil filter is in the front bumper
thats strange i 've not seen one of those
Don't believe everything you read - it's close , but not in it. I would say about a foot or so behind it in the fender-well.
Originally Posted by jbrew
What's this all about
Don't believe everything you read - it's close , but not in it. I would say about a foot or so behind it in the fender-well.
Don't believe everything you read - it's close , but not in it. I would say about a foot or so behind it in the fender-well.
Found a couple about them popping out. but know answers.
ya got anathang fer me!
after all that was posted here and no one argued about it in the thread
Last edited by Tumba; Oct 16, 2007 at 11:10 PM.
I'm probably coming in a little late, but I've used NAPA brand oil, filters, and pretty much everything else from them since I bought my truck and haven't had a problem with them yet.
Originally Posted by Tumba
I'm looking for answers on a 4.2 cam synchronizer.
Found a couple about them popping out. but know answers.
ya got anathang fer me!
Found a couple about them popping out. but know answers.
ya got anathang fer me!

Originally Posted by Tumba
after all that was posted here and no one argued about it in the thread 

Chiming in late...
If you guys look at the people that doint have the noisy cold starts it is the 5.4 2v guys. All of the guys complaining have the 3v motors.
I have a 5.4 in my 01 expy and can use any filter no prob/noises, but in my 05 lariat, if I dont use the motorcraft, "forget about it", noisy as all hell on cold starts. Sounds like Im out of oil. I read a thread like this before and just did the test with the fram extraguard or whatever it is called. Put it this way, this will be the shortes oil change interval I have ever done...
Weird how I never notice it on my expy though.
Hope this helps, I dont have any technical stuff to rely on, but the guys are right, to hell with fram.
Later,
Devildog101
If you guys look at the people that doint have the noisy cold starts it is the 5.4 2v guys. All of the guys complaining have the 3v motors.
I have a 5.4 in my 01 expy and can use any filter no prob/noises, but in my 05 lariat, if I dont use the motorcraft, "forget about it", noisy as all hell on cold starts. Sounds like Im out of oil. I read a thread like this before and just did the test with the fram extraguard or whatever it is called. Put it this way, this will be the shortes oil change interval I have ever done...
Weird how I never notice it on my expy though.
Hope this helps, I dont have any technical stuff to rely on, but the guys are right, to hell with fram.
Later,
Devildog101
Originally Posted by jbrew
No info on the cam synch..
I have a 98 5.4L in the drive - the real thing!! If you want, I'll take a picture of the filter location - it's not in the bumper..
I have a 98 5.4L in the drive - the real thing!! If you want, I'll take a picture of the filter location - it's not in the bumper..

I couldn't believe that filter thing is why i went back and copied the link.
people think i'm ignorant anyway. i couldn't let it get any worse.:o
wouldn't your setup be like the 98 expy i have?
I appreciate you looking into the synchro' prolly not going to be a problem. i prolly just need to quit reading so many old threads. i almost posted on one again! i kinda get lost in them
Now that all the tech stuff has been settled just use the Motorcraft filter as your supposed to 820s and the oil your supposed to use in these motors.
The filter anti drain back is important or you may hear noise until the pressure builds up.
Filters of a vendor, may not all act the same everytime. You may have years of luck without a problem but then one day it appears.
The 5w part of the oil in 5w20 allows the timing chain takeups to work much faster as well as pressureize the rest of the motor much faster anytime and especially in cold temps..
This is very desirable in winter temp.
The idea that heavey oil is good is no longer prudent.
Heavey oil causes more wear (in these motors) than you may think.
These motors are not like old standard designs of years ago where you could get away with heavey oils on some notion they are better for wear.
It takes more motor power to turn the pump, move heavier oil, the oil does not cool as well and there is more drag in the motor.
The filter anti drain back is important or you may hear noise until the pressure builds up.
Filters of a vendor, may not all act the same everytime. You may have years of luck without a problem but then one day it appears.
The 5w part of the oil in 5w20 allows the timing chain takeups to work much faster as well as pressureize the rest of the motor much faster anytime and especially in cold temps..
This is very desirable in winter temp.
The idea that heavey oil is good is no longer prudent.
Heavey oil causes more wear (in these motors) than you may think.
These motors are not like old standard designs of years ago where you could get away with heavey oils on some notion they are better for wear.
It takes more motor power to turn the pump, move heavier oil, the oil does not cool as well and there is more drag in the motor.





