It's consolidation of engine lines. I guess the 6.2 is going to have enough power to be able to replace the V-10 adequately, and with one less engine to build, they will save money.

 

If one has a 05+ DBW V10 how much work is it to get it to talk with the DBW and electrics in an 07 KR? I just acquired a low mile V10 cheap for ****s and giggles....

Also, how much bigger is the SD 5R110 5sp than out 4sp? What would be involved in getting one to work in our truck if it could be shoehorned in? Would it be as simple as using the PCM from a 05+ SD?

ScubaCat

 

yes, you have to use the newer ECM for the V-10 and the 5 speed auto

 

But is it as easy as using a 10 injector harness, swapping the PCM, and puting in the engine/tranny, and everything will work? As long as both are DBW that is...

Will the 5R110 fit in place without mods?

 

that I don't know but since there is a stand alone box for it now, I really want to put one in my green truck and see what it does for mileage and performance

 

Yes Camdenlake I now have a 1997 F150 with a 2005 DBW V10 in it. Stock trans and transfer. It sures runs awfully sweet! Thanks to Mike @ 5startuning for the SCT and Tune and Kevin @ baumann engineering for the trans controller. Here are the old pics. I need to get some newer ones up.
Later, Bryan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1010765...7614226262649/

 

Should start a V10 F150 club . Cool to see. You went to way more work than i did. Was there other work todo to need to pull the cab? Its black too. The best color for a V10 i guess . What trans did you truck have?


Josh

 

Well, it would be great to know since I have the V10 in-bound and a Whipple V10 SC kit coming as well....Got great deals on them, both impulse buys...

If anyone knows what specifically I would have to do, please PM me...I would like to do the swap but I can't have alot of down time with the truck for trial and error.

 

I am looking for a 2 valve 6.8 to swap into my wife's expedition. coupled with around 13# of boost from the procharger it should get out it's own way rather quickly even towing a trailer

 

I have the 4r70w in the truck, it may not last forever but I am a little older and wiser. I am not as hard on it as I would have been when I was younger. I still light them up some I wont be towing much for awhile either. Just one or two ATV's.

 

How did you get around the drive by wire? Were you able to run hook up a throttle cable, that is the only issue that concerns me with the 3Vs.

 

Keep a close eye on the 8.8 rear diff too.

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yeah

 

What I currently have
1999 F150 4x4 with Blown (removed) 5.4 -
These items are whats in my truck
4r100 transmission and transfer case (manual Shift TC)
10.5 rear end but with 5 lug axle
Dana 60 in front 8 lug cut off A-Arms
I have custom leaf springs in front now
custom leaf springs in rear
total lift is around a 10-12" lift No body mount lifts
truck is on 40" MTR's

I have a 2001 Ford Superduty with a 7.3 diesel (getting high pressure oil pump installed this week do to leak) means I can run higher hp injectors
6speed manual transmission
it is only 2wheel drive
extra cab long bed


Okay!!
Now to the questions. (Please People that do not have positive input do not reply like buy a new truck this is for possible feedback on what to do with this f150)

I have a shop
welder
over head cranes
forklifts
plasma cutter
almost any tool i need to do the steel fabrication of anything

Were I am concerned about mostly is Electrical \ computer issues \ gauge cluster in truck \


I posted in this forum cause of the success of the v10 swap
but here is my issues

stock 1999 5.4 engine specs = 1997–2004 Ford F-Series, 2-valve SOHC, 260 hp (194 kW) and 350 lb·ft (475 N·m) ratings for 1999 and later model years
(info off of wiki if this is not correct please correct me)

Stock 5.4 is around = 5.4L SOHC 525 lbs
info found here (http://www.sullivanperformance.com/y...tech/tech1.htm)

Now Stock v10 engine specs 2v = 2000–2005 Ford Excursion, 2-valve SOHC, 310 hp (231 kW) and 425 lb·ft (576 N·m)
(info off of wiki)

Stock v10 engine specs 3v for 05+ =2005–2010 Ford F-Series Super Duty, 3-valve SOHC, 362 hp (270 kW) and 457 lb·ft (620 N·m).
(info off of wiki)

Stock V10 Engine weight= cant find it but read somewhere 600+LBS

All of the above information is stock and fly wheel stats not rear wheel.
not to mention gas mileage is not fantastic with either of these engines above
(lol don't really care about gas mileage tho

Stock 2001 7.3 Diesel engine specs = 275 horsepower and 520 lb.-ft. of torque when joined to a manual transmission in 2001 California

7.3 weight is around = 1,100lbs (not exactly sure on this either)


okay now lets talk horsepower and torque

when i put chips in my 5.4 engine it barely did crap to my horsepower gain nothing to even justify the price of the chip this is with upgraded exhaust and intake and throttle body

now i am assuming the same for the v10 the chips really don't do crap.
if you want to get performance out of a modular gas engine your using turbos or superchargers right??? to get that 100+ horsepower gain
this gain will cost 3,000-10,000 depending on what you get and what you do correct? also please take note i have not purchased any gas engine yet on top of the above price to get the horse power gain that i can get from the below


7.3 diesel 275 hp with 520 lbs of torque
Air intake upgrade 30 hp roughly gain
exhaust upgrade 15-20 hp roughly gain
dp tuner chip 120 - 140 hp gain with stock engine can get more with upgraded injectors but that is going to start adding a good amount of money

just by doing that will total it up to probably
650-750 torque
450+ hp
with very little to no money added to a 7.3 diesel i already have.???

Am i crazy or does this just make sense even with the added 500lbs in the front end (remember i have a dana 60 in front no crappy a arms to deal with)
my custom leafs will handle the added weight and with the dp tuner i can change the horsepower gain on a 6 position flip chip to lower the hp to get great tow, great fuel economy, or just go nuts to smoke someone in my way? i know the 4r100 may or may not bolt up will it even handle the torque and hp increase of the diesel? i know if i put my manual 6 speed in i will have no problems with tranny issues just the fabbing in the clutch in the f150 that i really don't want to do. I would rather just deal with a superduty tranmission that will match up to the application what do you guys think?

I know i am all over the place but stuck on a decision to keep going 5.4 (blown spark plug crap) $3,000+ for engine

v10 (great engine) but only 50hp increase and 75torque increase
engine price probably around the same $3,000+

7.3 diesel ( will last a long time) 200+hp if i wanted to turn up turner that high over the 5.4
300-400+ higher torque over the 5.4 if turned up that high

What do you guys think?

I mean i know everyone is going to say just put the dana 60 under my superduty and get a transfer case and call it a day but i am not looking for the easiest route i love my f150. I have done tons of hours of fab work on it already. it looks better body wise design then the 2001 superduty, already has flared fenders to match my tires. the 2001 sd is all manual windows (work turck) were my f150 has power everything. I am not sure what to do and way stuck. i only really have a couple grand to spend as of right now on the project so money is a huge factor.

I mean i need pin layouts of both trucks computers and what they exactly do
electrical wiring diagrams for both trucks to merge wiring harness if even possible.

i don't know if the 2001 sd computer can run all the f150 stuff since it is manual everything and a manual transmission.

does anyone know if the bolt pattern on the 7.3 to trans is the same as 5.4 to trans?

any ideas suggestions brain storming, parts, anything can help. I have to make a decision on this soon since I was told from work i have to do somethign with my truck that has been sitting for 2+ years..

I have (4) king coil over shocks that was sized for the weight of the f150 i can get (2) of them resized for the weight of the super duty and coil over the front end of my truck for a better ride than the leaf springs. I have all the equipment to make the 3 or 4 link laying around from previous builds.

i need to get this truck up and running any help is appreciated!

FYI

4bt swap (not happening) (too much money in mods to get good hp )
6bt swap (not happening) ( my opinion 7.3 diesel better engine )

my opinion 7.3 diesel better then both above engines and its FORD!!!!!

okay the long winded novel is over!!!

 

Put the 7.3 in the 150 and call it a day. I believe that the 7.3 uses an adapter to bolt it to the 4R100.

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