4R70W 97 and up differences & interchangability

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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 05:17 PM
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Repin diagram is in this thread in post #34.
I repinned the transmission it's running better but the trans won't shift I took it out of a 97 econoline 150 and put it in a 2000 ford f150 I put it on a diagnostic computer and shift solenoid 2 is not responding would it have to do with the other 2 vehicle power wires not put in? Or is there a bypass? Or do I have to put it in a certain spot?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2023 | 09:34 AM
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Any update?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2023 | 09:36 AM
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4r70w

I replaced a 4r70w from a 5.0 2000 explorer into my 97 Mountaineer. Shifting hard between 1&2, overdrive light flashing. Per reading this post I see that the 97 year had differences. Do I need to repin so it would work properly ?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2023 | 10:32 AM
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Yes.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2023 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by fendialexia
Any update?
i had to end up pulling out the internal trans harness out and swapping it to the other to get it to run right
 
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 02:30 AM
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Will a 02 go into a 98?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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Yes, if they are both 2wd or 4wd and same type engine (V6 or V8).
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 12:27 PM
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So will a 1997 go into a 2004 with a repin as well?

Originally Posted by glc
Repin diagram is in this thread in post #34.
I've seen where 2004 would go into 1997 with a repin so does that mean the opposite would work too?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 06:23 PM
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I've seen where 2004 would go into 1997 with a repin so does that mean the opposite would work too?
I do not know. I wouldn't put an old 1997 transmission in a 2004 Heritage, it's considerably weaker. Best swap is 2001-2003.
 
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Old May 23, 2024 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bindernut
The 97 4R70W uses the older pre-97 electronics connector but has the 4.6/5.4L bolt pattern.
In 98 and up to 2000, they switched the electrical connectors a bit but I'm pretty sure the internals should still be the same. After 98, they changed the VSS style, but if you've got a 4x4 that's in the transfer case anyway. After 2000, the electrical setup is a little different internally along with the connector...I'm pretty sure I seen a few posts here where someone did swap an 01-04 tranny into a 98 or 99 but I can't find the post at the moment.

So for a '97 it's pretty much a one-year only oddball. I found that out this past summer on my own truck.
HUGE question can i take a 98 f150 4r70w case and put all the components from my 2000 f150 and change the plug to 2000 and install it on my truck and work? The only differents in the case are the edge holes are a little bit bigger but all dimensions are the same I've measured
 
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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
No, the electronics are different.
You are very correct I put a 98 transmission in a 97 and had a shift sensor trigger on my dash I didn't get to it in time or whatever and it ended up screwing up the transmission shifted very violently from second to third unless you let off the accelerator now I'm in the yard right now putting the original transmission back in
 
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Old Dec 22, 2024 | 06:51 PM
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Can I use a 4r70w out of a 2005 f150 4x4 in a 1997 f150 4x4 with a 4r70w?
I know l have to re pin the harness.
I can get a low mileage one cheap.
I have worked on cars for many years but limited knowledge on automatic transmission internals.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2024 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rivieragsx
Can I use a 4r70w out of a 2005 f150 4x4 in a 1997 f150 4x4 with a 4r70w?
I know l have to re pin the harness.
I can get a low mileage one cheap.
I have worked on cars for many years but limited knowledge on automatic transmission internals.
No. Output shafts are different.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2024 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by glc
No. Output shafts are different.
Would it mater if I use the transfer case from the 2005?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2024 | 01:15 AM
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No. Incompatible without taking the transmission apart to swap the output shaft and tailhousing. Transfer case has nothing to do with it. Also, if the 97 is a V6 and the 05 is a V8 the bellhousing patterns are different. You can't use anything newer than 03.
 
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