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Old 10-03-2011, 04:29 PM
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Is Travel Trailer length an issue??

Now that we have purchased our new Ecoboost Supercrew with the Max Tow Pkg my wife and i want to upgrade to a bigger trailer. All this time all i have been concerned with was weight and never thought twice about the length of a trailer being a problem? I have been reading a few post stating that 1/2 ton trucks should not pull long travel trailers? What is considered long?? I have 2 campers im interested in and both are under my tow rating and also under the GCVWR of 17,100#'s. So should i be worried about the length of the trailer?? These are the two im looking at. Thanks for any input!

1st - Cougar X-Lite 26BHS
dry- 5808lbs
fully loaded-7800lbs
hitch- 575lbs
length- 28' 11"

2nd- Cougar X-lite 29BHS
dry-6300lbs
fully loaded- 8200lbs
hitch-850lbs
length- 32' 6"
 
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:42 PM
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What they mean is that since a longer trailer is most likely heavier, a 1/2 ton shouldnt tow it. so basically just get a trailer that weighs less than what your truck is rated to tow
 
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Old 10-03-2011, 06:27 PM
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Anything much over 28 feet is getting out of 1/2 ton territory unless you have a really long wheelbase. It's more a stability issue than weight, with a long trailer the tail wants to wag the dog. That's why the Super Duty has the electronic sway control integrated with the trailer brakes - the sway control on the F-150 only works with the truck brakes as a supplemental system. You will need a quality weight distribution hitch with sway control.
 
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:07 PM
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Anything much over 28 feet is getting out of 1/2 ton territory unless you have a really long wheelbase. It's more a stability issue than weight, with a long trailer the tail wants to wag the dog. That's why the Super Duty has the electronic sway control integrated with the trailer brakes - the sway control on the F-150 only works with the truck brakes as a supplemental system. You will need a quality weight distribution hitch with sway control.

What formula do you use (and where did you find it) to come up with 28 feet for a 1/2 ton? I have read a number of opinions on what should be towed by 150/1500 series trucks but no published limitations. The vehicle manufacturers have weight limits on almost every piece of their running gear but no specifications for max length.
 
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Old 10-05-2011, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
Anything much over 28 feet is getting out of 1/2 ton territory unless you have a really long wheelbase. It's more a stability issue than weight, with a long trailer the tail wants to wag the dog. That's why the Super Duty has the electronic sway control integrated with the trailer brakes - the sway control on the F-150 only works with the truck brakes as a supplemental system. You will need a quality weight distribution hitch with sway control.
you said "Super Duty has the electronic sway control integrated with the trailer brakes" i belive that all ford trailer brakes are intergrated with the the sway controll hence the integreated part that is if your truck has sway control in it.
am i wrong?
 
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:41 AM
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What formula do you use (and where did you find it) to come up with 28 feet for a 1/2 ton?
I don't. I'm simply giving you MY opinion.

i belive that all ford trailer brakes are intergrated with the the sway controll
Not the way I read it, but I may be wrong. I read it as the F-150 sway control is not integrated into the trailer brakes, just the truck brakes.
 
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:09 AM
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That's the way of man.

We want a truck, so we get it.

Now we want a trailer, so we get it.

Now we want a bigger truck to better tow the trailer, so we get it.

Now we want a bigger trailer since truck tows so nice, so we get it.

I can see it now .... here comes the F-350 Dually Screw 4X4 and then the 43 footer with triple slide outs !

LOL ..... J/K

Longer trailer means more momentum in the two ends when a slight sway is initiated as they tend to sway around a center near the trailer axles. A F150 will pull it, but the weight and bulk of a larger truck will better dampen and thus control the greater momentum.
 

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Old 10-09-2011, 11:49 PM
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Wheelbase length of the TV becomes the issue with longer trailers if you are within the trailer weight and hitch weight limits. A longer wheelbase is more stable with longer trailers. Insist that the TT dealer let you try towing both so you can see if you feel any sway.
 
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:48 AM
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There are many people happily towing 32-35' trailers with 130" wheelbase Suburbans. You have at least 144" wheelbase. I would not have a problem with either of those TT's and your truck.

My TT is 32' feet overall and it tows great behind my 138" wheelbase F-150. Get a quality hitch (Reese Strait Line, Equal-i-zer or one of those $2-3k hitches) and you'll be pleased.
 
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Thanks guys!!
 
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:34 AM
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Since you have the max tow and 6.5' bed, why not look at light weight 5th wheels? I tow a 7700# dry weight Open Range RF287RL 5th wheel with my 2009 F150 max tow, 6.5' bed. Just got back from a 2400 mile trip around Texas, including the Davis Mountains, and had no trouble towing whatsoever. Also with a 5th wheel, you don't have to worry about sway at all!
 

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Old 10-13-2011, 12:35 PM
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Since you have the max tow and 6.5' bed, why not look at light weight 5th wheels? I tow a 7700# dry weight Open Range RF287RL 5th wheel with my 2009 F150 max tow, 6.5' bed. Just got back from a 2400 mile trip around Texas, including the Davis Mountains, and had no trouble towing whatsoever. Also with a 5th wheel, you don't have to warry about sway at all!
I Have checked out a couple of light weight 5th wheels but i need bunks for the kids and there isn't that many bunk houses in fifth wheels that are light weight. Just seems like i would end up being over my payload without even trying to hard. That is a very nice looking trailer you have!!
 
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:44 PM
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You are right about the bunkhouse 5vers. Since it is just me and my wife, we do fine with this one. Just thought you would be happy with the way a 5ver tows. I had 3 TTs before this 5ver, and there is a world of difference. I would never go back to a TT.
 
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:48 PM
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http://www.openrangerv.com/light/floorplans.php

CHeck out the open range Light LF305BH. Has dry weight of 7940, with pin weight of 1400
 
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Curt, even with the max towing package, that's only about 1800 pounds of payload for an XLT Supercrew 6.5' bed truck. Family of 4 plus 250 pound hitch plus 1400 dry is over the GVWR. And people put a lot of stuff in their basement storage which adds to pin weight. 5th wheel RVs are generally not practical for even the most capable half tons.

I tow a 32' TT, about 6500-7000 pounds loaded for a trip with full fresh water. The only time I had a problem with sway is when my WD hitch was not adjusted correctly. The dealer I purchased the TT from set it up great, then I made some changes to my truck, which cause the WD system to require adjustment again. I have passed opposing semis (at above the ST tire speed rating) without sway issues. I'd let me wife drive and take a nap if the kids let me. No one needs a 5er for stability.
 

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