Thanks for your opinion Tim.

Next time I will consult with you before writing my opinion, to make certain you approve.

.......................O.K…. I’m over my ego – It was not my intention to offend any fellow enthusiasts. My general statement of “waste of enthusiast’s opinions” was not written as I intended the message. Personally I am not a candidate of passing moral judgment on anyone on this board nor do I think any of us have earned the right to pass that type of judgment. As I read through this post I found a number of attacks directed to “OD1010” and felt they were uncalled for. I like anyone have the right to share his/her opinion, that’s why I joined, but I do believe that we can cross the line of decency. Thus the value of the post is questionable!



D-Day

 

And I've been questioned as to why I don't post much anymore

 

I know, I know!
With 12,536 posts, the letters are all rubbed off your keyboard.

 

Gee, let's see... HE SAID HE WANTS TO FIX THE TRUCK! (one way or another I'm guessing).

In which case, maybe he can go from 20/20 hindsight to 20/20 FORESIGHT!

 

thank you for repeating what i said except with more words

 

I thought there was a petition involved.

 

O.k. I tried to stay out of this, but per US Code - Title 15, Chapter 50, Sections 2301-2312 Legally, a vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty on a vehicle due to an aftermarket part unless they can prove that the aftermarket part caused or contributed to the failure in the vehicle (per the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)) . If your vehicle manufacturer fails to honor emission or warranty claims, contact EPA at (202) 260-2080 or www.epa.gov. If federal warranty protection is denied, contact the FTC at (202) 326-3128 or www.ftc.gov.

Hope this helps.

 

HA! good luck on that one

 

Let's see, where are those nice long threads about blowing spark plugs and how it's virtually unanimous how Ford screwed us.

Granted this kid was a doofus and should pony up his own bucks for repairs, but I think Ford did still put it to us on these motors.

Seems like there is plenty of screwing on both sides of the fence.

 

how is this supposed to help the dude with the blown engine? Putting a turbocharger on it and going 120 mph both undoubtedly contributed to the failure, if not causing it entirely.

I don't think anyone here can dispute his warranty is toast-- now it's just whether he tries to pull one over on Ford or not.

 

LOL.....yep, putting a turbocharger on em will get ya every time. I plan to strap one on my L this afternoon.


Rocks

 

LMAO

So YOUR the one that started it

And very funny you old goat herder
But, Iam on my 3rd keyboard

 

I just got done reading all this. Wow! The bottom line is that FORD did not build in an adequate saftey margin into either the engine, transmision or brakes on these trucks. I have a 100% stock truck that has had spark plug ejection (4 thread head) which then led to engine failure and a short time later transmision failure. I have also had warped rotors and have experienced major brake fade. I also had front end clunk 3 times,4 leaky intercoolers, 3 sets of broken fog lights & replaced cloged exhaust system(helped to ruin engine). All of this was covered by FORD. Many stock trucks have had these issues. These are symtoms of design deficiencies.

My wife has the same 5.4 engine we have, in her Expedition built in 1997. It came with 230 hp. The 2001 and newer L has 380 hp. Why do these two vehilces have the same connecting rods, 4 thread heads & brakes? If FORD had used manley rods, 8 thread heads, ARP type fastners and larger disk brakes about 3/4 of these complaint threads wouldn't exist. I admit this would take some of the fun out all this bs-ing but the offset would be a much better truck. This could have all been done for less than $1,000.00. This would have greatly enhanced our sport truck experience and FORD's reputation.

I hold FORD accountable for placing this and many other individuals in a moral dilema. Rest assured when it comes to screwing people we do not have the full time staff devoted to the task that auto makers have at their disposal. We do not do the cost benefit analysis of fixing 4 thread heads vs discouraging,avoiding and denying the problem. These are all great brand building stratagies that really go a long way towards enhancing company profits.

 

Yes. That's the answer. Ford's gonna be sorry now that we just pulled out the big guns of law.

 

so if your heads blow a plug while under warrenty is it not covered? How about after 30 years? Face it things break if worried buy extended warrenty.

If your computer crashes after a year is it covered? Should have the circuits been soldered better, higher quality solder, little bit more, etc. etc.

Fact is most stock trucks dont break rods or blow plugs - if a very high number broke rods ford would not have made the L in the first place.

I'm sure there is a higher percentage of difference between the tunes/just plain stupidity of owners then there is between the stock rods which is why some can push a stock rod truck far and other can not, thus proving ford did leave some extra margine of strength. (Btw yes i wish they put better rods in them but a lot of people beat on there moded trucks with no problems and some dont)