JL, I asked you to take this to a different thread. This thread is not about you.

If its not about me, Then why was my name brought up then? This guy comes on here trying to start some doubts in peoples minds about my Engines! and i'm not suppose to say anything? Just HELP us out Clint and tell us what the problem was in my tune. and that will be the end of this...JL

 

I thought he said it was the tune, not the engine.

 

Excuse me? I thought people came to this website to share and learn about our truck. I thought we were all united in the common interest in our trucks. Obviously not in your little world.

 

what's it to you? It's not your truck

 

Now it's my little world that's screwed up? I'm not the one that doesn't want to share the resolution. My point was there was no point trying to gang up on this guy if he obviously isn't going to divulge the information. It's his choice, period. In my little world we don't have big guys gang up on one person, that's not what these boards are for. If you don't like my little world then move out. JL if you want to know so bad, email him or give him a call. I have talked to you on the phone before and you seem to be a awesome dude.

 

lol

 

I wasn't going to get involved in this but since it won't die and you, JL, said something conflicting with an earlier statement you made to me on many occasions a few months ago I decided what the heck.

If you'll remember back to Feb-Apr of this year, you told me multiple times that the problem I was having with my new motor couldn't be in my tune because you'd tuned hundreds of nearly identical trucks and they weren't having this hesitation at tip-in issue. It had to be a mechanical issue you said. So I spent way too many hours looking for a mechanical problem. The short list included compression tests, leak down tests, plugs, coil packs, injectors, pumps, MAF, O2 sensors, cam sensor, crank sensor, and the list goes on. You had me convinced I had a mechanical issue and that I should ship the truck to you. After dropping several thousand dollars on a new motor and parts and doing the R&R myself I wasn't in a position to drop another $2,000 for transport costs plus your labor and materials. Although I was tempted, I'm now glad I did not seeing that the problem was NOT mechanical.

Granted, I was asking you for help in diagnosing a problem over the phone. That's not easily done, clearly. And you did graciously spend considerable time trying to help me including a few phone calls, several emails and many tunes. Not all that was for free, though, seeing that I paid for some of the retunes along the way and parts. Don't forget the short block. So see, this isn't a bash post. You did alot - probably more than most would have. Aside from the condescending attitude and the ego (which is probably justified considering your position in the truck world), you're ok in my book. But hey, we all have our negative's, right?

But I still had a poorly running truck. And you said I was an isolated or nearly isolated case. I say nearly because Clint and I stumbled upon each other since we were both posting around asking for help and our issues were the same. So back to the original quote from above: how can this help everyone if the problem that Clint and I were having was unique and isolated? The solution to our problems was in the tuning - there is no doubt to that. But answering our problem clearly only benefits us because we are unique with our tip-in hesitation problem. Do you see that logic?

If detailing what fixed it helps "ALL" as you say then does this occur more frequently than was previously thought? More frequently than 2? Maybe so. I've probably had about 4-5 pm's from people on NLOC where they read my old posts while they were researching their problem. Did they have the identical problem as me? I dunno - I'm not working on their truck - perhaps they have fueling issues or a messed up MAF transfer function or some real mechanical issue. But I directed them toward the tuner that fixed my problem with 1 single tune. And that's what I told you back on 4/22/05 when you read my post about it being fixed and emailed me wanting to know who it was that did it. Did you call him to find out what he did? I've noticed that some tuners that tune for profit are pretty confidential in what they do and how they do it. Of course, it's nothing to open their file and see what they did, is it?

Anyway, I've since gotten the SCT PRP and my base tune from MD did the same thing. I changed some things and was able to get rid of it. I would say maybe it's just my truck. But it would also have to be just Clint's truck. And perhaps just the trucks of the people who've pm'ed me wanting to know how the problem was resolved because their trucks with their new motors are doing it, too.

Peace, Robert

ps. I'm done with this thread. I've said my 2 cents. You can call me if you still have my number or email me. Hey, did you notice I bought something from you this week? See - I'm still a customer.

 

It's all in good fun!

 

Is there any chance of a thread on here w/ out a pissing match of some sort. Ya got a bad engine, that needs to be discussed and sorted out whenever you find the true results.....Everybodies said that..everybody agree'd on that.

Ppl scrutinize JL for wanting to know what the issue is w/ one of his motors, thats pretty stupid. There were negative comments, he got on and defended himself, and wanted to discover the issue. No harm there.

For the people that replied in this thread w/ just a little bit of common sense and thoughfulness, kudo's to you...

Otherwise, why post the bull****, seriously.

The man had an issue w/ an engine, bottom line.....keep the damn thread on subject w/ out pissing it away as every other one on here tends to end up.

 

Did Doug just make a funny?

 

We still haven't learned what is wrong with the engine that supposedly bit the dust. You can't just trash somebody without quoting chapter and verse. If you have a real problem tell us what it is and how you fixed it. Otherwise it sounds like your trying to blame somebody for something you may have caused yourself.

 

Engines don't get pulled and diagnosed overnight. Be patient and the information will be there. Are you one of the few satisfied Tommy customers in the world? Let me guess, you bought his line lock and it works pefectly. I think if he would have stuck to that product, he wouldn't have a bad rep.

 

why don't the moderator do what is necessary here.......either weed out the stuff that don't belong, or make it another post or something.

This post has become a 3 way conversation and like reading a riddle.

Is it Johnny or Tommy who's motor puked???

Who has all the secrets???

Was JLP's secret problem a leaking oil seal that puked??

Stay tuned for the next mumbo jumpo post here on F150 Online.

 

I must be really lucky considering my Outrageous Performance engine has been running strong for 2 years now.

Zach

 

I also would like to know what solved the problem. I didn't know that diagnosing and solving a problem in a tune was such proprietary information. It's not like anybody's asking for cam specs or anything. I always try to help out the local lightning guys with problems, or tweaking their tunes via their predators, etc. I guess if I was secretive, I wouldn't do any of that.

Whether the problem is common or not, what's the big deal? Maybe it's one of those things that you can keep in the back of your mind if/when it happens to you?