Whipple = Lyscholm
KB=Autorotor
The companies are related.

The Whipple is a mass produced and proven generic blower.

The KB is a low volume, Lightning-specific casting.

 

Nope. Whipple rotors are Lysholm, KB rotors are Autorotor. And while both companies (and 3 others) are all owned by the Opcon AP company, the parts produced by each brand are still their own.

 

I knew all were owned by Opcon, so that is why I thought that.

 

In a way it could be case flex....sort of.

I personally think the KB doesn't like being torqued down to manifolds that are not flat. Mine wasn't flat....not even close, but I fixed that.

The KB is a tight blower....I have rotated a piece of notebook paper thru the one I had and it cut it up into little slices....notebook paper is only about .003/.004 thick. You put a blower like that on a surface thats not flat and something is going to go wrong.
Dale

 

I want to get a aftermarket SC, but not untill summer 06. Hopefully all these issues with the whipple will be worked out by then. I want to get one, or maybe Ill pick up a KB off of a proud new whipple owner.

31C

 

Maybe they'll start postin' in 2 weeks

 

Here's what my Works140 sounds like at a HIGH idle... (Had a vaccum leak and it was idling around 1,000rpm) Same compressor (Whipple 2300AX), different adapter plate and 'upper' plenum setup.

It doesnt whistle quite as loud as that anymore at idle. Kind of sounds like a vortech or paxton at idle
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Here's what it sounds like at WOT with a 200shot
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Personally, I like the kazoo sound the coolant makes at the end of the video as it rushes out of the overflow bottle and into the intake (Havent sprayed the truck again after that mis-hap - Im chicken)

-Dale

 

Looks good Spanky , I'm not a real whipple fan because of their customer service. But i do admit it looks pretty clean with the rear entry intake ,really stands out when you open the hood.

 

Damn it, I've been waiting and waiting for an update since I first saw that video last year!

 

As one of the original testers for the Whipple/Works140 blowers, as well as someone who's worked with and tuned most of the few other Works 140 trucks, I can tell you this.... The Whipple has already proven itself better than the KB. And all the proof has been out there, and is just some searches away. The Whipple has been proven to make 2-3 more psi than a KB with the same pulley combo. The Whipple does NOT drop off in power like the KBs do when spun really hard (in the 22-28 psi range). The whipple has a rotor pack built to much higher standards than the KB and I doubt you'll see any Whipples "locking up".

You guys who are holding out for the Whipple kits are in for a real treat. The blowers just rock.

[B]As for the "hold up" on the kits]/B], it's not just the Lightning kit. Whipple is waiting on more blowers from Lysholm in Sweeden, and they aren't shipping ANY blower kits right now for any vehicles.
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Sal: I wonder sometimes about your information,and Expertise in matters such as this.._________________
1, How has the Whipple proven itself better than the KB?

2,When was this test conducted to prove the Whipple makes 2-3# more boost with the same pullies?

3,Again where's the dyno/testing where we see the KB Fallen off when the whipple continues to make more power?

4,Why is AutoRotor making the rotor packs now instead of Lyscholm if the autorotor packs are such poor Quality?

From what ive been told those holding out as you put it for the Whipple are not in for a real treat but a BIG Surprise! Maybe you need to do a more in depth investigation on this Whipple KB thing, and get some up to date Information. You Just might get surprised of what you'll find out..JL

 

If you can manage to take Jim Bell's Barnum & Bailey writing style with a grain of salt.....I believe there is some usable info in this article: http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/fo...RvsLYSHOLM.pdf

As far as the Works Power is concerned....I always wondered why the guy who designed that manifold....didn't get the living chit kicked out of him for being so effing stupid......I've been wanting to say that for a long time....this is like therapy

Dale

 

 

I enjoyed reading the Jim Bell piece (I actually like his Barnum style).

Here is the problem that I see with his comparison -- the KB Lightning blower uses a special custom case, whereas the Whipple (and most of KB's other kits) use a generic, mass-produced case with an adapter for each vehicle. I appreciate Bell's comparisons of bearing design, etc, but I am just less comfortable with the low-volume case design. There have been several reports of KB failures. I can't help but suspect that the case design is playing a part in them.

 

 

Johnny, I know you and I have had our quarrels, so I'll keep this civil.

As Tim stated, it's not the rotor packs that seem to be an issue, it's the one off case. But from a quality standpoint, how many people are on their 2, or 3rd KB? How many cobra guys are blowing oil out of their KB's?

Kenne bell has some real quality issues that they need to address, but instead what we seem to get are excuses and testaments to their great customer service. I personally am not interested in customer service stories, I'd rather not have to worry about downtime and sending a blower back. This is exactly why my truck still has an Eaton. I know speed comes at a price, but for 3,000 dollars I expect a part that doesn't lock up.