Superfords ready to lay it down!!
Johnny did what it took to run a solid 9 with his truck. It's not gutted, it could be made streetable very easily, and it's the fastest Gen2 on the planet. People can make excuses all they want.
I always love to hear the remark "I could make anything run a 9 if I wanted to dump the money and time into it." Yea, we'd all have Ferrari's, Porsches, etc. if we could afford them too. If your goal is to go fast, do as much as your wallet will allow. If it's not, sit on the porch and watch.
BTW, I'm sitting on the porch for now. The Cobra's just a street machine.
I always love to hear the remark "I could make anything run a 9 if I wanted to dump the money and time into it." Yea, we'd all have Ferrari's, Porsches, etc. if we could afford them too. If your goal is to go fast, do as much as your wallet will allow. If it's not, sit on the porch and watch.
BTW, I'm sitting on the porch for now. The Cobra's just a street machine.
Originally posted by blown318
yeah it might have a tubular front end...... But it is DEFINATELY not gutted beyond recognition...... unless we are looking at two different trucks......
Last time I checked it looked like a lightning!!!
yeah it might have a tubular front end...... But it is DEFINATELY not gutted beyond recognition...... unless we are looking at two different trucks......
Last time I checked it looked like a lightning!!!
Secondly, Jim.....
When I was at JL's shop getting my H/D tuned, I took alot of time looking at JL's Lightning and it is for sure a Lightning with a full dash, carpet, headliner, steering wheel, radio, glovebox and all the other interior pieces you can think of, save the racing seats and console.(your daily drivers have those too), but as for the tubular front end, you are dead wrong. The truck is still full framed, but it does have tubular custom upper and lower control arms. It does not have a tubular chassis. If needed, it could be driven on the street, but it would be limited to small trips because of the fuel cell.
Lets get one thing straight here ok? ALL of your mid 10 second daily driven trucks went 10 on slick and skinnies, at race weight. Not streetable at all in their 10 second configuration. So whats the difference? A Lightning is a Lightning and it just so happens that JL has the fastest GenII so far.
You say you dont care about running a number, but rather have fast daily drivers, but do you remember promising Bill a 9 second on the juice Lightning and a 10 second off the juice Lightning two years ago? It took you 18 months to deliver to him a high 10 second truck, even when you promised him and the community a 9 second truck.
Its all a bash fest here and thats one reason why I stay out of most of this. I had to speak my mind, sorry if I upset anyone but hey its just the internet.
Later...
Bruce
Last edited by Black 2000; Jun 15, 2004 at 09:38 PM.
Originally posted by Black 2000
Lets get one thing straight here ok? ALL of your mid 10 second daily driven trucks went 10 on slick and skinnies, at race weight. Not streetable at all in their 10 second configuration. So whats the difference?
Later...
Bruce
Lets get one thing straight here ok? ALL of your mid 10 second daily driven trucks went 10 on slick and skinnies, at race weight. Not streetable at all in their 10 second configuration. So whats the difference?
Later...
Bruce
Well I can't speak for the rest of the 10 second lightnings, only for myself. When I ran my 10 second runs I drove to the track, put some race fuel in and put the rear slicks on. Thats It
I didn't make any other changes to my truck, I even made the 10 second runs on my street program. The front tires I race on were the same tires I drove to Atlanta with. I still had my rear bumper, tailgate, spare tire, front sway bar, and full interior and weighed 4760 lbs on my 10 second runs.
When I was done racing I put the rear F1's on and drove home.
Like someone said each person has there own goals with there truck. While I applaud Johnny for making his truck light and being the first into the 9's his approach is not for me. I don't care about being the fastest truck, I just want to be one of the fastest daily driven trucks
haha
I think it might have been wiser to get the nitrous problems figured out and then gradually step up on the tune, nitrous and boost. It just seemed that you went for it right off the bat instead of slowly working your way to your goal and losing time and money in the longrun. No harm or foul intended bud.
Lets get one thing straight here ok? ALL of your mid 10 second daily driven trucks went 10 on slick and skinnies, at race weight. Not streetable at all in their 10 second configuration. So whats the difference? A Lightning is a Lightning and it just so happens that JL has the fastest GenII so far.
We are talking daily driven......10 second vehicles...........which get into race trim to race. They put slicks on so they can hook to the track. Wouldn't be very safe and if you found out these 10 second truck were on street tires, you might get all nervous or something.
You say you dont care about running a number, but rather have fast daily drivers, but do you remember promising Bill a 9 second on the juice Lightning and a 10 second off the juice Lightning two years ago? It took you 18 months to deliver to him a high 10 second truck, even when you promised him and the community a 9 second truck.
If it was that important to Bill.......he would have set out to prove it.....so he's obviously if not happy, at least content with what he has...........a 10 second pickup truck..........which is more than me or you.
Originally posted by Don's Bolt
Well I can't speak for the rest of the 10 second lightnings, only for myself. When I ran my 10 second runs I drove to the track, put some race fuel in and put the rear slicks on. Thats It
I didn't make any other changes to my truck, I even made the 10 second runs on my street program. The front tires I race on were the same tires I drove to Atlanta with. I still had my rear bumper, tailgate, spare tire, front sway bar, and full interior and weighed 4760 lbs on my 10 second runs.
When I was done racing I put the rear F1's on and drove home.
Like someone said each person has there own goals with there truck. While I applaud Johnny for making his truck light and being the first into the 9's his approach is not for me. I don't care about being the fastest truck, I just want to be one of the fastest daily driven trucks
Well I can't speak for the rest of the 10 second lightnings, only for myself. When I ran my 10 second runs I drove to the track, put some race fuel in and put the rear slicks on. Thats It
I didn't make any other changes to my truck, I even made the 10 second runs on my street program. The front tires I race on were the same tires I drove to Atlanta with. I still had my rear bumper, tailgate, spare tire, front sway bar, and full interior and weighed 4760 lbs on my 10 second runs.
When I was done racing I put the rear F1's on and drove home.
Like someone said each person has there own goals with there truck. While I applaud Johnny for making his truck light and being the first into the 9's his approach is not for me. I don't care about being the fastest truck, I just want to be one of the fastest daily driven trucks
I said Mid 10 second trucks Don. No offense, but with your JDM dyno numbers, you should have run a mid 10 a long time ago. I am sure you can when you put your truck on a diet
Later...
Bruce
Secondly, Jim.....
When I was at JL's shop getting my H/D tuned, I took alot of time looking at JL's Lightning and it is for sure a Lightning with a full dash, carpet, headliner, steering wheel, radio, glovebox and all the other interior pieces you can think of, save the racing seats and console.(your daily drivers have those too), but as for the tubular front end, you are dead wrong. The truck is still full framed, but it does have tubular custom upper and lower control arms. It does not have a tubular chassis. If needed, it could be driven on the street, but it would be limited to small trips because of the fuel cell.
Here's a photo of my so called tubular frame....When we were @ WFC there were a few guys who came up and said they wanted to see my (tubular) front end. when they looked they said just what we thought another lie!.....JL
When I was at JL's shop getting my H/D tuned, I took alot of time looking at JL's Lightning and it is for sure a Lightning with a full dash, carpet, headliner, steering wheel, radio, glovebox and all the other interior pieces you can think of, save the racing seats and console.(your daily drivers have those too), but as for the tubular front end, you are dead wrong. The truck is still full framed, but it does have tubular custom upper and lower control arms. It does not have a tubular chassis. If needed, it could be driven on the street, but it would be limited to small trips because of the fuel cell.
Here's a photo of my so called tubular frame....When we were @ WFC there were a few guys who came up and said they wanted to see my (tubular) front end. when they looked they said just what we thought another lie!.....JL
wow
I said Mid 10 second trucks Don. No offense, but with your JDM dyno numbers, you should have run a mid 10 a long time ago. I am sure you can when you put your truck on a diet
I'm sorry guy but you are an *******.....plain and simple.
By the way..........JDM only uses bogus STD corrected numbers remember.........so with Don's real numbers.........he's allowed high 10's rather than mid 10's.......................still running on his street tune
Originally posted by Bad as L
Quick question?
Why do you guys run street tunes on race gas.......I see that alot, street tunes and race gas
Sorry.....that just kills me
Quick question?
Why do you guys run street tunes on race gas.......I see that alot, street tunes and race gas
Sorry.....that just kills me


