Srt-10
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From: Jasper Alabama
Well i got a call yesterday from the guys at my local Dodge place. They got there silver SRT-10 in. He wants me to come check it out fri when the owners there. Ill take the camera and give a unbiassed opinion. PS they are asking 56,000 for there SRT-10
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From: Phx, AZ
I never usually post in threads like this just because it's usually pointless, but I am just getting tired of the "You could throw a blower on a stock XXX, and it would run the same numbers as a XXX"...
Auugh, that arguement is so unfounded it isn't even funny!!
Let's see, yeah, go ahead and throw 10lbs of boost onto a motor with cast pistons, no fuel management, subpar injectors, and a stock 90lph fuel pump.
Also, with no drivetrain upgrades, and a transmission that is meant to handle 2/3 the torque of what you are throwing at it...
Plus, unless you don't care about it, the warranty on a new vehicle is now out the window, and the cost of repairs you are now going to incur will offset any differences in cost for the vehicle you are comparing it to.
I had thought about building up a standard F-150 4x4 so I could use it to tow my Samurai down gravel roads and such to wheel it on trails. Sort of a 4x4 Lightning... It would cost as much or more than a stock Lightning would to do it... I have had 2 lightnings, and they towed my rig on a trailer with no issues what so ever...
The only issue was taking my Lightning down gravel roads, or in the mud, ect...
So I sold it to get a 4x4 to tow with...
The point being, in order to match the capabilities, I would need a big block (V-10), or a diesel... because they were meant to do this job.
For me to just throw a blower on to a standard F-150 5.4L, and expect it to be reliable, and last more than 20K without breaking something, would be foolish on my part...
To the poster of this thread, I personally think Dodge putting a Viper drivetrain into a RAM is waay cool, Dodge is really doing some cool things with thier new vehicles, and the fact that the Lightning now has some competition is even better. BUT...!!
Like was mentioned, coming onto a Lightning board and posting about ho much better YOU think your truck is and not posting any data at all backing it up is just asking for a flaming like no other!!
I would, if I were you, in the future, post in a more general way like "Hey, check out the times I ran in my SRT-10", and then post pics to them. Make the post objective, and polite, and not Offensive, and biased, and then have to fight, and flame, and name call the rest of the time, which makes your credability on this board absolutely nil...
Thanks, and post some pics, and timeslips, and we will welcome you with open arms...
Auugh, that arguement is so unfounded it isn't even funny!!
Let's see, yeah, go ahead and throw 10lbs of boost onto a motor with cast pistons, no fuel management, subpar injectors, and a stock 90lph fuel pump.
Also, with no drivetrain upgrades, and a transmission that is meant to handle 2/3 the torque of what you are throwing at it...
Plus, unless you don't care about it, the warranty on a new vehicle is now out the window, and the cost of repairs you are now going to incur will offset any differences in cost for the vehicle you are comparing it to.
I had thought about building up a standard F-150 4x4 so I could use it to tow my Samurai down gravel roads and such to wheel it on trails. Sort of a 4x4 Lightning... It would cost as much or more than a stock Lightning would to do it... I have had 2 lightnings, and they towed my rig on a trailer with no issues what so ever...
The only issue was taking my Lightning down gravel roads, or in the mud, ect...
So I sold it to get a 4x4 to tow with...
The point being, in order to match the capabilities, I would need a big block (V-10), or a diesel... because they were meant to do this job.
For me to just throw a blower on to a standard F-150 5.4L, and expect it to be reliable, and last more than 20K without breaking something, would be foolish on my part...
To the poster of this thread, I personally think Dodge putting a Viper drivetrain into a RAM is waay cool, Dodge is really doing some cool things with thier new vehicles, and the fact that the Lightning now has some competition is even better. BUT...!!
Like was mentioned, coming onto a Lightning board and posting about ho much better YOU think your truck is and not posting any data at all backing it up is just asking for a flaming like no other!!
I would, if I were you, in the future, post in a more general way like "Hey, check out the times I ran in my SRT-10", and then post pics to them. Make the post objective, and polite, and not Offensive, and biased, and then have to fight, and flame, and name call the rest of the time, which makes your credability on this board absolutely nil...
Thanks, and post some pics, and timeslips, and we will welcome you with open arms...
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From: San Antonio, Tx
Originally posted by V!0
I think a supercharged reg. cab hemi with low boost will keep up with a stock L in the 1/4 mile. Then after you spend 5k on a supercharger you have another 12,000 dollars you can spend so you can match the 18k rams price to the 35k L's. See, i have realistic arguements instead of blurting out things like suck it.
some of you are ignorant and need to realize that there is no replacement for displacement......500c.i. has more potential than 330cubic inches or whatever lightnings have. I just guessed on the 330c.i. and im not 20 im 27. And for those of you who dont believe me that is fine but if motor trend ran a 13.1 with it (as you see in the link) what makes it so hard to believe I got a 12.9
I think a supercharged reg. cab hemi with low boost will keep up with a stock L in the 1/4 mile. Then after you spend 5k on a supercharger you have another 12,000 dollars you can spend so you can match the 18k rams price to the 35k L's. See, i have realistic arguements instead of blurting out things like suck it.
some of you are ignorant and need to realize that there is no replacement for displacement......500c.i. has more potential than 330cubic inches or whatever lightnings have. I just guessed on the 330c.i. and im not 20 im 27. And for those of you who dont believe me that is fine but if motor trend ran a 13.1 with it (as you see in the link) what makes it so hard to believe I got a 12.9
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From: Paradise
V10 - I must say you have handled the flood of flames like a pro. And regardless of the maker I hope you have as much fun with your SRT-10 as I am having with my '03 L.
I have spent aprox. 9 grand on my L. Result 496/562 to the rear on a stock engine, bolt ons only and I might add no juice.
I pulled off a conservative 12.294 at 111 mph during one of my first four 1/4 mile passes a couple weekends ago. Discovered that there is a hellofalot more to racing than meets the eye. Traction was an issue, my chip file is very safe and man do I need a stall converter. Goal = 11 second truck with stock block no juice. With some fine tuning with my file and a stall I am very confident I will get there.
Your ideas of the big shot of juice may yield you useless off the line I would definitely concentrate on traction if you get that aggressive. What kinda of rubber do you have on the rear?
D-Day
I have spent aprox. 9 grand on my L. Result 496/562 to the rear on a stock engine, bolt ons only and I might add no juice.
I pulled off a conservative 12.294 at 111 mph during one of my first four 1/4 mile passes a couple weekends ago. Discovered that there is a hellofalot more to racing than meets the eye. Traction was an issue, my chip file is very safe and man do I need a stall converter. Goal = 11 second truck with stock block no juice. With some fine tuning with my file and a stall I am very confident I will get there.
Your ideas of the big shot of juice may yield you useless off the line I would definitely concentrate on traction if you get that aggressive. What kinda of rubber do you have on the rear?
D-Day
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From: New Orleans
V10? V10?,,, I got yer V10 right here 
, it's not as pretty as the SRT trucks, but until you get them down in the 10's you will still have to get in the kitchen and make me some pie, or something
, it's not as pretty as the SRT trucks, but until you get them down in the 10's you will still have to get in the kitchen and make me some pie, or something
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From: Payson, Az. U.S.A.
'01's wife here.
First, a couple of points.
V10, if you are going to post "facts" about the hemi, please learn them first. You can do this by spending time on Dodge boards........... like I do.
You would learn that it is impossible to "slap" a supercharger on a hemi engine at this time. The reason??? Noone makes a kit for them yet, due to Dodges refusal to let the tuners have the proprietory information on the computers. Thus, there is no way to tune the computer to not run lean with the blower.
Also, you would learn that there is now a general thought amongst the hemi owners trying to modify their trucks, that there is a wall in the computer. Basically, after 280-290rwhp, the trucks are basically seeing no gain.............. no matter what the mod (short of nitrous, which does not have anything to do with the computer). The thinking here is that Dodge is trying to protect the drivetrain, thus eliminating needless warranty work (for those who remove their mods before going to the dealership).
Thus, the 345hp hemi engine is just that (kinda). In stock form, it puts 235-260 hp to the rear wheels, and 280-290 tq to the rear wheels. Stock '01+ Lightnings put 340-360hp to the rear wheels, and 410-420lb ft of torque to the rear wheels.
That kinda blows your "only 35 more hp" out of the water........... don't you think???
Another point. The Syclone is not the "second fastest" stock truck out there. The Lightning is. The Ram SRT-10 ran 154.?? top speed, and the Lightning was 147.??. The Syclone was limited to the 120 range. They were never known as top speed vehicles. The higher the speed, the more they fell on their faces. What the Syclone is is quick. It is light, and it has AWD............ it had no choice but to be quick. Whether it is the quickest............. or second quickest............... that is still debated. Just like whether the Ram SRT-10 is quicker than the L is still up in the air.
Frankly, the facts just are not in yet. At this point, it is a drivers race to lose.
Finally, the MSRP of the Ram starts at $45,750. The L is $33,600. That is more than $10K............... and doesn't even count options for the Ram, which can bring it perilously close to $50K............... while the only option on the Lightning will add $150 to its price.
PS, the Ram is able to haul anywhere from 950lbs to 1200lbs based on which publication you want to believe. It is not recommended to tow with.
For someone to get so many easily verified facts wrong, one has to seriously doubt your entire post. Hell, even guys on the SRT10 forums don't believe it till they see it.
I am not saying you are lying................ however, you have certainly done nothing to verify that you are telling the truth. Remember that even a Lightning owner will get grilled pretty good if he runs a time that seems out of the norm. It is way to easy to pretend to be about anything that you want to be on the internet.
Maybe it is just me, but I find it to be quite the coincidence that your time is EXACTLY the same as what Dodge first said the Ram would run................ you know, before they backpeddled to the 13.8.
BTW, if I am proven wrong, it won't bother me one bit. I respect all other vehicles out there............ and enjoy the competition. It is some of the owners that I could do without.
Oh, one last thing.............. have you gotten the bolts on your cam sprocket checked yet???
First, a couple of points.
V10, if you are going to post "facts" about the hemi, please learn them first. You can do this by spending time on Dodge boards........... like I do.
You would learn that it is impossible to "slap" a supercharger on a hemi engine at this time. The reason??? Noone makes a kit for them yet, due to Dodges refusal to let the tuners have the proprietory information on the computers. Thus, there is no way to tune the computer to not run lean with the blower.
Also, you would learn that there is now a general thought amongst the hemi owners trying to modify their trucks, that there is a wall in the computer. Basically, after 280-290rwhp, the trucks are basically seeing no gain.............. no matter what the mod (short of nitrous, which does not have anything to do with the computer). The thinking here is that Dodge is trying to protect the drivetrain, thus eliminating needless warranty work (for those who remove their mods before going to the dealership).
Thus, the 345hp hemi engine is just that (kinda). In stock form, it puts 235-260 hp to the rear wheels, and 280-290 tq to the rear wheels. Stock '01+ Lightnings put 340-360hp to the rear wheels, and 410-420lb ft of torque to the rear wheels.
That kinda blows your "only 35 more hp" out of the water........... don't you think???
Another point. The Syclone is not the "second fastest" stock truck out there. The Lightning is. The Ram SRT-10 ran 154.?? top speed, and the Lightning was 147.??. The Syclone was limited to the 120 range. They were never known as top speed vehicles. The higher the speed, the more they fell on their faces. What the Syclone is is quick. It is light, and it has AWD............ it had no choice but to be quick. Whether it is the quickest............. or second quickest............... that is still debated. Just like whether the Ram SRT-10 is quicker than the L is still up in the air.
Frankly, the facts just are not in yet. At this point, it is a drivers race to lose.
Finally, the MSRP of the Ram starts at $45,750. The L is $33,600. That is more than $10K............... and doesn't even count options for the Ram, which can bring it perilously close to $50K............... while the only option on the Lightning will add $150 to its price.
PS, the Ram is able to haul anywhere from 950lbs to 1200lbs based on which publication you want to believe. It is not recommended to tow with.
For someone to get so many easily verified facts wrong, one has to seriously doubt your entire post. Hell, even guys on the SRT10 forums don't believe it till they see it.
I am not saying you are lying................ however, you have certainly done nothing to verify that you are telling the truth. Remember that even a Lightning owner will get grilled pretty good if he runs a time that seems out of the norm. It is way to easy to pretend to be about anything that you want to be on the internet.
Maybe it is just me, but I find it to be quite the coincidence that your time is EXACTLY the same as what Dodge first said the Ram would run................ you know, before they backpeddled to the 13.8.
BTW, if I am proven wrong, it won't bother me one bit. I respect all other vehicles out there............ and enjoy the competition. It is some of the owners that I could do without.
Oh, one last thing.............. have you gotten the bolts on your cam sprocket checked yet???
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From: Shelton, CT
Wow, I can't believe all the responses to this fruit's thread...
There was a KB Hemi-Ram in one of the truck mags a few months back. I think it made well over 500 HP as well.
The whitetrash ain't scared.
Originally posted by '01ArrestMeRed
You would learn that it is impossible to "slap" a supercharger on a hemi engine at this time. The reason??? Noone makes a kit for them yet, due to Dodges refusal to let the tuners have the proprietory information on the computers.
You would learn that it is impossible to "slap" a supercharger on a hemi engine at this time. The reason??? Noone makes a kit for them yet, due to Dodges refusal to let the tuners have the proprietory information on the computers.
The whitetrash ain't scared.
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From: Jasper Alabama
Well im stil going to the dodge place tommorow to check out the SRT-10 there. BUt when i came home tonight my neighbor had a brand new red SRT-10 witting in his drive. I would talk to him and check out the truck but hes not a friendly guy
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From: Arlington
I dont know where Duval county is, but I live in the DFW area, and there are plenty of L's ready to race you if you make a trip to our neck of the woods. HALO or TALON will be waiting. You better pack a lunch.