You alabama boys have long way to go to catch my ported blower. And yes it was installed by 12leavu... Well kinda sorta.


12leavu you should put this in your sig..........


"Don't hate the players, Hate the Game"

 

im gonna have to take mine off and do it with my dremel i guess. I want to work the upper inlet more than the exit. I dont feel confindent with removing the rotors and reinstalling them. I think id mess it up somehow.

 

It sounds as if you are saying that since you guys machine the case "right" there will be no long term rotor wear or teflon flaking. Is that a written guarantee? How long have you tested your ported blowers to make such a guarantee?

 

I didn't make that connection about any such guarantee Guys are beating this thing to death much more then they do a CAI or any other mod. It works and the price is very reasonable

 

Agreed, I see no connection either. Like all the other mods if you want to and have so much time you can make your own. However this seems like one of the better mods for the money, lets see hack away at my blower or send it out to a company with a good reputation and great customer service. I know wht my choice is.

Apten

 

Well, if Apten is stating that the port must be done "right" or damage will occur then the question we must ask is(if they don't offer a warranty) why should they be trusted over someone else to perform the porting. Also, how long and under what conditions did they test their port job to conclude that no extra wear or clearance problems occured?
Maybe I shouldn't have jumped the gun and concluded that Apten offers a warranty. I just thought that if someone was bashing the DIYers and the competition about "wear" that they must have a good warranty.

FYI, do a search for CAI and you will see that there are many many many threads with discussion concerning CAI. There are only a couple concerning blower porting.

Concering reasonable price. Is 20 extra HP worth $400? Not to me when you can get 100+ hp for $3000-3800...With a warranty.

 

OBSERVATION:

$400/20hp = $20/hp without warranty

$3400/100hp = $34/hp with warranty
(3400 is 1/2 between 3000 and 3800)


to get 100hp without warranty you need to spend $2000, instead of the averaged $3400 with warranty for a difference of $1400.00.

So a warranty is worth $1400?

that becomes very interesting when you consider:
You can buy an Eaton on Ebay or in the clasifieds for $300?


Also, the KB quality has been questionable, by reading some of the posts lately in here and NLOC.
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Why about the magnum powers from JDM?
figure on the same numbers as the KB at a lower price

$1500/100hp = $15/hp.


INTERESTING.

 

The problem with assigning a dollar amount to each horsepower is that the Apten is going to be limited to a horsepower which is lower than what the KB or Works is able to make. So, if you want 600+ rwhp you may not want to waste $400 on the Apten. Unless you are running nitrous.
Even with all of the KB problems I haven't heard of a warranty they have denied yet. At least they have a warranty.
As far as the JDM blower I didn't know they were selling those yet.

 

true...

but with the KB or works, to get 600hp, you need to build the bottom end which adds $$$.

again, it was an objective view.

also, JDM has 3 Magnum powers in stock right now, but they are slated for customer trucks.... more on the way

 

You talking about a warranty for the KB or a warranty for the truck?

 

When you port the bottom of the case, it changes rotor clearances because the case is heat treated. So when you do that steps have to be taken to maintain those clearances. The factory clearances are so tight that you cannot fit a piece of paper between the rotors and the case.

That's not meant as a BASH to DIY people, just a warning that you need to be careful with these things.

Brian

 

That's not meant as a BASH to DIY people, just a warning that you need to be careful with these things.

Brian [/B][/QUOTE]

I was carefull! I can still fit a piece of paper between it. Brians right though, i would be nervous about doing something like that if i didn't do similar stuff everyday. I do though, so it was really no sweat. The only thing i had to worry about was clamping it to a machine properly. The blower cases will distort very easily, so do it your selfers, beware.

 

The rotors slide right out.. it's really fool proof..i guess besides you need them out to do any porting.. you're gonna make a mess.

 

Removing the rotors is easy. Just drain the fluid with a pump first, then take it apart.

I'm not sure what the recommendations are for re-lubing the bearings, but if you don't want to do that put tape over them so that no shavings get into the bearings.

On mine I just used new high temp/pressure grease and re-did them. So far about 4k miles and no problems (not sure if thats a good or bad thing as I can use an excuse to get a new blower ...)

Not trying to get you to give away secrets here, but can you be a little more descriptive with how much porting would cause this? Are you talking about any opening of the outlet, or opening the outlet alot like in the pictures posted earlier in this thread?

 

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Not trying to get you to give away secrets here, but can you be a little more descriptive with how much porting would cause this? Are you talking about any opening of the outlet, or opening the outlet alot like in the pictures posted earlier in this thread? [/B][/QUOTE]

Trust me guys. if you already have the Apten, you no this, no matter how hard some of you want to admit it: the holes in my blower are NOT BIG. You guys that are still waiting on your apten will see what i mean, soon enough. I think apten is just trying to stress the importance of distortion and case tolarances. Not the size of the holes. I'm not speaking for them, thats just my opinion.