Took it up to 140 today
Originally posted by action 911
. . . Just, what can happen, happens.
. . . Just, what can happen, happens.
action, i know your point, my point is simply this. You can kill anyone on accident, you can die on accident, and yeah you can do things to avoid it. One of the easiest things to avoid it is never leave your home, but we don't do that because we have to live our lives. He wanted to go 140, i can't think of a better place to have done it.
Originally posted by action 911
Tim,
Your bike has way less frontal area to judge speed from. MAN besafe!!!
Just think about two bikes coming at you, one is at 150 and one is at 80. At times and the right light of day it's hard to tell the closing rate on the two.
Herb
Tim,
Your bike has way less frontal area to judge speed from. MAN besafe!!!
Just think about two bikes coming at you, one is at 150 and one is at 80. At times and the right light of day it's hard to tell the closing rate on the two.
Herb
But, that is for city driving. On the open road, that small frontal area also allows a bike to slip into impossibly small gaps in traffic. When someone moves over on me, I just calmly move on over and go about my business -- whether at 60 or 120. Just like driving on a race track, I think it's more about confidence than skill.
What's that they say -- never drive faster than your angel can fly!
grinomyte,
I see. Man it's just a sore subject with me. You see, I'm a State Trooper.
I've had to make the calls, knock on the doors late at night and give the news. Help the M.E. load the van. Really we all pay in the form of higher insurance.
Herb
I see. Man it's just a sore subject with me. You see, I'm a State Trooper.
I've had to make the calls, knock on the doors late at night and give the news. Help the M.E. load the van. Really we all pay in the form of higher insurance.
Herb
Good Gawd...
Not trying to start a flame here, but man...
I read through this post and while I don't own a L, I can speak of driving fast and such. I lived in Germany for 5 years and had everything from junkers to nice sports sedans and I ran all of them at 110 MPH or over - that's over 180 KP/H in case you're wondering. In my nicer, more powerful cars, I would cruise in the 125-140MPH range (that's 210-230 KP/H). Did I have a death grip on the wheel? No! In fact, I drove comfortably with one hand on the wheel and the other was free for shifting or radio/HVAC.. And when cruising in the left or middle lane, you are always passing other cars going 30, 40 or 50+ MPH slower... And for you guys that think I was driving a $30k BMW or something, think again.. I was driving cars that had over 100k miles on them and were 10+ years old.
Anyways, the point I am getting at is this, going 140 is not as ***** to the wall as some of you think when done conservatively. If any of you guys have gone over 100-105, then you've pretty much already broken the hauling **** "wall" as I like to call it. That's the point where you're not only going fast, but you know it! You know what I mean where that transition starts happening right around 95-100 or just as you pass 160 KPH... Now, what I mean by "conservatively" is basically driving like you do at 80, alert, no sharp wheel movements and scanning way far ahead...
And for you guys concerned about the cars on the other side or the truck, do you really think there would be a difference if he was doing 80 and there was an accident? If you think so, you're pretty much wrong... When you have two cars coming at one another, once your break a combined speed of 100 or more, it's pure luck from there. Don't believe me? Think about that dude from the video driving a stolen corvette that lost control and struck the back of a big rig, he was ejected and didn't have a scratch on him.. That's what I mean by it's pure luck.
Lightnings have good suspension systems, good tires, good brakes and I don't even need to talk about the motors. To further reinforce, most of you guys not only set, but are the example for routine maintenance and caring for your vehicle.
Additionally, if there was a list of AMERICAN cars that I would trust going that fast, you're damn skippy that the LIGHTNING WOULD BE ONE OF THEM!
Maybe I should make a list...
Now, I do agree that it is not the smartest thing to run that fast and the track is the better place to run that fast, but that's primarily because America has a lot of dumb***** drivers that don't pay attention... But that's a whole 'nother thread!
I read through this post and while I don't own a L, I can speak of driving fast and such. I lived in Germany for 5 years and had everything from junkers to nice sports sedans and I ran all of them at 110 MPH or over - that's over 180 KP/H in case you're wondering. In my nicer, more powerful cars, I would cruise in the 125-140MPH range (that's 210-230 KP/H). Did I have a death grip on the wheel? No! In fact, I drove comfortably with one hand on the wheel and the other was free for shifting or radio/HVAC.. And when cruising in the left or middle lane, you are always passing other cars going 30, 40 or 50+ MPH slower... And for you guys that think I was driving a $30k BMW or something, think again.. I was driving cars that had over 100k miles on them and were 10+ years old.
Anyways, the point I am getting at is this, going 140 is not as ***** to the wall as some of you think when done conservatively. If any of you guys have gone over 100-105, then you've pretty much already broken the hauling **** "wall" as I like to call it. That's the point where you're not only going fast, but you know it! You know what I mean where that transition starts happening right around 95-100 or just as you pass 160 KPH... Now, what I mean by "conservatively" is basically driving like you do at 80, alert, no sharp wheel movements and scanning way far ahead...
And for you guys concerned about the cars on the other side or the truck, do you really think there would be a difference if he was doing 80 and there was an accident? If you think so, you're pretty much wrong... When you have two cars coming at one another, once your break a combined speed of 100 or more, it's pure luck from there. Don't believe me? Think about that dude from the video driving a stolen corvette that lost control and struck the back of a big rig, he was ejected and didn't have a scratch on him.. That's what I mean by it's pure luck.
Lightnings have good suspension systems, good tires, good brakes and I don't even need to talk about the motors. To further reinforce, most of you guys not only set, but are the example for routine maintenance and caring for your vehicle.
Additionally, if there was a list of AMERICAN cars that I would trust going that fast, you're damn skippy that the LIGHTNING WOULD BE ONE OF THEM!
Maybe I should make a list...
Now, I do agree that it is not the smartest thing to run that fast and the track is the better place to run that fast, but that's primarily because America has a lot of dumb***** drivers that don't pay attention... But that's a whole 'nother thread!
Last edited by ReelWork; Nov 4, 2003 at 01:50 AM.
Some call it luck I call it dynamics. The guy in the vette was ejected because he didn't have a seatbelt on.
We can say, what if this, what if that all night long. He made it pass the truck this time, but the next time he may not be so lucky.
If he keeps doing it the perpercentage is going up that something will happen.
We don't live in Germany. Our interstate system wasn't designed for the high speeds.
Herb
We can say, what if this, what if that all night long. He made it pass the truck this time, but the next time he may not be so lucky.
If he keeps doing it the perpercentage is going up that something will happen.
We don't live in Germany. Our interstate system wasn't designed for the high speeds.
Herb
NOW THIS IS STUPID!
well, let me jump right in and say this far less "stupid" (as many are saying) than when I ran my L to 140. I wasnt on a freeway and the conditions where far from perfect. I was racing a T/A down a 2 lane road with houses on it and the road was damp. Now you all want to say something was stupid, that was STUPID! I thought about it right after I did it and thought how god damn stupid can I be. I know better than that, but I did it anyways. All it would have taken was a person backing out of their driveway and I would not be here. Atleast he did it on the highway.
Now you can all call my actions stupid and such, and I will certainly agree with you.
Chris
Now you can all call my actions stupid and such, and I will certainly agree with you.
Chris
Last edited by jakhammer; Nov 4, 2003 at 03:38 AM.
Well...
Originally posted by action 911
We can say, what if this, what if that all night long. He made it pass the truck this time, but the next time he may not be so lucky.
We don't live in Germany. Our interstate system wasn't designed for the high speeds.
We can say, what if this, what if that all night long. He made it pass the truck this time, but the next time he may not be so lucky.
We don't live in Germany. Our interstate system wasn't designed for the high speeds.
Are you scared everytime you walk outside that something will happen to you? It kinda sounds like it???
Gesh, Shane jumped up there, ran it up, snapped a pic and slowed back down.
Oh yeah, he paused for a "this rocks" moment...
Took about as long you reading this post....
He wasn't drving cross country or even across the city, he was on a rural stretch of interstate and a darn nice loooking stretch at that! While our highways are not designed for speed is actually true, that applies primarily to the way we design curves - we have flatter, straighter and longer stretches of highways than the Germans will ever have and it looks to me like Shane picked the perfect stretch of road to do what he did.
If I were going to test my limits on a road, the road like the one he was on is EXACTLY where I would picture doing it...
Shane, what have we learned from this? Next time you speed, don't post it!
Later and have a great day...

Chris
Originally posted by action 911
At 100mph you are traveling approximately 150 per second. 1000ft to go before the semi? It may change lanes?????
Do the math for 140mph. I think the above pic with the semi in the right lane is a bad decision!
A time distance deal here people. Worst case: The semi driver looks into his mirror and decides to make a lane change to pass a slower truck in the right lane. Because it looks as if the pickup truck in the left lane is 1000ft away. He is unable to detect the speed from the frontal view of the pickup. NO WAY IS THE LIGHTNING GOING TO STOP IN TIME, NO WAY!!!! What's the 60ft stopping distance on our truck's?
Herb
At 100mph you are traveling approximately 150 per second. 1000ft to go before the semi? It may change lanes?????
Do the math for 140mph. I think the above pic with the semi in the right lane is a bad decision!
A time distance deal here people. Worst case: The semi driver looks into his mirror and decides to make a lane change to pass a slower truck in the right lane. Because it looks as if the pickup truck in the left lane is 1000ft away. He is unable to detect the speed from the frontal view of the pickup. NO WAY IS THE LIGHTNING GOING TO STOP IN TIME, NO WAY!!!! What's the 60ft stopping distance on our truck's?
Herb
Not trying to say that is good idea to pass other traffic with a huge speed differential, my personal rule of thumb is twenty miles per hour max and even that depends on conditions. At the point that picture was snapped there are still many options open. Assuming that the other vehicle is also moving at highway speed one of the options is to never pass that vehicle. I will also add that at the time that picture was snapped and assuming a rate of speed of 140 it is definitely time to slow things down so that you are traveling a reasonable speed before overtaking that upcoming vehicle.
Originally posted by Tim Skelton
The chances of the L --traveling in a straight line on an empty highway with speed-rated tires-- having an incident at speed, leaving the highway, crossing the median, and striking another vehicle is too small to calculate. No reason to include it in the "risk calculation" at all.
The chances of the L --traveling in a straight line on an empty highway with speed-rated tires-- having an incident at speed, leaving the highway, crossing the median, and striking another vehicle is too small to calculate. No reason to include it in the "risk calculation" at all.
And this kind of thing does happen...



