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Ill take one.. Diliberoj@aol.com.
I am suppose to get my 4lb lower and reflash this weekend from BOP we will see how that goes. Later
I am suppose to get my 4lb lower and reflash this weekend from BOP we will see how that goes. Later
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i'm happy that you are happy with your reflash, i now have some questions?
1) what timing are you running at WOT?
1a)what is "targer" a/f for 1
2) once the 75 shot is on, what timing will the computer "adjust" too at WOT
2a)what is "target" a/f for 2
3) once the weather goes below 50 and the stock PCM adds 3 degrees of timing from what the timing from question 1 is what will your timing be? (should be 1 plus 3)
3a)what will target a/f be for 3?
thanks
1) what timing are you running at WOT?
1a)what is "targer" a/f for 1
2) once the 75 shot is on, what timing will the computer "adjust" too at WOT
2a)what is "target" a/f for 2
3) once the weather goes below 50 and the stock PCM adds 3 degrees of timing from what the timing from question 1 is what will your timing be? (should be 1 plus 3)
3a)what will target a/f be for 3?
thanks
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Originally posted by beefcake
i'm happy that you are happy with your reflash, i now have some questions?
1) what timing are you running at WOT?
1a)what is "targer" a/f for 1
2) once the 75 shot is on, what timing will the computer "adjust" too at WOT
2a)what is "target" a/f for 2
3) once the weather goes below 50 and the stock PCM adds 3 degrees of timing from what the timing from question 1 is what will your timing be? (should be 1 plus 3)
3a)what will target a/f be for 3?
thanks
i'm happy that you are happy with your reflash, i now have some questions?
1) what timing are you running at WOT?
1a)what is "targer" a/f for 1
2) once the 75 shot is on, what timing will the computer "adjust" too at WOT
2a)what is "target" a/f for 2
3) once the weather goes below 50 and the stock PCM adds 3 degrees of timing from what the timing from question 1 is what will your timing be? (should be 1 plus 3)
3a)what will target a/f be for 3?
thanks
I'm not surprised you would ask question #3 because I really do think you think this works the same way as a chip - just like your tuners are feeding you. How the heck is a "reflash" going to influence a "stock" setup? Does the computer develop a multiple personality or something? You have got to be kidding, right?
Jim
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Hey, send on my way would ya? There are a few of us at work that would like to see the dyno graph.
Thanks, Thor!
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Thanks, Thor!
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Originally posted by jmimac351
Beefcake, after this, it is no longer a "stock" pcm. It is no longer doing something to influence "stock" timing. "Stock" is not part of the equation anymore. It's a whole new program. It's a whole new game.
Jim
Beefcake, after this, it is no longer a "stock" pcm. It is no longer doing something to influence "stock" timing. "Stock" is not part of the equation anymore. It's a whole new program. It's a whole new game.
Jim
I really am not flaming this whole reflash thing, but here is what I dont get;
Nobody has answered any of the pertinent questions regarding how the new reflash achieves its A/F goal and what goal that actually is. I understand that the A/F goal could be different for various vehicles, but so is timing and converter lockup and EGR control and spark advance/retard (not to be confused with total timing) and all the other OBDII controls that the computer must do for emissions and driveability.
Are all of the IM readiness monitors still active? Are the catalyst efficiency monitors still active and working? Is the EVAP monitor,EGR monitor, Misfire monitor, and HO2S HTR monitor still active?
There are literally hundreds of different chip programs and combinations of those programs out on the market that have hundreds of different point to point variables written into them, so are you saying that their is going to be hundreds and hundreds of different reflash programs to compensate for all the different variables? or are there just a few reflash programs that will cover all the bases?
Havent we already buried the idea that this reflash will "adjust" to any new mod? or are we still debating that point?
If there is only one question that I myself need answered, it would be "how does it achieve its A/F goal without looking at the 02 sensors?" How does it know you dont have a bad coil or broke electrode, or clogged exhaust, or stuck open EGR valve? All of these would cause poor running conditions that wouldnt be detected just by looking at the MAF and IAT (not ACT).
Any why oh why doesnt the person that does these or is marketing these reflashes come here, to the largest F150 community, with the most exposure, and just make a simple post to try to explain how this works?
PLEASE UTILIZE
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Originally posted by Grey03
As long as you are running the Ford computer, it is a "stock" PCM. I think what you are trying to say is that the programming is not stock and its such a whole new game that its beyond comprehension
I really am not flaming this whole reflash thing, but here is what I dont get;
Nobody has answered any of the pertinent questions regarding how the new reflash achieves its A/F goal and what goal that actually is. I understand that the A/F goal could be different for various vehicles, but so is timing and converter lockup and EGR control and spark advance/retard (not to be confused with total timing) and all the other OBDII controls that the computer must do for emissions and driveability.
Are all of the IM readiness monitors still active? Are the catalyst efficiency monitors still active and working? Is the EVAP monitor,EGR monitor, Misfire monitor, and HO2S HTR monitor still active?
There are literally hundreds of different chip programs and combinations of those programs out on the market that have hundreds of different point to point variables written into them, so are you saying that their is going to be hundreds and hundreds of different reflash programs to compensate for all the different variables? or are there just a few reflash programs that will cover all the bases?
Havent we already buried the idea that this reflash will "adjust" to any new mod? or are we still debating that point?
If there is only one question that I myself need answered, it would be "how does it achieve its A/F goal without looking at the 02 sensors?" How does it know you dont have a bad coil or broke electrode, or clogged exhaust, or stuck open EGR valve? All of these would cause poor running conditions that wouldnt be detected just by looking at the MAF and IAT (not ACT).
Any why oh why doesnt the person that does these or is marketing these reflashes come here, to the largest F150 community, with the most exposure, and just make a simple post to try to explain how this works?
PLEASE UTILIZE
As long as you are running the Ford computer, it is a "stock" PCM. I think what you are trying to say is that the programming is not stock and its such a whole new game that its beyond comprehension
I really am not flaming this whole reflash thing, but here is what I dont get;
Nobody has answered any of the pertinent questions regarding how the new reflash achieves its A/F goal and what goal that actually is. I understand that the A/F goal could be different for various vehicles, but so is timing and converter lockup and EGR control and spark advance/retard (not to be confused with total timing) and all the other OBDII controls that the computer must do for emissions and driveability.
Are all of the IM readiness monitors still active? Are the catalyst efficiency monitors still active and working? Is the EVAP monitor,EGR monitor, Misfire monitor, and HO2S HTR monitor still active?
There are literally hundreds of different chip programs and combinations of those programs out on the market that have hundreds of different point to point variables written into them, so are you saying that their is going to be hundreds and hundreds of different reflash programs to compensate for all the different variables? or are there just a few reflash programs that will cover all the bases?
Havent we already buried the idea that this reflash will "adjust" to any new mod? or are we still debating that point?
If there is only one question that I myself need answered, it would be "how does it achieve its A/F goal without looking at the 02 sensors?" How does it know you dont have a bad coil or broke electrode, or clogged exhaust, or stuck open EGR valve? All of these would cause poor running conditions that wouldnt be detected just by looking at the MAF and IAT (not ACT).
Any why oh why doesnt the person that does these or is marketing these reflashes come here, to the largest F150 community, with the most exposure, and just make a simple post to try to explain how this works?
PLEASE UTILIZE
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Originally posted by Grey03
Havent we already buried the idea that this reflash will "adjust" to any new mod? or are we still debating that point?
If there is only one question that I myself need answered, it would be "how does it achieve its A/F goal without looking at the 02 sensors?" How does it know you dont have a bad coil or broke electrode, or clogged exhaust, or stuck open EGR valve? All of these would cause poor running conditions that wouldnt be detected just by looking at the MAF and IAT (not ACT).
Havent we already buried the idea that this reflash will "adjust" to any new mod? or are we still debating that point?
If there is only one question that I myself need answered, it would be "how does it achieve its A/F goal without looking at the 02 sensors?" How does it know you dont have a bad coil or broke electrode, or clogged exhaust, or stuck open EGR valve? All of these would cause poor running conditions that wouldnt be detected just by looking at the MAF and IAT (not ACT).
It does still use the 02 sensors at part throttle, just like stock "programming". I've answered this exact question you posed in a previous post. After all of this bantering back and forth I think it is best if you just call Mark at blueovalperformance.com - so he can tell you the same thing. I wouldn't hold my breath for the person actually doing this to post here.
If that's not good enough and if you won't believe Mark, then I guess you'll just have to wonder why Nate is happy.
Jim