Well, I'm not Works themselves, so I can't really comment on what their plans may be to test a blower on a 160mph salt flats kind of truck.

However, for those who are concerned with the durability of the Works 140, there are currently two test trucks running these blowers. One truck is a daily driven, stock motored truck, which has racked up over 15,000 miles with the Works blower. This truck is being used to test the Works 140 on a real, daily driven, regular run off the mill truck, and resides in CA (where Works is located), and has had zero problems, even with the crappy CA 91 octane. The second truck is more of a power test bed. This truck (also in CA with the crappy gas) had made 509 rwhp on the stock long block with only 20 psi. And this was not even at full rpms, since the Whipple moves so much air that the MAF was pegging at 4700rpms (another issue we are working to resolve).

 

Those of us who realize that drag racing takes about 5% of the skill of road racing.

 

JDM makes a spacer kit for use with Ruslow's panhard.

 

You are probaly right to certain extent and I will not get into a road racing vs. drag racing debate. They both have there pluses and minuses and are both a hell of a lot of fun.

I like going left and right , but I also love doing a Smokey burnout after the water box.

I am going to try and hang with the Pawn one time this year and do some twisties.


VINNIE

 

First we're bashing Blower and tuner reputations, now we're bashing drag racers...enough I say...

Let's stick to optimizing Lightnings, eh?

 

There are more than 50 specific claims at issue. HP claims are part of them, but there are also claims regarding reliability, efficiency, intercooler effectiveness, and other assorted claims.

However, even if company X makes more HP than company Y, that does not mean that they make a "better" blower. Much more than minor differences is HP should go into whatever subjective mix you use to determine the "better" blower.

I agree with you that who makes a "better" blower--Works or KB--will not be resolved here and now. In fact, the answer to that question is too subjective to ever have a "correct" answer.

But i still find this to be one of the most interesting and informative threads in recent history.

 

If I told you, I'd have to kill you.

 

Not bashing drag racers, just replying to an anti-road racer slam. I am a huge drag racing fan--but only the top fuelers.

I'm friends with Jerry Tolliver, driver of the WWF NHRA funny car. He freely admits that his skills are far less important than those of his crew chief--and funny cars are the most difficult to control drag racing vehicles. When I asked Jerry if he agreed with Craig Ormsby's statement that drag racing was 95% car, 5% driver, he did.

I drag raced my stock L once. With no traction issues and an automatic, it was just stomping the right foot and lifting it after crossing the line. Yawn. My mother could have posted the same 13.9 ETs.

Now a car with traction issues would make things way more interesting and require much more skill and vehicle prep. I intend to return to the drag strip, but only after I have way more power than stock.

Bottom line--all racing is cool. Drag racers are cool. Road racers are cool. It's all good.

 

Thats how I feel do what ever form of racing you like wheither it is drag racing dirt racing or road racing.What ever trips your trigger.But at the sametime I do not bash your form of racing so DON'T bash mine!What I do is more of being stupid in that I run around turns that are posted 55 and do it at 150 now that is somewhat gutsy but it is also stupid.You had better know what your vehicle is capable of and you as well.Stan

 

Guess not enough give a chit.

 

Seems like the predominant drag racing members just like to
control things. "Who gives a chit about road racing" or
something like that. Of course if one of the twisties guys
posted about the "knuckle dragging 1/4 milers" all h3LL
would break out.

Just my 2 cents ... I'm with Russ and Tim and Bob ... The
11 second adrenelin rush doesn't hold a candle to several
minutes/hours ...

Whatever the blower testing discovers, it is bound to benefit ALL of us.

 

I don't think you're not stupid. I think you're nuts.

On a related note, this thread doesn't (and shouldn't) have anything to do with which form of racing is better because it doesn't matter - it's still racing. I prefer women with larger chalungas. But, it doesn't mean that I don't enjoy the smaller ones - they're still chalungas! Racing is the same.

 

But where to mount your cameras? J/K

 

How about a tunnel ram and 2 1050's

 

I have a KB 1500 on my Mustang. Front seal leaking oil to blower. Per KB, only KB can replace the seal, cost $700. Flowzilla to replace original tortuous path, restrictive blower inlet tract, $700! Cost for a similar part from a non-captive audience would be far less, i.e. you can buy complete intakes which are far less compact and have more extensive machine work for much less! Besides, this is the intake the kit should have come with. Price to replace seal and buy Flowzilla, half the cost of a complete kit. I can buy a replacement Eaton supercharger for $800.


Never got KB on phone to answer technical questions. Sent e-mail but all answers that came two weeks later involved sending KB lots of dollars for new MAF, chip, etc rather than utilizing same/similar stuff I already owned and still no answers to my technical questions. One can stay in business a long time as long as there are new customers and little competition. There are not many choices in the market for compact, positive displacement blower kits. Yes, their are plenty of malcontent KB owners out here. Yes, I will no doubt purchase a higher capacity blower for my L at some point, but service and cost of future upgrades will be a big consideration for me before I set myself up as a captive audience again. Drag racers alone will not keep either supplier in business, durability on the street and service of those units will. With the internet out there now, service problems are getting harder to leave behind you. Especially if you actually have a internet site.