the hell with aftermarket blowers, ill just spray my stocker with nitrous or methanol for a fraction of the price. these tuners know their Sh*t but this is like reading about some high school kids debating whos car is faster. anyways isn't a twin screw going in the 05 lightning next year? just rip one of them off.......i can't afford a KB or Works, especially for a vehicle that already has a blower on it. you guys debate, ill take my stock roots blown truck to the beach and pick up some chicks.....

 

This is what I have been trying to help with or atleast willing to.How long can the boost levels stay high?I think what owners should be concerned about is what affect it has after more than 1/4 mile after all think about it!How many motors have BLOWN up at the track?The majority of them were done on the street after running a .5 mile or so.More time More heat.What I have offered is the MORE of everything,not just for the drag racers but it would benefit all.And give real time useable info.I have none instucive meters that I use to measure temps and such so I can put everything into what is on the street as far as coolant temps without losing the psi cap rating and such.
But like I said before my opinions matter very little and the advertising publicity is not there with me like it is with the tuners.After all when they show up at an event everyone notices when I show up at mine the other competitors notice but we do not have spectators.Which could be a good thing to for the blower people since if there was a durablity problem no one would know except me and the blower manufacture.
The one nice thing about me is I would test them without anyone really knowing and the results would be for the manufactures only.Stan

 

 

Romper Room 101 ...

 

Stan,

It's not that your thoughts and ideas are worthless or matter little. It's just that they are irrelevant to the overwhelming majority of this crowd. That's all. Their interest is either drag or how the Lightning looks when it's parked. And if a go-fast part is good enough to last 11 seconds, then it's good enough, and if it lasts 10 seconds, that is even better. And if at the end of drag racing day, it's parked in the dark outside Hooters and is sitting super-duper level, that's even better yet.

Since you're driving at WOT for almost 2,200 seconds (@ 165 mph ave.) instead of 11 seconds, it's FAR beyond the drag racer's interest or needs. Also, keep in mind that when drag racers crown "the fastest Lightning," the yardstick in which they measure "the fastest" is over a limited distance measured in feet, not miles. Therefore, 120+ mph trap speed is actually faster than you averaging 165 mph over 100 miles on street tires on an open road at 7000 ft elevation during the summer heat in Nevada.



BTW, I am pursuing getting the funds to do the event at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. It's a long shot, but it sounds like SO MUCH fun.

 

Who really gives a chit about road course?

 

So I like to go straight for 11 seconds and then clean my truck and go to Hooters.Its my truck.
I have also raced Sprint Karts and Dirt Oval.Big Deal.

BTW- Stan, your info is always valued here.It may not always seem that way , but valued none the less.



VINNIE

 

[QUOTE]This is why most people wave the KB banner Sal,

1 Lightningtuner ------ 1.510, 10.48 @ 131.80 (01, Red) CFLUTWDSEAKVGHBONZ
2 Jim@JDM ------------ 1.547, 10.590 @ 127.50 (01, Black) CFLUTWDSEKVRN
3 JohnnyLightning ---- 1.460, 10.590 @ 125.40 (01, Black)KB BLOWER

CFLUWPDSEAKVIHBORZ


11 SECOND CLUB

4 CharlieL--------------- 1.543, 11.040 @ 122.93 (99, Black)KB BLOWER

CFLUTWPDERBOKGAZ
5 Totaled --------------- 1.627, 11.158 @ 121.74 (01, Silver) CFLTWDEKVHBORN
6 Phyl'sL-------1.650, 11.210 @ 123.60(02,Red) CFLUTWDSEAMKGIHBORN
7 99svtlightning ------ 1.640, 11.400 @ 118.90 (01, Silver)KB BLOWER

CFLUTWPDERBOKGAZ

Three Lightnings in the top 7 are KB powered, 2 of them ran 1/2 second faster than they previously did just by changing from the Eaton to the KB, all of them with NO NITROUS.

When more Lightnings break into the Top Ten on this list with the Works blower, then you will see all the flag waving average out, its just bothering you now because its obvious that this list does more to the average consumer than any data that you can post.

MPH might be one thing guys, but all the MPH's so far by the fastest works blown Ligthning has come from NITROUS.

Can someone please tell me who has the fastest NON NITROUS works Lightning?? because its not on the list..

 

And I don't have a problem with that. In fact, if the Hooters in this area had decent looking girls, I'd skip the drag races but join you in the evening .

My point is that although there is the availability of product testing by Stan (aka Ruslow), it hasn't happened because none of the tuners have seen any value in it.

Imagine if Ruslow was able to average 165 mph thru the race season without engine problems because of a blower change?

Hmmm...
Brand X blower does 129 mph in the 1/4 mile.
Brand Y blower does 129 mph in the 1/4 mile AND is on a Lightning that averaged 165 mph over 100 miles at 7000 ft elevation in Nevada during the summer heat.

Which brand would you buy?

 

Hows brand Ys customer Service? J/K

I hear ya.
But realize that guys like me appreciate the stuff that guys like you and Stan do. It might not be always said, but it is appreciated.

Like I said earlier. I am very interested in an aftermarket blower and I am going to wait to see real world (Stop and Go) results.There will be alot of them out there and I hope over time I can make a constructive decision.

BTW- Stan from the looks of the new JDM Differential cover your bracket will not work with it. Will you be making an optional bracket ? as I would like to get your bar.

VINNIE

 

Stan
I think you have to give it a little time......your testing would be valuable but these guys are still workin it out amongst themselves, and it might take a little time before they even notice you.
Also this is just my opinion but, about half of the yo-yo's on this thread have offered there "services" so to speak and it might be better if you contact the right peaple in person if your serious, or if you want to be taken serious.
Again just my opinion
Dale

 

HAHA Ronbo.....You got called a "Yo-Yo".




Just trying to lighten the mood. Its getting a little stuffy in herrre(Nelly)

 

And with this logic... 4 out of 7 are powered "just by changing from 'all air' to Nitrous" with no aftermarket blower. So should we forget aftermarket blowers???

Let's give this topic a well deserved rest and look at it again in about 3 months.

 

I do

Stan brings up a very valuable point with the ability of any blower to maintain efficient boost levels over a sustained period of time. This can be the difference between a “qualifying” engine, and a “race” engine.

The cost associated with road racing is enormous compared to drag racing. While no racing is “cheap”, I can understand the cost vs. fun factor that bracket racing brings. I couldn’t tell you if I will ever put my truck on a drag strip, but I will wind out some twisties, and I would like to know how brand X blower is going to perform.

I may be in the minority among drag racers, but I can assure you people like Stan, Spike, and Tim would like the same answers as me.

 

That is my point I have contacted them back in June or there abouts,and have not heard.As for Vinnie saying I want stop and go results that is what I offer them.think of it this way
1] When have the motors 'blown up'?I have come to the conclusion it is on the way home from the drags.At the drags you want the motor and charger as cool as poss.but you can not do that while you are on the freeway doing a wot blast to impress some one.
2]So you just beat the chit out of that ZO6 at the strip and you are on the way home again and low and behold here he is again!You think once was not enough!I can show him again.BUT now your motor is hot your intercooler temp is hot and so is the blower.What do you think will happen now?

this is where my testing would of helped.I would surely think that after 8 miles at WOT EVERYTHING is hot.that is the difference between doing dyno runs and 11 sec blasts down the strip and what I do.Stan