Scientist are repeatedly challenged by the true believers to disprove the claims of the pseudo-scientists. But in science it doesn't work that way. Instead, the burden of proof rests squarely on those who make the claim in the first place, not on others to prove them wrong. Besides, science can never prove a negative.

For example those who believe that space aliens are hiding among us often demand that scientists prove them wrong. But how can scientist possibly prove that no where on Earth is a space alien in disguise, or that no person has ever been cured of cancer by homeopathic medicine, or that no one in California has ESP ability. Can't be done. So instead, science requires that those who make such claims provide the evidence comes forth, science has no reason to waste it's time with the claim.

 

Then prove to me where we came from... No guessing, no theory, just a straight up, no *****, we were formed from single cell proto plasma, and evolved in to what we are...

But here's the question: While that is a quite possibly viable theory, where are all the in betweens? Surely not all creatures evolves at the same rate, therefore, there MUST be something between us an them... What is it?

I believe it a superior being, popularily known as God.

BTW, I'm not the arguing against his existance.... you are, therefore the burden of proof lies on YOU!

 

You seem to be a brick shy of a load
That brick wall gave different results

 

Why is it we as a people cannot believe in God or not, or Allah or some other supreme being without getting into someones face about it. I think America was founded on the fact that one can worship as they wish without any repercussion from everyone else. Yet there seems to aways be an argument about different religions on these boards calling people who don't see things thier way "wack jobs" I guess some people just can't leave it alone.

Guess I am in before the lock.

Back to the original topic of this thread, I still belive it is not right to put that mosque there. They have the right to put one anywhere but not there. It is simular to me not wanting a sex offender or a rowdy bar next to my house. Some things are not appropriate.

 

Sure, as soon as you prove the Easter Bunny doesn't exist, I'll do the same.

Your belief in god is irrational and this is a result of a mental defect.
It's not too late to seek professional help, lol

It's no surprise that atheists make up less than 1% of America's prison population. What a surprise, wonder why that is?

How many children have been molested by people associated with the various church's? How many people have been killed in the name of god?

I've been to church too, as a young fella I was brought up as a Christian, I saw all the hypocrites in there every Sunday.
Stealin, thieving, scamming all through the week, and then on Sunday all the sins are wisked away by your imaginary friend in the sky, haha, yeah, I suppose that would let people sleep better.

God doesnt exist by default, and no amount of whining and crying will change that, and until you can prove otherwise, you've got nothing to cling to except your little dream that god will make everything better for you.

I do see the value in it though, no really...
once you give in to the fairy tale, you no longer have to accept any responsibility for anything anymore.

Something bad happens, it's not because you were a shmuk, it's because "oh, god must have a plan, thats why my brother died in the car wreck"

its much easier than saying "maybe if my brother didnt have 8 beers and drive home, he wouldnt have hit the tree and died".

It takes all the pressure of people.

Same thing for all the mysteries of the world we dont understand 'yet', its much easier to hold god responsbile for things we dont know.

Sort of like when we didn't understand thunder... "Oh Suzie, you were a bad girl, look you made god angry"

Oh Billy, you didnt go to church on Sunday, look, now you made god cry (because its raining outside)

Seriously guys, you're much smarter than this, wake up and use that little brain that god gave you and figure it out.

Face it, were all stuck on this planet alone, and thats the way it is. There's no Santa up in the sky who will take you to the north pole when you die and put you to work in the toy factory.

 

I think I can save you Tumba, a little more deprogramming and you'll be as right as rain.

 

I forgot what this thread was about...

 

Well, since this thread is already off-topic....



This reminded me of these videos:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgg2tpUVbXQ

 

You left out Al Gore and global warming.
Heck it might even sound goofy if they put in "I believe you're right!"

Funny how you guys blast him for not being tolerant of other's beliefs then make a napom run on his beliefs. IDK maybe it's just me but it seems like alot of pots calling alot of kettles black around here.

 

Oh yea I forgot to say NO FREEKIN MOSQUE AT GROUNG ZERO!!!

That's my $0.02

 

There are no final absolutes in science, only varying degrees of probability, although in a number of cases the level of certainty is extremely high. There are laws of physics for which no exceptions have ever been found.

Scientific theories are constantly open to the possibility of rejection in light of new evidence. Even incredibly well-documented scientific theories such as biological evolution, or the earth moving around our sun could conceivably give way to even more grand theories not even imaginable at this time.

Science can't learn about "things" which can't be tested or observed. For example, science will never be able to prove or disprove the existence of an imaginary god, nor whether or not this God is working through the natural laws, with everything happening to us a part of "God's Plan". And science will never be able to prove or disprove the religious belief that we each have a non-material soul that lives on after death, or that human evolution was somehow planned, or even attempt to destroy faith in Biblical infallibility, or that Jesus really was physically resurrected.

As I mentioned before, science can never disprove the claim that there are space aliens hiding among us somewhere on Earth, or that someone, somewhere is psychic. When evidence and facts don't count for much imagination can run wild.


Again I'm not arguing the existence of an imaginary god, you are therefore the burden of proof lies on YOU!

 

I think that has already been established.

Of course it's only worth 2 cents.

 

A sharp tongue is no indication a keen mind man.

Was it the wall that gave different results or was it the force applied to the brick wall that caused different results?

Hmmmm.....or maybe, the imaginary god wanted it that way.

 

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


That is the definition I was referring to..
I just couldn't think of the whole phrase earlier. I added the steel simply because I knew the thick skull you have could break brick. But it just cracks the average man's head open. I learned over the years of membership here. There aren't even any fresh ideas from the agnostics, or the atheist. I see the same argument over and over. You just get new victims to say your repetitive phrases to.
It would be refreshing to see a new thought cross your and your cronies minds.
But your mind was closed by the people that tried to teach you out of fear, and not out of compassion.

Though I can understand how much you may have tried the patience of your teachers. It would be hard to teach a class, when a disruptive student simply wouldn't allow the teacher to do his job. It seems you have already forgotten how much we have in common. But you have forgotten the one thing we don't have in common. Let me remind you. Seek and the door will be opened.

But I can tell you. the door will only be opened to a true seeker. Not a scarred and narrow minded person. Also don't forget my biblical reference to the ones that believe , but do not understand. Isaiah 29:13

That will be all you need from me here. As always, I wish you and the rest of your cronies the best.


Edit:
Nothing personal, as I've based all my comments on what you have stated in other threads over a period of time. Not just what you have said in this one. No hard feelings, I hope.

 

Good job at avoiding my question... Again, on the premise that there is no God, we still had to come from somewhere. By closing your mind to things you cannot observe with the 5 senses, the only other theory that explains humans is evolution, but it doesn't hold water. Where are the in betweens?

There are many things that science cannot explain... therefore, religion or belief in a higher being is a good way to look at it. But, it's not what you observe, it's what you can feel. If you insist on disbelief, you'll never be able to discover that there could be another side to the argument.

Habibi,

What you say is true. It is used as a crutch and an excuse... But that was never the intent. God never said, "I'll take responsibility off your shoulders and on to mine." He said, " I'll help to shoulder your own responsibility."

It's all in how you choose to view it.

And for the guy with the Bible quotes,

You sound like you're reaching out pretty far... Anyone could take anything out of context and make it sound like it supports their reasoning. You won't get far trying to quote the Bible as proof against it's writer....