It's not about the color of a mans skin...
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Thanks, dexx. I'm glad we can agree to disagree with some intelligence.
You too, Shines. I had to take a little trip backwards after our past posts. I had to remember that you're here to test me, and I almost failed.
You know, it's hard to explain to people about days like today when the person you're talking to doesn't quite understand where you're coming from. Or where you've been.
I took a trip to the Civil Rights Museum in Memphis. It was my wife's idea. I really didn't want to go. But I'm glad she dragged me down there. It's amazing to see what people, black and white, had to endure so that they could just use a public restroom or take a sip of water without being beaten so bad, their family members couldn't recognize them. High pressure hoses, police dogs, bus fires, etc. It goes on and on. Those people made it possible so that I could sit here on this forum and voice my opinion, right or wrong. At the end on the tour of the museum, you see the actual spot where Dr. King was shot. The actual place where he lay dead and bled on the balcony of the hotel room where he stayed. The feeling that came over me was overwhelming. He died so all people could be treated equally. All people.
There were many people who fought for civil rights just as much as Dr. King. I guess that's what so many people, black and white, feel today. All those people in the mall in Washington, D.C. They say it was something never seen before. Maybe. Maybe not. Today was a release to a lot of people. The breath that has been held since the 50's and 60's was released. Does it have anything to do with Obama's knowledge to be president? Of course not. But it has everything to do with equality and freedom. Things that make America what it is. Do I expect everyone to feel the way I do? No way. But I sure feel inspired and no one is going to change that. - Og
You too, Shines. I had to take a little trip backwards after our past posts. I had to remember that you're here to test me, and I almost failed.
You know, it's hard to explain to people about days like today when the person you're talking to doesn't quite understand where you're coming from. Or where you've been.
I took a trip to the Civil Rights Museum in Memphis. It was my wife's idea. I really didn't want to go. But I'm glad she dragged me down there. It's amazing to see what people, black and white, had to endure so that they could just use a public restroom or take a sip of water without being beaten so bad, their family members couldn't recognize them. High pressure hoses, police dogs, bus fires, etc. It goes on and on. Those people made it possible so that I could sit here on this forum and voice my opinion, right or wrong. At the end on the tour of the museum, you see the actual spot where Dr. King was shot. The actual place where he lay dead and bled on the balcony of the hotel room where he stayed. The feeling that came over me was overwhelming. He died so all people could be treated equally. All people.
There were many people who fought for civil rights just as much as Dr. King. I guess that's what so many people, black and white, feel today. All those people in the mall in Washington, D.C. They say it was something never seen before. Maybe. Maybe not. Today was a release to a lot of people. The breath that has been held since the 50's and 60's was released. Does it have anything to do with Obama's knowledge to be president? Of course not. But it has everything to do with equality and freedom. Things that make America what it is. Do I expect everyone to feel the way I do? No way. But I sure feel inspired and no one is going to change that. - Og
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Somebody answer this for me, why shouldn't gays be allowed to fight in the war? Why shouldn't gays be allowed to marry one another. I honestly don't think gay marriages are morally right but who is the government to tell someone how to live their lives? You get into the whole discrimination stuff.
on a side notes OG I do agree with most of what you say!
on a side notes OG I do agree with most of what you say!
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Somebody answer this for me, why shouldn't gays be allowed to fight in the war? Why shouldn't gays be allowed to marry one another. I honestly don't think gay marriages are morally right but who is the government to tell someone how to live their lives? You get into the whole discrimination stuff.
on a side notes OG I do agree with most of what you say!
on a side notes OG I do agree with most of what you say!
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Have you read this post?His skin color may be black BUT he isn't a "black" American.
His father was African, not American.
All the black folk were bamboozled by his skin color.
He was raised in Hawaii, by white folk, and Hawaiians don't consider themselves American, they're Hawaiian.
After all, he's half white and was raised by whites. Oh well, it's just another day in the neighborhood!
His father was African, not American.
All the black folk were bamboozled by his skin color.
He was raised in Hawaii, by white folk, and Hawaiians don't consider themselves American, they're Hawaiian.
After all, he's half white and was raised by whites. Oh well, it's just another day in the neighborhood!
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Why don't you come up with better posts? I am beginning to think entry level insults is the extent of your language abilitiess.
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I typed it, I didn't read it. Besides, everything was troof! If you are soooooo smart, Mr. Smartypants, prove any of those statements as false! If you're really smart, prove them all wrong. Go ahead! I triple dog dare ya.
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Last time I checked, Hawaii is a STATE in the United STATES of America. So exactly how are they not American?
Also "his father was African, not American." 'American' is not a race. That is like saying someone is English. Are they from England? Yes, but they can be black, white, latino, whatever. Just because someone is a different race, doesn't make them any less of an American. This is what America has always been. There are more than just whites in America, and they all deserve equal say.
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I'll take a stab, let's start with "Hawaiins aren't Americans"
Last time I checked, Hawaii is a STATE in the United STATES of America. So exactly how are they not American?
Also "his father was African, not American." 'American' is not a race. That is like saying someone is English. Are they from England? Yes, but they can be black, white, latino, whatever. Just because someone is a different race, doesn't make them any less of an American. This is what America has always been, incase you haven't opened your mind enough to realize. There are more than just whites in America, and they all deserve equal say.
"he's half white and was raised by whites"
So does that make him an "American" in your book?
Your whole post "bamboozles" me.
Last time I checked, Hawaii is a STATE in the United STATES of America. So exactly how are they not American?
Also "his father was African, not American." 'American' is not a race. That is like saying someone is English. Are they from England? Yes, but they can be black, white, latino, whatever. Just because someone is a different race, doesn't make them any less of an American. This is what America has always been, incase you haven't opened your mind enough to realize. There are more than just whites in America, and they all deserve equal say.
"he's half white and was raised by whites"
So does that make him an "American" in your book?
Your whole post "bamboozles" me.
America's "black" citizens do not share the same "black" lineage as Obama. I really didn't expect to have to explain this one. He played the race card well though.
Black folks have identified with Obama becasue he is black. The say MLK's dream has come true. I'm sure MLK was talking about the black lineage in America (according to the words in his speech) and not a Halfrican.
Racism itself claims that America has a race. Go to Korea and walk around Seoul and come back and ask me if anybody cares whether you are black or white - you are American.
The world is a small place and most countries don't care for Americans too much. They don't care the color of your skin.
Obama is an American. He's also the President. Even though I didn't vote for him, he has my support 100%. If my wife and I have to move overseas again, I will go as an ambassador of the USA, including you. It hurts sometimes that this is the case, but that's my duty as an American.
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I wasn't hijacking this one, it was a direct reply without the quote of someones post along the lines of "Obama's second move will be to allow gays to fight in war". And I was just commenting one what gives a straight guy more authority than a gay guy. Like I've said morally I don't think gay marriages are right, BUT the government has no room to step in and tell an individual how they should live their lives. Same with this obsurd smoking ban. The government already makes a killing off tobacco taxes why limit someone where they can smoke? I hate the smell of smoke and hate being around it, but a smoker should have the right to smoke where ever they want, as long as the privately owned property gives them permission too or they are in a smoking area at a food joint.
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I lived in Hawaii for 5 years, this statement is only partially true. Yes there are a few of 100% Hawaiians that believe they are Hawaiian and that Hawaii should be separate from the U.S., or just want land that belongs to them like the native Americans have it. Then on the other hand their are Hawaiians who are proud of their background, but are also equally proud to be a red, white, and blue American.
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I lived in Hawaii for 5 years, this statement is only partially true. Yes there are a few of 100% Hawaiians that believe they are Hawaiian and that Hawaii should be separate from the U.S., or just want land that belongs to them like the native Americans have it. Then on the other hand their are Hawaiians who are proud of their background, but are also equally proud to be a red, white, and blue American.
Most countries that I've been to see black Americans just as bad as white Americans. They don't see a difference. If you are in the Philippines, black or white, you are just an American. Some people will even call you a white American instead of just saying white and/or American! 
We in the USA use race as a class, but many countries don't. The President has to interact with all these other cultures and represents us all, as a whole.
Whether you voted for him or not, he is all you have. When he goes to another country, he speaks for us all. It doesn't matter the race. The USA is all races, not one.
Obama played the race card and got people to vote that would not have otherwise. I understand that is part of the "game" politicians play, but at the same time, he tells people we need to stop the games!!! WTF? His hypocrisy is why he didn't get my vote.
Even though I didn't vote based on race, I feel that millions did and those are the ones claiming some sort of victory. Black folk are happy to have a "black" president as if that is supposed to change the way they feel about themselves. Nobody can change the fact that slavery took place - in some countries, there are things much worse than slavery going on, and I been to a few of them!
Racism/prejudice/discrimination has always and will always exists as long as there is something that makes us different. After all, it's fuel for the fire to keep people moving. It motivates many and gives just cause for action to others. Politicians know this and so does the media. It seems that only those who fall victim to the stereotype hype are truly affected by it.