How to stop an addiction
#61
check out this:
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...t_2_1-5-09.php
- Dr. Leveque
But I am sure you know far more Shines.
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/j...t_2_1-5-09.php
- Dr. Leveque
But I am sure you know far more Shines.
I have been to more AA and NA meetings than I care to remember...
I ride with AA and NA members, and attend meetings with them...
You could say that I am a friend of Bill W...
You win MT... I don't know chit
#63
Take a look at it this way...let's say that I get up in themorning, and to get myself ready for the day ahaed, I take about 4-6 ozs of Jack or Jim or Seagrams VO---and, at lunch, I do the same---just to get me through the afternoon. Then, I get home, have another 4-6 ozs of liquor---and, at night, to help me relax, and go to sleep, I do the same. I can perform my job, and I do not bother others...but, am I actually living a healthy lifestyle, or am I dependent on something? Is my lifestyle actually healthy? That is my concern.
Isn't she doing the same thing?
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Isn't she doing the same thing?
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So how about now ? Harful ? Drinking water ?
I also advocate responsible smoking. However much I KNOW it does not effect my driving, I will not ever advocate it. Driving stoned can get you a dui just like booze. If you kill someone, they will use MJ as the reason, and that hurts the whole cause.
Let say someone drives her. So, wake and bake. Go to work folding envelopes for a paper company. Lunch break = more smoke. After work, smoke while you wait for your ride. Gets home, gets a call from boss, congratulating her on being the most dedicated, and folding the most envelopes (cuz she is baked, makes you concintrate). To celebrate, she goes into her room, packs a fatty, smokes, then passes out. Wake a few hours later with killer munchies. raids her kitchen. More smoke, back to bed.
Who'd she hurt ?
I can come up with em too !
Now, seriously, use common sense. Unless you have smoked pot for a long period in your life, you don't know how it makes you act. Memory tests have been done on people stoned, and the same people not stoned, no difference. SAT test have been done, no significant difference. IQ tests, lung capacity tests, etc etc etc all have been performed a LOT. Lung capacity will decrease when smoking. However, MJ smoke is the only smoke shown to clear up, after quitting. Thats right, your lungs will improve after you have quit. If your that concerned about your lungs, just eat brownies, take the pills, or the topical sprays. Many other ways to ingest THC.
#64
This use of grass seems to be way beyond recreational---from my point of view---she reminds me of several of my recovering friends who had stashes hid so that they could have access to them throughout the day.
Check some of the questions about addiction---one of them deals with drinking/using to deal with stress or to perform daily tasks.
If she is smoking this much, one has to admit that it is not really healthy for somebody.
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Check some of the questions about addiction---one of them deals with drinking/using to deal with stress or to perform daily tasks.
If she is smoking this much, one has to admit that it is not really healthy for somebody.
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- NCSU
Edited to add: Damn MT, GMTA!
Edited again to add: If we're talking about the smoke being unhealthy, sure, it is. So was that Krispy Kreme doughnut this morning, and that caffeine in that 64oz super slup I had for lunch.... lets not even talk about dinner!
Last edited by NCSU_05_FX4; 01-07-2009 at 06:21 PM.
#65
Yep, in the end, I would agree...
Tim C.
#66
How much do you think stands to be made if weed were legalized? It's already a HUGE cash crop, just all the cash goes underground.
- NCSU
#67
AA = nothing to do with pot
NA = you'll get laughed out of the room if you go in for pot. You can't be addicted to pot. It destroys zero lives. Much more affordable.
"you ever suck **** for weed man ? "
Think about how quickly someone degrades when hooked on heroin for a long time. Now think about someone who has smoked for 40-50 years. You can point the heroin addict out in a crowd. Pot user shows no signs. Do the same with booze, cigs, anything. Pot doesn't hurt anyone. Never has, never will.
So, by your credentials, I would say your as qualified to discuss this, as I am to discuss Advanced Theory of Tabla. ZERO
You have zero experience, zero creds, zero street knowledge. Face it, you don't know chit about this topic. You can still have your opinions, but you have yet to offer facts.
#68
2001 Total Deaths: 2,416,425
Cannabis Related Deaths: 138
So approximately 0.000057109% of total deaths.
They have everything broken down into different types and causes of deaths, but they leave out any categories in which there were no cannabis related fatalities.
Source: http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/...ot-related.htm
Cannabis Related Deaths: 138
So approximately 0.000057109% of total deaths.
They have everything broken down into different types and causes of deaths, but they leave out any categories in which there were no cannabis related fatalities.
Source: http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/...ot-related.htm
That data may be inaccurate. In most stated a driving under the influence of marijuana goes in the books as a DUI-D. A DUI-D has no record of what type of Drug was suspected or detected.
Not to mention, I imagine there are many unreported pot related deaths that are looked at as accidents. E.G. someone forgot to do something that resulted in the death of another.
#69
You have a minor in reefer madness theory. Congrats. Now, step into the real world.
AA = nothing to do with pot
NA = you'll get laughed out of the room if you go in for pot. You can't be addicted to pot. It destroys zero lives. Much more affordable.
"you ever suck **** for weed man ? "
Think about how quickly someone degrades when hooked on heroin for a long time. Now think about someone who has smoked for 40-50 years. You can point the heroin addict out in a crowd. Pot user shows no signs. Do the same with booze, cigs, anything. Pot doesn't hurt anyone. Never has, never will.
So, by your credentials, I would say your as qualified to discuss this, as I am to discuss Advanced Theory of Tabla. ZERO
You have zero experience, zero creds, zero street knowledge. Face it, you don't know chit about this topic. You can still have your opinions, but you have yet to offer facts.
AA = nothing to do with pot
NA = you'll get laughed out of the room if you go in for pot. You can't be addicted to pot. It destroys zero lives. Much more affordable.
"you ever suck **** for weed man ? "
Think about how quickly someone degrades when hooked on heroin for a long time. Now think about someone who has smoked for 40-50 years. You can point the heroin addict out in a crowd. Pot user shows no signs. Do the same with booze, cigs, anything. Pot doesn't hurt anyone. Never has, never will.
So, by your credentials, I would say your as qualified to discuss this, as I am to discuss Advanced Theory of Tabla. ZERO
You have zero experience, zero creds, zero street knowledge. Face it, you don't know chit about this topic. You can still have your opinions, but you have yet to offer facts.
#70
That data may be inaccurate. In most stated a driving under the influence of marijuana goes in the books as a DUI-D. A DUI-D has no record of what type of Drug was suspected or detected.
Not to mention, I imagine there are many unreported pot related deaths that are looked at as accidents. E.G. someone forgot to do something that resulted in the death of another.
Not to mention, I imagine there are many unreported pot related deaths that are looked at as accidents. E.G. someone forgot to do something that resulted in the death of another.
You foget to do something, results in a death. how is the MJ's fault ? Other then the old stereotype.... it has been shown to not hurt the memory as bad as you'd think. And if it does, its not like its bad ONLY while high.
Like I said, I would bet a HUGE percentage of "pot deaths" or deaths that were unavoidable while sober, but they happen to be stoned.
No negative side effects.
NO DEATHS.
#71
I'm not going to attack or defend anyone in this thread, but I found this online and thought it was interesting.
http://www.nida.nih.gov/marijBroch/M....html#longterm
Q: What are the long-term effects of marijuana use?
A: Findings so far show that regular use of marijuana or THC may play a role in some kinds of cancer and in problems with the respiratory and immune systems.
Cancer
It’s hard to know for sure whether marijuana use alone causes cancer, because many people who smoke marijuana also smoke cigarettes and use other drugs. But it is known that marijuana smoke contains some of the same, and sometimes even more, of the cancer-causing chemicals found in tobacco smoke. Studies show that someone who smokes five joints per day may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day (15) .
Lungs and airways
People who smoke marijuana often develop the same kinds of breathing problems that cigarette smokers have: coughing and wheezing. They tend to have more chest colds than nonusers. They are also at greater risk of getting lung infections like pneumonia.
Immune system
Our immune system protects the body from many agents that cause disease. It is not certain whether marijuana damages the immune system of people, but both animal and human studies have shown that marijuana impairs the ability of T-cells in the lungs' immune systemm to fight off some infections.
A: Findings so far show that regular use of marijuana or THC may play a role in some kinds of cancer and in problems with the respiratory and immune systems.
Cancer
It’s hard to know for sure whether marijuana use alone causes cancer, because many people who smoke marijuana also smoke cigarettes and use other drugs. But it is known that marijuana smoke contains some of the same, and sometimes even more, of the cancer-causing chemicals found in tobacco smoke. Studies show that someone who smokes five joints per day may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day (15) .
Lungs and airways
People who smoke marijuana often develop the same kinds of breathing problems that cigarette smokers have: coughing and wheezing. They tend to have more chest colds than nonusers. They are also at greater risk of getting lung infections like pneumonia.
Immune system
Our immune system protects the body from many agents that cause disease. It is not certain whether marijuana damages the immune system of people, but both animal and human studies have shown that marijuana impairs the ability of T-cells in the lungs' immune systemm to fight off some infections.
#72
I would venture to say, more of the "pot deaths" are deaths that woulda happened anyways, the guy just happened to be high.
You foget to do something, results in a death. how is the MJ's fault ? Other then the old stereotype.... it has been shown to not hurt the memory as bad as you'd think. And if it does, its not like its bad ONLY while high.
Like I said, I would bet a HUGE percentage of "pot deaths" or deaths that were unavoidable while sober, but they happen to be stoned.
No negative side effects.
NO DEATHS.
You foget to do something, results in a death. how is the MJ's fault ? Other then the old stereotype.... it has been shown to not hurt the memory as bad as you'd think. And if it does, its not like its bad ONLY while high.
Like I said, I would bet a HUGE percentage of "pot deaths" or deaths that were unavoidable while sober, but they happen to be stoned.
No negative side effects.
NO DEATHS.
MT, you're one crazy SOB that would die defending his weed causes. Weird chit IMO...
#73
A true friend will smoke a bong with the addict and talk about life as they listen to Bob Marley, that's what a true friend does.
Repeat after me:
Pot is good, Pot is great.
Alltogether now....
Repeat after me:
Pot is good, Pot is great.
Alltogether now....
#74
I'm not going to attack or defend anyone in this thread, but I found this online and thought it was interesting.
http://www.nida.nih.gov/marijBroch/M....html#longterm
http://www.nida.nih.gov/marijBroch/M....html#longterm
If a pothead reads the above, they dismiss it as anti-weed propaganda... They are the equivalent of todays Neo ****'s that claim the Holocaust was a hoax...
I laugh at JBMX for trying to reason with the pothead... Its an act of futility. And yet I **** away my time doing the same.
#75
So have you sat down with every adult friend you have that smokes cigs and give them the "another nail in the coffin" speech when they light up? The legality of any substance is not the topic of conversation in this thread... We've seen what happens when we talk about that
How much do you think stands to be made if weed were legalized? It's already a HUGE cash crop, just all the cash goes underground.
- NCSU
How much do you think stands to be made if weed were legalized? It's already a HUGE cash crop, just all the cash goes underground.
- NCSU
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