Would you support attacking Iran?
Originally Posted by 98Navi

Show me the button baby. show me the button. 100 million muslims for my 5 year old any day.

Yes I would support it, and I did not, and do not support the invasion of Iraq. Didn't we invade Iraq because of nebulous claims of WMD? Well Iran has claimed publically that they are actively working to have their own nuclear arsenal and the shrub does nothing? I mean WTF is that?
Originally Posted by kamikaze2b
Yes I would support it, and I did not, and do not support the invasion of Iraq. Didn't we invade Iraq because of nebulous claims of WMD? Well Iran has claimed publically that they are actively working to have their own nuclear arsenal and the shrub does nothing? I mean WTF is that?
Is your reasoning that because there were no found WMD's that we shouldn't have invaded Iraq?
Originally Posted by 98Lariet4x4
Is your reasoning that because there were no found WMD's that we shouldn't have invaded Iraq?
Now, Iran and North Korea are a different story, they DO pose a threat to us and we do nothing. Doesn't that seem odd?
Originally Posted by kamikaze2b
Yes I would support it, and I did not, and do not support the invasion of Iraq. Didn't we invade Iraq because of nebulous claims of WMD? Well Iran has claimed publically that they are actively working to have their own nuclear arsenal and the shrub does nothing? I mean WTF is that?
Originally Posted by kamikaze2b
Iraq had been beaten down through 10 years of sanctions and overflights, they were absolutely zero threat to us.
Here is the actual problem:
Neither Iraq nor Iran have been or ever will be a “direct” threat to us. Iran will NEVER launch a nuclear weapon at America regardless how many they may one day have. Iraq would have never used any of their WMD’S on America either.
What would have happen, or could happen as it relates to Iran, is the FACT they support terrorist and could easily hand a nuke off to some stupid nut case Muslim to hand carry to America and light it off in New York or some other big city…
People really need to get with the program, face reality, and stop listening to all the terrorist supporting liberals like Kerry and Kennedy…
Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
Some people will just never “get it”…
Here is the actual problem:
Neither Iraq nor Iran have been or ever will be a “direct” threat to us. Iran will NEVER launch a nuclear weapon at America regardless how many they may one day have. Iraq would have never used any of their WMD’S on America either.
What would have happen, or could happen as it relates to Iran, is the FACT they support terrorist and could easily hand a nuke off to some stupid nut case Muslim to hand carry to America and light it off in New York or some other big city…
People really need to get with the program, face reality, and stop listening to all the terrorist supporting liberals like Kerry and Kennedy…
Here is the actual problem:
Neither Iraq nor Iran have been or ever will be a “direct” threat to us. Iran will NEVER launch a nuclear weapon at America regardless how many they may one day have. Iraq would have never used any of their WMD’S on America either.
What would have happen, or could happen as it relates to Iran, is the FACT they support terrorist and could easily hand a nuke off to some stupid nut case Muslim to hand carry to America and light it off in New York or some other big city…
People really need to get with the program, face reality, and stop listening to all the terrorist supporting liberals like Kerry and Kennedy…
Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
You may be a bit confused on all the liberal propaganda in the past few years. Actually, the fact of the matter is even Saddam publicly claimed to have WMD’S…
Can you explain why when somebody criticizes the current adminstration or the war they are deemed "liberals?" I know plenty of Independents and Republicans that HATE the shrub and disagree with the war. And for the record I am a vet, unlike many flag waving war supporters I've taken the oath and served this country proudly.
Originally Posted by kamikaze2b
Excellent! I urge you and anybody else that strongly supports the Iraq war to go down to their nearest Army recruiter and enlist first thing Monday morning..................


Hello everyone,
I'm new here and often only read the threads, but as a 8 year member of the U.S. Air Force, I have a few things to get off my chest...please go to this article...
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49950
After reading that, can anyone justify letting Iran, or any terror supporting country to reach there nuclear ambitions? I am an American, I love this country. I have a 3 year old son and 2 month old daughter and I am fearful for their futures, as well as everyone who has children on this site. What we are currently doing in Iraq is serious buisness, no joke. However, make no mistake, I speak for quite a few when I say DO NOT ASK US TO COME HOME TILL THE JOB IS DONE! Do not believe the biased media, do not believe people like Ted Kennedy, John Kerry or Hillary Clinton, they don't care about us or support us. They are in politics for their own political greed.
1969MACH, I whole-heartedly agree with your views on biblical prophecy and I truly hope that everyone will research that, it is true. Russia will join Iran and China will follow as well as Seria. If you do believe in God then you must believe the prophecy. However, I do not agree that my President is a "madman" He is my Commander in Cheif and has displayed extreme bravery and is widely supported among us military folk.
I'm new here and often only read the threads, but as a 8 year member of the U.S. Air Force, I have a few things to get off my chest...please go to this article...
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49950
After reading that, can anyone justify letting Iran, or any terror supporting country to reach there nuclear ambitions? I am an American, I love this country. I have a 3 year old son and 2 month old daughter and I am fearful for their futures, as well as everyone who has children on this site. What we are currently doing in Iraq is serious buisness, no joke. However, make no mistake, I speak for quite a few when I say DO NOT ASK US TO COME HOME TILL THE JOB IS DONE! Do not believe the biased media, do not believe people like Ted Kennedy, John Kerry or Hillary Clinton, they don't care about us or support us. They are in politics for their own political greed.
1969MACH, I whole-heartedly agree with your views on biblical prophecy and I truly hope that everyone will research that, it is true. Russia will join Iran and China will follow as well as Seria. If you do believe in God then you must believe the prophecy. However, I do not agree that my President is a "madman" He is my Commander in Cheif and has displayed extreme bravery and is widely supported among us military folk.
I've found that it is useless to argue with people who are so convinced of their own rightousness that hear not the argument, but only their own words. 'Liberal Propagana' is not the same as 'Conservative Rhetoric'.
Propaganda: "1. capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having
jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2. the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose
of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3. ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further
one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public
action having such an effect "
Rhetoric: "1. the art of speaking or writing effectively: as a : the study of
principles and rules of composition formulated by critics of
ancient times b : the study of writing or speaking as a means of
communication or persuasion
2. a : skill in the effective use of speech b : a type or mode of
language or speech; also : insincere or grandiloquent language"
Therefore, propaganda is mostly falsehoods, whereas rhetoric is a skilled and effective communtication tool.
Propaganda: "1. capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having
jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2. the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose
of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3. ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further
one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public
action having such an effect "
Rhetoric: "1. the art of speaking or writing effectively: as a : the study of
principles and rules of composition formulated by critics of
ancient times b : the study of writing or speaking as a means of
communication or persuasion
2. a : skill in the effective use of speech b : a type or mode of
language or speech; also : insincere or grandiloquent language"
Therefore, propaganda is mostly falsehoods, whereas rhetoric is a skilled and effective communtication tool.
Originally Posted by ErnScott
I wondering...
is "liberal propagada" like "conservative rhetoric"?

is "liberal propagada" like "conservative rhetoric"?

Rhetoric – Noun: rhetoric (using language effectively to please or persuade)
Propaganda – Noun: propaganda (information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause)
Liberal propaganda, in the form they use it, is imaginary facts assembled together by people hallucinating under intense pressure to have their own way regardless how many innocent people are run over, injured, and/or killed.
Conservative rhetoric, in the form they use it, is well thought out, factual ideas, that they continue to repeat in the hopes that people who can think for themselves will make an “educated” decision and come to a properly thought out conclusion.
Do both groups have their own “agendas”? Absolutely, the difference being that conservatives truly believe, and rightfully so based on “facts”, that when people, on their own, make decision based off facts they make the correct decisions and thus the populace flourishes.
Liberals on the other hand, continually spew non-factual information and disguise it as facts. When it appears the populace begins to make an intelligent decision that liberals disagree with they begin to spread more non-factual information so as to make the populace feel ashamed at their decision and thus the populace is stifled because only the very few liberal propagandist know what’s “really” best for “the people”…
So no, liberal propaganda is not the same as conservative rhetoric. It likes the war on terror, you have EVIL and GOOD:
Liberal propaganda = EVIL
Conservative rhetoric = GOOD
And it makes perfect sense, all the liberal propaganda is designed to aid and comfort terrorist who are evil, well unless your talking to a liberal…


